Report: Air Force lost track of nuclear missiles

Originally posted by Spoontoad
I just heard on, um, FOX that 3 Russian Bombers were intercepted this morning. The report said these bombers were carrying nuclear missles, and this is the 3rd time since July Russian Bombers carrying Nuclear missles had been intercepted in International waters.

Fox Article This article doesnt mentiona anything about the nuclear missles, so I'm woindering how much of truth there is to that portion.

And someone asked about the Sept 14th and none of our fighters & bombers in the air that day. I personally find that very odd as well, but it's only limited to the USAF from what I've read.

It didn't say they were carrying nuclear missiles. It said they were capable of carrying nuclear missiles.

The other thing the press seems incapable of is distinguishing between the ELINT and reconaissance versions of the TU-95 Bear , and the actual Bomber version, although the RAF press release said they were Bear-H's.

The other thing I keep stressing is that this kind of thing used to happen all the time, and that the US carries out its own version of such flights on a routine basis - for some reason this never gets mentioned.

Originally posted by Xtrozero
You don't mistakenly load nukes on the wing of a B-52. Any movement of nukes is at the highest level and equal to the movement of the President.

Exactly! This 'mistakenly loaded nukes' stuff is a load of crap! Are you aware that Barksdale Air Force Base is used for logistics and as a jumping off point for Middle East operations..?

And that includes IRAN! So is this part of the preparations for an impending nuke strike on Iran?

Another big question is how does anyone know this happened? Normally nothing is released until after the safety investigation board is complete, and that is with just normal situations.

Originally posted by Dave Rabbit

Caught by who? The press? Where does the press come into the picture for the story to be splashed all over the news?

I hate to disillusion you my brother..... but the military has more LEAKS than carter has little liver pills.

That is also why it is tactically important for the military to have artificial leaks and diversionary leaks cooked up in house. If one is chasing the fox, and the fox is out there, it is heck when the hounds wind up in a Rose Garden that has been sprayed with 'essence of fox".

Originally posted by mikesingh

Originally posted by Xtrozero
You don't mistakenly load nukes on the wing of a B-52. Any movement of nukes is at the highest level and equal to the movement of the President.

Exactly! This 'mistakenly loaded nukes' stuff is a load of crap! Are you aware that Barksdale Air Force Base is used for logistics and as a jumping off point for Middle East operations..?

And that includes IRAN! So is this part of the preparations for an impending nuke strike on Iran?

I'll say it for the upteenth time. Barksdale does not need any extra nukes.

There are enough Nuclear Warheads on that base to Kill the Planet. Thats not an exaggeration.

This is truly a baffling story...

A few minutes ago, someone posted a thread (it's now trashed) where it was asserted the "presidential codes" were needed to command the movement of these nukes.

The subject of the 'codes' reminded me of these incidents:

Who might have these codes?

Damn odd.

[edit on 8-9-2007 by loam]

I can't remember where at the moment, but I saw mention that the first reports of that story had the bomber going out with 6 nukes, but the story quickly changed to 5. Has any one else heard this, or am I a subject of misinfo??

reply to post by Kronik98


There seems to of been some miscommunication about the number. I am kind of worried that it may of originally been Six, but now it is Five. Which means well...



probably something bad.

[edit on 9/9/07 by MikeboydUS]

This story keeps getting stranger by the day. Something is def. up. I never even though about how nuke movement is extremely right and what "problems" it might have take to accidentally move some of them. Hell, what if it was an honest mistake? Imagine all that could have gotten lost and not accounted for.

Just for someone who asked before.

The date August 30th is of importance to this:

"1963 - Hotline between U.S. and Soviet leaders goes into operation."

So there is a clear message on the hotline to the entire world.

And as for the modified nose on the B-52, more aerodynamic for long range high altitude flights, much more fuel efficient as well.

Big deal so they may have lost a nuclear missle, I loose my TV remote every day. Maybe they are in the same place? Does the Air Force have a huge couch in the hanger where the B52 is loaded?

I hate to do this but.....

The same day a Weapon Specialist from fort Bliss, right next to white sands missle test range, ran into the desert and died of a single gunshot to the head, after he buried his amunition in the desert and left a note, "I have to take care of something, I wont be coming back"

Also An Airforce Captain who last was heard from on Aug 30 was found dead in his car in the Washington Cascades.

1 billion dollars of puts placed on NYSE on Aug 30

I figure this whole b52/nuke thing was the foiling of 9/11 part 2, The Road To Iran.

Originally posted by Redge777
I hate to do this but.....

The same day a Weapon Specialist from fort Bliss, right next to white sands missle test range, ran into the desert and died of a single gunshot to the head, after he buried his amunition in the desert and left a note, "I have to take care of something, I wont be coming back"

Also An Airforce Captain who last was heard from on Aug 30 was found dead in his car in the Washington Cascades.

1 billion dollars of puts placed on NYSE on Aug 30

I figure this whole b52/nuke thing was the foiling of 9/11 part 2, The Road To Iran.

Do you have any sources for confirmation purposes in regards to the two military personnel?

www.halturnershow.com...

Reports that five (later confirmed to be six) nuclear warheads were "accidentally" shipped by B-52 from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana are false. It was no mistake; it was a criminal conspiracy to launch nuclear terrorist attacks against U.S. cities!

Military investigators have confirmed to The Hal Turner Show that President Bush's personal Presidential authorization code authorized the removal of six 5 - 150 kiloton nuclear warheads from their secure nuclear storage safes.

Those Investigators also confirmed that the cruise missiles in which those warheads were placed, were mounted on the wings of the B-52 and not placed in the belly of the plane with other missiles headed for decommissioning.

When those nuclear cruise missiles arrived at Barksdale AFB, Investigators say plans were made to move those warheads off the base, allowing them to be used for what was to be a massive, nuclear "terrorist" strike against U.S. cities. They speculate the attacks would have been blamed on Al-Qaida and used as an excuse to impose Martial Law in the U.S...

so i wasn't that false with my assumption that a bomb could have been dropped or misused to detonate in NY!
here we go!
the presidents code was used.. ahem, good morning New York!

if they even are not sure about the amount of bombs they were transporting they might as well let one bomb get away without notice..
and that some of the military personel has to face consequences is because they let it leak to the press.. not because they lost track. taht was on purpose!!!

[edit on 10/9/2007 by rxnnxs]

While I must say it is a LITTLE bizarre that there has been speculation that multiple nukes will be detonated across the US (I think I heard the number was 6 or seven) and the number of nukes on the b52 just happened to be the same, I don't see how they could EVER be used to attack US soil. Or at least i would like to hope so.

Interesting link to the Hal Turner show. Is this guy credible?

I found his "Israel is killing all of the bees" story to be a BIT far fetched.

First, I want to say this. I have never worked with nuclear devices in the military but I did work on planes that flew over the ocean and sent secret coded messages to the subs that carry them. When one of our c-130q aircraft were what we referred to as locked and loaded, there would then be a contingent of 6 armed marines surrounding the aircraft and it roped off, no-one was allowed near the aircraft until it was ready to depart and then only the flight crew. I once had to take a can of hydraulic fluid to the aircraft and was threatened with being shot if I approached any closer. (the aircraft has 2 trailing wire systems that operate hydraulically and require 6 back-up cans on board). So I do know this, when you are dealing with sensitive materials in the military there is a boatload of precautions and protocols that are very strictly followed. Also there are a few points not noted here. 1) there is a pre-flight inspection done by the pilot before take-off as well as a turnaround and pre-flight inspection done by the plane captain. There are red flagged safety pins that are inserted into the missile racks to prevent accidentally dropping one of the warheads while the plane is on deck. These are removed during the start-up by the plane captain that is launching the aircraft.
There had to be at least the following people involved DIRECTLY:

Operations officer- he sets the flight plans and schedules

Maintenance officer- he is responsible for anything maintenance related such as payloads and armament being loaded or installed on the craft.

Maintenance chief (enlisted) he is the head enlisted man in the maintenance department and assigns all the work.
ordinance shop leading petty officer, division officer and division chief (I was Navy so some titles in different branches may differ)- they are responsible for the work and assignment and completion of the maintenance assigned to their division.

Ordnance man- he is the one who actually loads the weapon

Collateral Duty Inspector- He has to inspect and sign off on any maintenance task preformed in his shop/shift

QAR- Quality assurance representative will have to also inspect the maintenance and give approval.

Plane Captain- he is responsible for his assigned aircraft, he does pre and post flight inspections, daily inspections turnaround inspections launches the aircraft and is responsible for the aircraft's general well being when it is not in service.

Pilot- he and his crew does a preflight inspection as well as inspects ALL LIVE AMMUNITION.

Final Checker- He is the last set of eyes that inspects an aircraft as it is departing, typically it is at the end of a taxiway and he goes over everything one last time (I have had this assignment numerous times and even received a NAM for it once) If the aircraft is carrying live ammunition this is where the safety pins are removed from the pods.

Now after seeing this,

can you even say the word accident?

Well I have a thought; Sept 14 no jets in the air right? What if thats the new 911? It makes sense cause when the the nuke or nukes go off, all electronics are dead within hundreds of miles of denotation. That would mean any aircraft would come down.

Chatter about an "incident" on West Coast at all time high
Is this event connected with the 'Red Dragon Army exercise' or the 'Noble Resolve' exercise
Chatter picked up by WMR's sources in the nation's capital and in California point to unusual events that could be a prelude to a 9/11-like false flag "incident" during the Labor Day weekend, possibly one focused on the San Francisco Bay Area.

www.liveleak.com...

Nuclear coded communication messages sent by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to U.S. Air Force strategic nuclear forces.


International radio operators picked up large numbers of coded Air Force communications being sent around the world on June 26 that indicated some type of military activity was about to take place.
A U.S. military official said the radio traffic was monitored from the Air Force Global High Frequency System (GHFS) that some observers regarded as "extraordinary" because of the unprecedented length of messages. They were sent to Air Force commanders at Andrews Air Force Base; Wideawake Airfield on Ascension Island; Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska; Andersen Air Force Base, Guam; Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii; Lajes Field in the Azores; Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska; Salinas Air Base, Puerto Rico; Thule Air Base, Greenland; and Yokota Air Base, Japan. All are sites of GHFS ground stations.
The messages appeared to be emergency action messages, coded communications sent by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to U.S. Air Force strategic nuclear forces.
The messages sent June 26 included 174 characters, much longer than normal 30-character messages, and amateur radio monitors say they have not seen the size of this message since the 1991 Persian Gulf War.


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From: seanosborne-at-net

Last night there was extraordinary radio traffic on the GHFS (the Air Force Global HF System). The freqs used for this traffic and the "echo" repeats were: 4724, 8992, 11175 and 15016 kHz. The net for these freqs is fixed to the following Air Force Bases: Andrews, Ascension, Elmendorf, Anderson (Guam), Hickam, Lejes, Offutt, Salinas, Thule, Yokota plus a couple of formerly aliased stations (like Diego Garcia and Cyprus). The these freqs were humming with extremely large EAMs (Emergency Action Messages) which are issued by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to USAF strategic nuclear forces.
A normal EAM consists of phonetic alpha-numeric string which is the message preamble and is repeated 3 times. The preamble is followed by the message text, which normally can be up to 30 alpha-numerica characters. Last nights messages were 174 characters long. According to the amatuer radio network which has followed the GHFS broadcasts for decades, a message of this size has not been copied on the system since the Gulf War of 1991.

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US ran nuclear weapons exercises the week before Bush-Putin summit

Shortly before the so-called 'Lobster Summit' between President George W. Bush and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin in Kennebunkport, Maine, the United States appears to have carried out a significant nuclear weapons exercise, according to a report in Friday's Washington Times.
"International radio operators picked up large numbers of coded Air Force communications being sent around the world on June 26 that indicated some type of military activity was about to take place," writes Bill Gertz in his weekly "Inside The Ring" column.
Gertz suggests that the transmissions, which he called 'extraordinary,' were related to US nuclear forces.
"A U.S. military official said the radio traffic was monitored from the Air Force Global High Frequency System (GHFS) that some observers regarded as 'extraordinary' because of the unprecedented length of messages," he writes. "The messages appeared to be emergency action messages, coded communications sent by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to U.S. Air Force strategic nuclear forces."
An Air Force spokesman said the operation was 'routine.'

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