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Originally posted by purple girl
Why are Our rights being systematically eliminated.
Originally posted by SEEWHATUDO
And yet 19 men were able to hijack 4 American planes with box cutters and fly them into 2 skyscrapers, the Pentagon and kill over 3000 Americans.
Do you really need clarification on the above point?
Here is one that may be an interesting read for you:
Asian Political News, April 7, 2003
MOSCOW, April 6 Kyodo
A convoy of Russian Embassy diplomats was attacked while evacuating Baghdad on Sunday, Russia's Itar-Tass news agency reported.
The report quoted the Russian Foreign Ministry as saying that some diplomats were wounded in the attack.
Russian Ambassador Vladimir Titorenko was in the convoy, which was heading for Syria, Interfax news agency said.
An archived news report:
Another link if you are interested in more reading material:
Of course the level of support the Russians provided Iraq prior to and during the invasion cannot fully be known however there is enough evidence available to conclude that it happened. You can find more on your own if you wish.
In Iran, Russian defense and weaponry contracts with the Iranians are much more extensive than were in Iraq.
Also Russia is building the nuclear reactors for Iran under contact with the Iranians.
The sophisticated high tech weaponry Russia has provided Iran remains a mystery, however many believe that Iran has the very best air defense system the Russians could offer them now in place.
I could go on, however these things are for the most part common knowledge.
The question I believe we should be exploring: Is the Russian motive to sign contracts with nations considered enemies to the west strictly for financial gain, or is it something else?
I am sure the Russians would rather have its greatest adversary weakened by wars and conflicts, why wouldn't they?
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Originally posted by iskander
UM_Gazz, considering your news sources I have to ask, do you consider your self to be a right wing neo-conservative?
NO, and if you review my posting history you'll find that I have been accused of being a radical left wing nut "exploiting my staff position to push a left wing agenda"
Why does a person have to be either when expressing an opinion?
I am usually a liberal, or liberal in my thinking, but I tend to think of myself as a centrist. I will not be defined by any party line.
As for the sources there is evidence that could support these items, but why bother with a trivial debate when you are already assuming that I am a right wing neo-conservative?
Its funny actually, there was a time when a member all but called for my removal from the staff for posting "leftist propaganda" I suppose you think the same here, but from the opposite side right?
What does any of this have to do with the topic anyway?
I have theories, thoughts and opinions just like anyone else, and I will express them here within the boundaries of the terms and conditions of use, YOU are free to take from it what you wish, make of it what you will, question the material and even attack me for it.
Ultimately only time will prove it right or wrong.
Thank you for the interesting contributions to the conversation.
Originally posted by hinky
Насладил вашим русским
Russia has so many of it's internal problems. The USSR fell apart for a reason.
Russia is starting to do military actions it hasn't done in years, in part to bolster the morale of the Russian Military. Military equipment laying around, unused, also has a tendency to become defective or unusable due to lack of maintenance.
They are in no position for a full war, a regional war, yes, but full war, no. They would have to resort to the nuke option far sooner than the USA.
The cold war with Russia will not happen again. China is a far more powerful player and will not be Moscow's lap dog, again. This is great military gaming but the realities are wrong.
Do not believe everything you read or hear in the media about our military. The military leaders always cry "we need more" because it is money and power for them.
ry basis of military structure is to fight 2 full wars at one time. People forget this. If TSHTF in Korea, at this very moment, there is manpower to handle that regional conflict also.
America isn't weaken, the public is hearing the wrong information from the peacenicks and anti-Bush people of this generation.
People are being blasted everyday by 500 cable channels, the Internet, and printed media. Many of these organizations are really ran by just a few individuals who have their own agenda, not favoring America or the current President.
The economics of America swings from feast to famine, and we have been feasting for a long time.
A recession is overdue. Millions of people who should not have received home loans did, now banks have to do something about bad loans.
There are still help wanted signs posted with many jobs being unfilled.
Employment and growth doesn't happen in bad times. This is how capitalism works.
Originally posted by purple girl
that would explain this over the top reaction to everyting that happens in the MiddleEast- Why we are still stuck in a lossing military action.
but it does not explain why we are being assualted by our own gov't.
Why are Our rights being systematically eliminated. Unless Bushco works for or with the Russians. so regardless our biggest enemy lurks with in .
Although those who despise or distrust the UN will ahte this- We are now at a point were we have lost so much control over our gov't we MUST ask for help.
The public servants have taken contol and have denied US the right to Impeach a President and have worked in conjunction with this admin to subvert the rule of laws of this country. Treason.
Encourage the UN to levy charges of War Crimes against Bushco (public servants & profiteers alike). Once the head is off the beast we will be able to dispose of what remains of their reign. but until that happens we are caught in this web of deceite and conspiracy.
Originally posted by West Coast
Even then, no nation, or handful of them, are going to be very successful in attacking the richest most powerful nation on earth. The US has advantages over everyone else.
Oceans, an extremely advanced war fighting machine, a massively armed populous that is very patriotic, and let us not forget the American allies.
Originally posted by deltaboy
After all who started the Korean War for example...surely wasn't the U.S.
And still the war is not even over yet as of right now. What about North Vietnam's invasion of the South?
But then U.S.-Vietnam relations has been good since post-Vietnam war aka America's war by the Vietnamese, so you can take that off the list. Chuc ma may.
Originally posted by UM_Gazz
Interesting article, but once again I do not believe we need to fear a direct military confrontation with Russia, their hand in our downfall will be not much more than what they have been doing, and that is aiding our 'enemies' with technologies and weaponry,
also Russia and China have successfully delayed new UN sanctions to be imposed on Iran over the nuclear issue and you should expect them to continue to take actions like this aimed at stalling the Iranian nuclear issue ultimately raising the urgency and possibility of war.
They are helping us into a conflict with Iran. If we go to war with Iran, will China use this as an opportunity to invade and reclaim Taiwan?
Could Russia and/or China be helping terrorists who wish to attack the USA with weapons of mass destruction, or materials that could be used to build them?
They could be simply taking advantage of the current US administration's lust for war and control over the Middle Eastern oil rich territories. What will a war with Iran cost the USA on all levels while sustaining its military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as naval commitments to the defense of Taiwan if there are escalations in all of these regions?