reply to post by Tonka
Concerning this concept. As refering to this thread posted below the quote.
Its refreshing to talk with someone who actually knows something about a subject. Im fairly new to the forum thing and only stumbled on this
through a google. From what I've read of other posts\posters most of them dribble S@#T with little or no factual argument to back up claims.
Had one the other day telling me he worked on ship reactor plants, his level of basic grammar/sentence structure told me otherwise!
and replied to by this thread here.
With these threads in mind and in view also of your thread above on this board..I will clue you into the error or missing link of your thread on the
firing of torpedos from a submarine.
I know of four methods for firing torpedos from torpedo tubes. Not two as you posted. The two you posted are valid and I have worked on the water ram
system you describe as being the more common system today.
You seem to put a very high value on academic excellence and research ..sources. No problem here. It is just that much in this field (submarines) is
not for public consumption. Nor found on the web....and for good reason.
Since you are wont to take this tack on academic excellence and research you will have no problem finding out or discovering the other two methods.
I look foreward to you posting your research results and sources.
Concerning nuclear work. I will tell you since you obviously do not know..one of the chief characteristics of being able to do or perform nuclear work
is not high academic excellence...it is being able to follow instructions...to the letter. This is a dicipline. The other characteristic not told to
the public and which you will not find in textbooks and reserach, is a certain level of disposability and expendability. It is not fashionable to
speak of these things...no matter how true. Translate that PC.
If you have ever had to work a job in a area of both high radiation and contamination ..you will know of what I speak. You follow a strict protocol
here...both for your safety and those around you. Getting crapped out and haveing to be scrubbed or your outer skin level removed if it is to high a
level of contamination is not pleasant..nor internal contamination.
YOu learn instinctively to watch the radiological technicians taking readings/maps daily, doing an exercise called "walknig the dog." They will
put thier probe on a length of string or a pole so that they can take readings comfortably and in certain areas at a distance from the
radiated/contaminated sources. You watch carefully for these areas in which they take extensive readings. Meaning be much more careful if you must
work or transit through these areas. This means dicipline/awareness.
You pay attention..dicipline in frisking out of an area. Also your personal dosimetry(electronic nowdays) and your TLD (Thermo illuminesent
dosimetry)Usually nothing happens..all proceeds normally. It is the abnormal frisks which spook you and raise your alarm level as well as others.
Experience a few of these...whether you yourself or someone you know. It is what we call a pucker factor. After all we dont want to be carrying this
"crap" home to our familys. You don't learn this so intimately and personally in research or through academia.
You and others would be surprised to know what ordianry items would set off a frisker...such as bannanas. Yes bannanas from the stores. Other items
of daily use too.
I know people with high academic excellence. I would not trust them with my life and safety...most of them that is. Being able to accomplish a task is
not the same as researching it or academia. I have had many opportunitys to have this fact verified to my satisfaction both in nuclear and non nuclear
work. Remember ..school is out here. Give some of these academics and researchers a wrench and many will get you killed or maimed for life on these
I am selective about the person/persons working with me on certain hazardous jobs. One would be foolish not to be selective. Academics and research
alone is not getting it here. I have found it sometimes necessary to enforce this on the jobs I work. I have told the boss that I dont want so and so
working with me..period.
Remember too..in the field of pilots..military pilots..they are of sorts academics..men and women of letters. Someone makes the decision as to when,
how, and where these people are expendable and disposable. After all..when delivering a nuclear device..how expendable and disposable is this person
of letters..especially once the device is delivered. This decision, expendabilty and disposability, has been made by someone since the founding of
this nation. At that moment school is out. For those who must make these expendable/disposable decisions..guess what Tonka...school too is out.
How about a naval officer...expendable and disposable?? How about a whole ship or aircraft carrier?? Submarine???
There are people out here reading this and other threads..who know this is not just an academic exercise or research...when it comes to the rubber
meeting the road. It is quite real.
I was at one time a member of a towed field artillery unit. 155mm towed artillery...on a gun crew. One day out on the range we had loaded the howitzer
and were waiting for the command to fire. To our surprise the fire mission was called off. We were instructed to unprime the lock , open the breech
remove the powder charge, (powder bags) deposit this charge in the powder pit, lower the gun and then punch the shell out of the barrel.
Guess what Tonka...school is out here!!
Talk about a conversation breaking right down. Everyone was like..speechless. We all knew the horror stories of accidents which had happened. Albeit
..they were rare but they were also recorded as having occured. I was the guy who had installed the point detonation fuse in the 155mm shell and
tightened it up. None of us had ever performed this operation. Up to that very moment we had always fired the projectile down range.
We assembled the cleaing rod and installed the cone on the end lowered the barrel and tapped the round out of the barrel onto the loading tray.
Everyone breathed a sigh of relief. No one was thinking about school, research or adacemia here. I can gaurantee you that for a fact. Most of us were
thinking of going to relieve ourselves and shortly did so.
None of these tales makes me or anyone involved better than another person. Hardly. It makes us very different in that we know when school and
academia is out and the rubber meets the road.
Those on this board and reading this thread who have, in the course of thier lives, found themselves in similar situations know instinctively of what
Academia and research is just academia and research. It is nice but it is not where the rubber meets the road.
I felt that you and others here would like to know this. To those of you who do instinctively know.....I salute you!!
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