YOU are responsible for your posts.
Really very simple isn't it? Doesn't matter whether so and so said something and you're responding to it, if it's out of bounds you're going to
get zinged, you may get away with it for a while, even a long while, but eventually bad posting habits will get you.
The T & C's, for the most part, can be boiled down to a couple of points. The first and foremost vaguely resembles the "golden rule": Post unto
others as you would have them post unto you. In other words, be polite. Attack the issue with politeness and passion, and all will be well. Attack
the poster(s) and eventually we'll get you.
The second point? Refer back to the first point.
There are, of course, other rules that apply to other portions of your membership here, but for the purposes of this thread...Politeness and passion
rule all.
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reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 03:32 PM by seagull
reply to post by jsobecky
You know as well as I do, Jso, that we're human...subject to the same foibles as everyone else. Yes, occaisionally political bias, or any other sort of bias will sneak through our objectivity...hey, it happens. I'm not saying that's a good thing, it isn't...but it happens.
But in the long run, and you've been here long enough to know this, it evens out. Someone get's away with calling someone something vile, they think they can always do it, well they can't, there's only so many of us. There are last I counted something around half a million posts on ATS/BTS, we can't possibly see everything that gets written. That's why we depend so very heavily on our fellow members to point these things out to us.
This specific episode that you refer to, I don't know the particulars. Was it intentional? I doubt it. I know you've had runins with various mod types, or they've had run ins with you, witch ever...lol, I doubt that played a part...I've had my share of runins with members since I took up this little jaunt into paradise, but I'll still moderate fairly, despite accusations to the contrary. My own personal integrity demands that of me, if nothing else...and trust me, given the character of the people I share modding duty with, anything less than my honest, and best, efforts would be unforgivable. They, I am positive, feel exactly the same.
I may, or may not have, allayed your concerns, Jsobecky; but this is my honest opinion, based on several months of observation and interaction with my fellow mods.
When a member's communications go un-acknowledged, his posts are deleted, and other more blatant offenses are allowed to remain, this can be interpreted as selective moderation.
You know as well as I do, Jso, that we're human...subject to the same foibles as everyone else. Yes, occaisionally political bias, or any other sort of bias will sneak through our objectivity...hey, it happens. I'm not saying that's a good thing, it isn't...but it happens.
But in the long run, and you've been here long enough to know this, it evens out. Someone get's away with calling someone something vile, they think they can always do it, well they can't, there's only so many of us. There are last I counted something around half a million posts on ATS/BTS, we can't possibly see everything that gets written. That's why we depend so very heavily on our fellow members to point these things out to us.
This specific episode that you refer to, I don't know the particulars. Was it intentional? I doubt it. I know you've had runins with various mod types, or they've had run ins with you, witch ever...lol, I doubt that played a part...I've had my share of runins with members since I took up this little jaunt into paradise, but I'll still moderate fairly, despite accusations to the contrary. My own personal integrity demands that of me, if nothing else...and trust me, given the character of the people I share modding duty with, anything less than my honest, and best, efforts would be unforgivable. They, I am positive, feel exactly the same.
I may, or may not have, allayed your concerns, Jsobecky; but this is my honest opinion, based on several months of observation and interaction with my fellow mods.
reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 05:47 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by seagull
Seagull, please check your u2u's. I just sent you one, outlining the details.
After you read it, I think you'll appreciate why I didn't lay out the details here.
Seagull, please check your u2u's. I just sent you one, outlining the details.
After you read it, I think you'll appreciate why I didn't lay out the details here.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 10:38 AM by ziggystar60
reply to post by Blogstalker
When a post is removed, the member automatically gets an U2U with an explanation and the name of the Mod who removed it. Then the member can contact this Mod and discuss the matter if necessary.
Edit to add that I know this because I have had post removed a couple of times. I behaved childish, so it was well deserved.
[edit on 29/12/08 by ziggystar60]
When a post is removed, the member automatically gets an U2U with an explanation and the name of the Mod who removed it. Then the member can contact this Mod and discuss the matter if necessary.
Edit to add that I know this because I have had post removed a couple of times. I behaved childish, so it was well deserved.
[edit on 29/12/08 by ziggystar60]
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 12:09 PM by intrepid
Originally posted by flyindevil
If WE are responsible for our posts, they should not have warnings/editing/deletion done to them. No rules on posting. Censorship is, well, retarded.
There is no censorship. Just changes made in posts that are not in accord with the T&C, which everyone agrees to when registering.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 12:51 PM by Mirthful Me
reply to post by flyindevil
You might want to explore the topic of ATS Censorship.
And then there is the issue of whether a privately owned board that has a right to manage it's content can engage in censorship.
You might want to explore the topic of ATS Censorship.
And then there is the issue of whether a privately owned board that has a right to manage it's content can engage in censorship.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 02:55 PM by Blogstalker
reply to post by ziggystar60
Now that you mention it I remember getting a u2u when I had a post deleted and points deducted (It was my first post and a one liner). But I don't remember getting a u2u when I had another post or two deleted..as to off topic or content....but can't be sure.
Let's hope I never find out.
Now that you mention it I remember getting a u2u when I had a post deleted and points deducted (It was my first post and a one liner). But I don't remember getting a u2u when I had another post or two deleted..as to off topic or content....but can't be sure.
Let's hope I never find out.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 03:16 PM by jimmyx
reply to post by Mirthful Me
actually, i have had a few warnings and i have u2u'd the moderator and they explained what infraction of the T&C's i had broken. since it is privately owned, this website needs some degree of oversite. reasonable people speak and type in a reasonable manner and this is what seperates ATS from all the other viscid verbal vomit out there. passions should be controlled, for rational discussions to take place. i guess i'm the only one that think the MOD's are doing the best they can to keep the integrity of this site intact.
actually, i have had a few warnings and i have u2u'd the moderator and they explained what infraction of the T&C's i had broken. since it is privately owned, this website needs some degree of oversite. reasonable people speak and type in a reasonable manner and this is what seperates ATS from all the other viscid verbal vomit out there. passions should be controlled, for rational discussions to take place. i guess i'm the only one that think the MOD's are doing the best they can to keep the integrity of this site intact.
reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 01:39 PM by SoulSista
reply to post by jimmyx
I agree- that as an overall, the Mods and overseer type folks here do a fantastic job. They have a huge job to do and are indeed only human, just as the rest of us are. Cut them a bit of slack folks.
Moderating boards is a tough job also, and most of the time, if not all the time, its gratis work, and generally unappreciated gratis work, at that. Then why do they do it? Because they beleive in what the board or website stands for, among other reasons.
Keep up the good work Mods and Super Mods! I for one am thankful for what you do and totally understand what chaos would ensue if you were not here to guide the forums in the right directions.
Thanks!
Happy New Years!
Soul Sista
I agree- that as an overall, the Mods and overseer type folks here do a fantastic job. They have a huge job to do and are indeed only human, just as the rest of us are. Cut them a bit of slack folks.
Moderating boards is a tough job also, and most of the time, if not all the time, its gratis work, and generally unappreciated gratis work, at that. Then why do they do it? Because they beleive in what the board or website stands for, among other reasons.
Keep up the good work Mods and Super Mods! I for one am thankful for what you do and totally understand what chaos would ensue if you were not here to guide the forums in the right directions.
Thanks!
Happy New Years!
Soul Sista
reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 01:45 PM by Blogstalker
reply to post by SoulSista
As for myself, I may have a few questions on how things work and may not agree with them all, but I do appreciate the work that is done by mods etc. There has to be guide lines or rules or there would be anarchy...can't have that on any board esp. a conspiracy site.
And I would gather that most of the work is volunteer..it is on most sites I am familiar with.
As for myself, I may have a few questions on how things work and may not agree with them all, but I do appreciate the work that is done by mods etc. There has to be guide lines or rules or there would be anarchy...can't have that on any board esp. a conspiracy site.
And I would gather that most of the work is volunteer..it is on most sites I am familiar with.
reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 01:57 PM by Resinveins
reply to post by JacKatMtn
I'm glad you said that and not me
Intrepid... certainly it is your own questionable opinion... and not a fact?
I'm glad you said that and not me
Intrepid... certainly it is your own questionable opinion... and not a fact?
