I have a great way to get there attention..... a mass streaking party and we run across the border!!!! then the guards will be blinded by the mass censorship and wont be able to fire their guns.... or we could just go petition congress and become a special interest group this way we'll manipulate the government and no more conspiracies.

Wow... that's pretty interesting.

So now we've become prisoners in our own nation?

wow this is just the beginning of what is to come i believe. its pretty shocking to say the least. but what i am more concerned with is why(?) or what would cause the americans to "flee". now that alone is a pretty harsh use of words. so that makes me wonder what they have planned that would cause americans to flee. a draft? a war on US ground? financial collapse? invasion? biochem weapons deployed? etc...

any thoughts?

so you guys think us citizens should be able to cross the border to canada illegally then? wouldn't the canadians just be using the same tactics the us uses at its southern borders?

I don't know how most Americans stand on the issue of our borders, but my father is all for "if you shoot a couple each day, I guarantee they will stop coming over!" A little harsh yes but we are in a time of war. Can they not use the same tech and security at our borders as they do in Groom lake, Nevada?

I agree with the Pieman. Why should Canada be prevented from having the same laws as the US? What, an American citizens life is somehow worth more than a Mexicans?

But apart from that, why would Americans be running over the border? The US is not a 3rd world country. People should not want to leave it, unless something is happening that affects their wellbeing.

I am outraged that illegals are coming across our border in droves and our gov't is basically turning a blind eye. But God forbid we should need to flee across the border and we'll be shot. Nice.

just a few of the arguable reasons why we should be concerned about immigration into our country from Mexico:

- lower rates of vaccination and higher rates of disease in immigrant population

- drive wages down

- failure to adopt or assimilate our culture and language

IMHO none of those reasons would aply to U.S. citizens immigrating to Mexico or Canada so why shoot us and not them - I mean if you have to shoot someone at all!

Is there any direct evidence of this being recommended by Gonzales? Or is this a result of 'he said she said'?

Im sticking with my weapon.... "Operation Streak".

[edit on 20-8-2007 by KezigluBey]

As Stated By Pieman:

so you guys think us citizens should be able to cross the border to canada illegally then? wouldn't the canadians just be using the same tactics the us uses at its southern borders?

Nope I dont think that the US guards at the Southern Border should have the right to kill on sight, for people that are fleeing their country for their own and their families well being. Now, if they are fleeing on the basis of california having nice beaches and pretty girls is another story, but even if that is the case, they should not be murdered for it. And the same right would extend to canadians who choose flee. And lastly the right should also be extended to american fleeing northern or southern.

So all in all, the northern borders, the southern borders and the land in between should all be free to flee if need be into the others country, now of course there will consequences the flee-ers will have to abide by but IMO the consequences should not be immediate death.

I think you guys are missing the point here. Firstly, we don't shoot illegal immigrants on site, we generally round them up and send them back if we catch them.

Secondly, as an American citizen you should have the right to decide to leave your country without the fear of retaliation from the government unless you are a military deserter or other type of "spoken for" person.

Thirdly, Canada has a long history of extradition of US criminals and suspects etc so this represents a drastic change in policy.

Fourthly, the US/Canadian border is about as open as it gets, there's never really been an issue with citizens of either country going either direction for any reason.

You really need to ask yourself, why would they need to pass a law like this?

If they Canadians are ill equipped to enforce a shoot on site policy, who do you think they'd outsource it to?

All I can picture is armed Blackwater goons shooting Americans as they try to cross over into Canada to escape the coming collapse of the country under our current "regime". U.S. or Canadian troops would never fire on innocent American citizens trying to escape to safety, but hired mercs could operate almost outside of the law.

I am telling you, when the big roundups start it will not be police or military at the other end of the rifle barrells, it will be hired help paid by the government to imprison and murder it's own citizens. Ever heard of some of the Katrina stories in regards to Blackwater? Read up, if you are an American it should terrify you.