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reply posted on 7-9-2007 @ 03:37 AM by neformore
Originally posted by Spoontoad
I just heard on, um, FOX that 3 Russian Bombers were intercepted this morning. The report said these bombers were carrying nuclear missles, and this is the 3rd time since July Russian Bombers carrying Nuclear missles had been intercepted in International waters.

Fox Article This article doesnt mentiona anything about the nuclear missles, so I'm woindering how much of truth there is to that portion.

And someone asked about the Sept 14th and none of our fighters & bombers in the air that day. I personally find that very odd as well, but it's only limited to the USAF from what I've read.


It didn't say they were carrying nuclear missiles. It said they were capable of carrying nuclear missiles.

The other thing the press seems incapable of is distinguishing between the ELINT and reconaissance versions of the TU-95 Bear , and the actual Bomber version, although the RAF press release said they were Bear-H's.

The other thing I keep stressing is that this kind of thing used to happen all the time, and that the US carries out its own version of such flights on a routine basis - for some reason this never gets mentioned.


reply posted on 9-9-2007 @ 06:02 AM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Kronik98



There seems to of been some miscommunication about the number. I am kind of worried that it may of originally been Six, but now it is Five. Which means well...



probably something bad.

[edit on 9/9/07 by MikeboydUS]



reply posted on 10-9-2007 @ 07:56 AM by rxnnxs
www.halturnershow.com...

Reports that five (later confirmed to be six) nuclear warheads were "accidentally" shipped by B-52 from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana are false. It was no mistake; it was a criminal conspiracy to launch nuclear terrorist attacks against U.S. cities!

Military investigators have confirmed to The Hal Turner Show that President Bush's personal Presidential authorization code authorized the removal of six 5 - 150 kiloton nuclear warheads from their secure nuclear storage safes.

Those Investigators also confirmed that the cruise missiles in which those warheads were placed, were mounted on the wings of the B-52 and not placed in the belly of the plane with other missiles headed for decommissioning.

When those nuclear cruise missiles arrived at Barksdale AFB, Investigators say plans were made to move those warheads off the base, allowing them to be used for what was to be a massive, nuclear "terrorist" strike against U.S. cities. They speculate the attacks would have been blamed on Al-Qaida and used as an excuse to impose Martial Law in the U.S...


so i wasn't that false with my assumption that a bomb could have been dropped or misused to detonate in NY!
here we go!
the presidents code was used.. ahem, good morning New York!

if they even are not sure about the amount of bombs they were transporting they might as well let one bomb get away without notice..
and that some of the military personel has to face consequences is because they let it leak to the press.. not because they lost track. taht was on purpose!!!

[edit on 10/9/2007 by rxnnxs]


reply posted on 10-9-2007 @ 01:13 PM by DarrylGalasso
First, I want to say this. I have never worked with nuclear devices in the military but I did work on planes that flew over the ocean and sent secret coded messages to the subs that carry them. When one of our c-130q aircraft were what we referred to as locked and loaded, there would then be a contingent of 6 armed marines surrounding the aircraft and it roped off, no-one was allowed near the aircraft until it was ready to depart and then only the flight crew. I once had to take a can of hydraulic fluid to the aircraft and was threatened with being shot if I approached any closer. (the aircraft has 2 trailing wire systems that operate hydraulically and require 6 back-up cans on board). So I do know this, when you are dealing with sensitive materials in the military there is a boatload of precautions and protocols that are very strictly followed. Also there are a few points not noted here. 1) there is a pre-flight inspection done by the pilot before take-off as well as a turnaround and pre-flight inspection done by the plane captain. There are red flagged safety pins that are inserted into the missile racks to prevent accidentally dropping one of the warheads while the plane is on deck. These are removed during the start-up by the plane captain that is launching the aircraft.
There had to be at least the following people involved DIRECTLY:

Operations officer- he sets the flight plans and schedules

Maintenance officer- he is responsible for anything maintenance related such as payloads and armament being loaded or installed on the craft.

Maintenance chief (enlisted) he is the head enlisted man in the maintenance department and assigns all the work.
ordinance shop leading petty officer, division officer and division chief (I was Navy so some titles in different branches may differ)- they are responsible for the work and assignment and completion of the maintenance assigned to their division.

Ordnance man- he is the one who actually loads the weapon

Collateral Duty Inspector- He has to inspect and sign off on any maintenance task preformed in his shop/shift

QAR- Quality assurance representative will have to also inspect the maintenance and give approval.

Plane Captain- he is responsible for his assigned aircraft, he does pre and post flight inspections, daily inspections turnaround inspections launches the aircraft and is responsible for the aircraft's general well being when it is not in service.

Pilot- he and his crew does a preflight inspection as well as inspects ALL LIVE AMMUNITION.

Final Checker- He is the last set of eyes that inspects an aircraft as it is departing, typically it is at the end of a taxiway and he goes over everything one last time (I have had this assignment numerous times and even received a NAM for it once) If the aircraft is carrying live ammunition this is where the safety pins are removed from the pods.

Now after seeing this,

can you even say the word accident?


reply posted on 10-9-2007 @ 03:28 PM by neverknwo
Nuclear coded communication messages sent by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to U.S. Air Force strategic nuclear forces.


International radio operators picked up large numbers of coded Air Force communications being sent around the world on June 26 that indicated some type of military activity was about to take place.
A U.S. military official said the radio traffic was monitored from the Air Force Global High Frequency System (GHFS) that some observers regarded as "extraordinary" because of the unprecedented length of messages. They were sent to Air Force commanders at Andrews Air Force Base; Wideawake Airfield on Ascension Island; Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska; Andersen Air Force Base, Guam; Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii; Lajes Field in the Azores; Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska; Salinas Air Base, Puerto Rico; Thule Air Base, Greenland; and Yokota Air Base, Japan. All are sites of GHFS ground stations.
The messages appeared to be emergency action messages, coded communications sent by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to U.S. Air Force strategic nuclear forces.
The messages sent June 26 included 174 characters, much longer than normal 30-character messages, and amateur radio monitors say they have not seen the size of this message since the 1991 Persian Gulf War.


-------------- Original message --------------

From: seanosborne-at-net

Last night there was extraordinary radio traffic on the GHFS (the Air Force Global HF System). The freqs used for this traffic and the "echo" repeats were: 4724, 8992, 11175 and 15016 kHz. The net for these freqs is fixed to the following Air Force Bases: Andrews, Ascension, Elmendorf, Anderson (Guam), Hickam, Lejes, Offutt, Salinas, Thule, Yokota plus a couple of formerly aliased stations (like Diego Garcia and Cyprus). The these freqs were humming with extremely large EAMs (Emergency Action Messages) which are issued by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to USAF strategic nuclear forces.
A normal EAM consists of phonetic alpha-numeric string which is the message preamble and is repeated 3 times. The preamble is followed by the message text, which normally can be up to 30 alpha-numerica characters. Last nights messages were 174 characters long. According to the amatuer radio network which has followed the GHFS broadcasts for decades, a message of this size has not been copied on the system since the Gulf War of 1991.

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[edit on 10-9-2007 by neverknwo]
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