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can someone explain the good and bad aliens

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posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 10:15 AM
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Look, if there are bad aliens then maybe it all goes back to their childhood, you know, bad influences, hanging about on street corners, playing pool, hangong out with those pesky reptilians from the bad neighbourhood, all of those things would turn any self respecting alien bad wouldnt they?

Anal probing though ? Makes my haemorhoids tingle




posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 11:22 AM
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Saying there are good and bad Aliens is like saying there
are good and bad animals. However animals we can research but
aliens we can't.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 11:57 AM
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It was earlier mentioned that the Draconians are Satanic; rather, it's Satan who is a Draconian (per Stuart Swerdlow).



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 12:00 PM
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It was earlier mentioned that the Draconians are Satanic; rather, it's Satan who is a Draconian (per Stuart Swerdlow).

As near as I can tell, the "greys" really are robots in the sense that they do not think for themselves, are controlled centrally, exist to perform menial tasks, etc. However, they are not mechanical "droids" but rather genetically engineered biological entities.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 12:08 PM
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I haven't read the thread at all, I just wanted to explain a thing.

There is no 'good' and 'bad', there are only popular opinions. If there in fact are aliens tooting around our atmosphere, watching us destroy our world with our gasoline products, would you say that they're 'bad' because they're not sharing their technology with us, for not saving people who jump off buildings, for not putting out forest fires? I wouldn't.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 12:34 PM
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I love how some people talk with authority on how aliens really are and their intentions as if they just got back from having a beer with them at the corner pub. LOL! Too funny!



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 12:59 PM
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Hi Airborne82ndscout,


Originally posted by airborne82ndscout
do i undersand that the grays and reptiles are bad and the pleadians and nordics are good???



Originally posted by SuicideVirus
Hah! If it was only that simple! As it turns out, they're all evil. Greys are actually probably the least evil of them all, because they're basically like robots or insects and completely amoral. Of course, the Lizards are evil, but they don't actually have anything against us, personally. On the other hand, Plejeaidians and the Nordics are a bunch of liars. They say they want to help mankind, but it's all just a load of lies intended to get us to drop our guard. Then... WHAM! Slavery and mind control. Anybody who goes along with them is a complete and total sucker.

SuicideVirus has it basically right.


Channeling alien benign spirits notwithstanding, this world has yet to have contact with a benevolent extraterrestrial civilization. The problem is that the path of Science and Technology does not lead to a Service-To-Other (STO) focus and a spiritual civilization. Instead, it leads to a Service-To-Self (STS) focus and a morally retarded civilization.


If you want to find benign aliens, you will find them ONLY in humanoid systems that still embrace medieval technology. In societies that have not corrupted to the point of believing that Science is God.


Read the book The Challenge of Evil by Graham Bernard.

The extraterrestrials that people talk about and who are in the flesh, stem from the Zeta 2 Reticuli System. According to retired US Army Clifford Stone, there are probably "twelve or fewer" full-scale alien bases around this planet. And according to at least one person in Dr. Steven Greer's Disclosure Project, there is also a large alien base in the Moon.

Interview With Retired US Army Sgt. Clifford Stone

Home System of the Greys?

If they wanted to destroy us they would have already done so. Evidence of ancient atomic wars points to them having unleashed a nuclear holocaust on this world thousands of years ago.

Ancient Atomic Wars...Best Evidence?

They wish to harvest this planet, not to destroy it. The Zetan-aliens view Terra/Earth as "one big farm" that is rich in raw genetic materials. It is in their best interests to keep this "big farm" going for as long as possible.

The Pleiadians are only alien spirits. They have no spacecraft and they have no bodies. The supposed pictures of Pleiadian ships are actually Zetan spacecraft. So there is a deception going on in that regard. A manipulation of various mystics and their followers who are led to believe that the Pleiadians are physical extraterrestrials when in fact they are just alien spirits who wish to be viewed as advanced physical aliens


The Zetan hierarchy has the Reptilians and the Preying Mantises as the elite rulers in society.

The purported ability of the Reptilians to shape-shift and the Zetans in general to have godlike powers is the product of Zetan propaganda. It is complete nonsense.


They have no godlike powers at all.


The tall and short Greys serve under the Reptilians and Preying Mantises. The Nordics (i.e., genetically engineered Homo sapiens) have been reported to serve as security to protect the weaker Greys against their Terran prisoners. So the Nordics serve the Zetan empire as well.

None of them have any more telepathic ability than we have.

Are they hostile?

Yes. They do not serve a greater good and they have no intention of letting us develop into a fully autonomous civilization. They wish to keep most of us in the farm animal category.

But they are not omipotent. They can be killed and their ships and probes - despite very strong metal alloys - can be damaged and destroyed.

US Warships Off The Persian Coast Shot Down UFO During Operation Desert Storn (In Gulf War)


Originally posted by SuicideVirus
Our only real hope for survival is if over the next several decades the small humanoids from the super civilization of the Earth's past (the Roswell beings) and our own Secret Space Force join forces and present an organized front against those scummy alien bastards.

The black project space fleet is not in operation to defend this world against the Zetan empire. Reticulan forces are much more numerous, they have a vast industrial base, and their weapons - specifically their antimatter missiles and bombs - are far more powerful than our traditional nuclear variations. Their antimatter advantage is clearly explained and illustrated in Bob Lazar's documentary.

The black project space fleet is being cultivated to ensure high ranking and certain affluent members of Terran society have access to other worlds after this one is officially taken over by the Zetans and made into basically a slave planet.

I have no confidence in a super civilization from Earth's past being able to defend us. Time travel is not even possible with physically based technologies - which Einsteinian physics confirms. In order to travel back in time one must go faster than the speed of light. However, nothing can be made to go at the speed of light, much less beyond it. So travel into a parallel past will only be accomplished through advanced spiritually based technology in and from The Light Of The God Force on the Other Side.

I do have confidence that the Zetan-aliens will be overcome through advanced spiritually-based technologies that they cannot duplicate with their advanced machines. In essence...a war of Magick versus Technology.

But not the relatively primitive magick we see now among the spoon benders and levitators. The kind that can only be accessed after death or through total astral projection into The Light AND only by those who have evolved to a rarefied level of development. So they can use The Light to manifest an adequately powerful telekinetic defense.

In addition to a lack of physical shielding, there are other inherent limitations in physically based technology. Namely, with the inability to manifest teleportation and the creation of matter. That is why the Zetans have to steal from us what they want; they have no creation ability.

To telekinetically dissolve matter into light is called nihilation. Future Ascended Masters will be able to nihilate Zetan spacecraft, missiles, and probes, and to also build - or rather manifest as Co-Creators - a new spiritually-based civilization when this one is in ruins or completely destroyed.

Advanced applications of The Light is the ONLY THING which will win the wide scale and multidimensional battle of Magick versus Technology


The most likely scenario...

In the not-too-distant future, a large army of Zetan Hybrids, developed for decades from an ongoing long-term breeding program, will have an official coup of this world's governments. After that happens and most realize that the alien subjugation cannot be overcome through traditional means, things will start to change in a more positive and spiritual direction.

The greatest war the Sol System - possibly the Milky Way Galaxy - has ever known is going to occur





posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 01:00 PM
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First of all we don't have any scientific proof of Aliens as far as legitimate evidence goes. Where did you get in contact with all of these different types of aliens!?!?!?!?!?! If they are bad then they are here to command, pillage, and conquer. But we really have nothing to offer aliens, not even natural resources really. They might come here to fuel up on h2o or something but we are just insects to them. Good aliens? Metamorphasize into sexy aliens and have sex with all of us?

p.s. its anyones guess untill your abducted.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by blowfishdl
its anyones guess untill your abducted.

That's true.

And it is quite amazing the information one can find out about extraterrestrials when one does research into the testimonies of the many abductees who were kidnapped by Zetan-aliens.




[edit on 1-8-2007 by Paul_Richard]



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 01:35 PM
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Any alien contact is most likely a contact with a demon or an entity allied with demons. Indeed many potential abductees have been saved by prayers and appeals to Jesus Christ. UFO researchers have long noted the connection between the occult and visits from aliens.

The Bible speaks of a hyper intelligent serpent race that seduced eve into eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden. This race was apparently allied with fallen angels from long ago. The demons and their allies comingled and eventually mated with humans producing the abomination known as the nephilim. They created the pre-flood super advanced societies, known as atlantis and others all over the world. However all their thoughts were on evil on the time so God destroyed their civilizations in a flood. Jesus prophesied the last days would be as it was in the days of Noah. That's why the aliens are working with humans to form their diabolic plans, and thats why again they resume their genetic experiments and the creation of hybrids.

This planet is the throne of satan. Humans were sent here as a guerilla force to take authority over this stronghold. The battle is spiritual. As Jesus said, "the gates of hell shall not prevail over the church." We have to assume that this planet is deep behind enemy lines. Local visits from aliens (most of which can be assumed to be terrestrial in origin, probably from underground hideouts) are 99.99% likely to be allied with the devil and there to destroy your soul. It is unlikely that it is permissible for the righteous races among the stars to visit fallen races like the humans, demons, reptillians and hybrids on the earth. The Nordics are probably fallen angels masquerading as good, as the Bible says the devils often do.

Just look at the messages of the so called 'good' aliens. They almost without fail attack the basic message of Jesus Christ. They claim that they created Jesus or that he was just an alien etc. etc. They never mention the idea that Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, his death burial and resurrection were performed for the forgiveness of sins, so that whomever believe in him might have eternal life and escape the plans of the demons, aliens and their allies have for us helpless humans.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 01:56 PM
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It's hard to tell who is good or bad. But one thing is for sure, Aliens do exist. Simple mathematics tell us so (The Drake Equation). Not only that but when you take into consideration extra dimensions, parallel universes, and time travelers we probably have tons of visitors every single day that we either can't see or are just completely invisible to us. Science tells us now that invisibility cloaks are possible and will be manufactured here within the next 10 or so years. So with all these possibilities out there, why wouldn't other races or species want to venture here, if for nothing else other than sheer curiosity of our gene pool we call earth.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
Just look at the messages of the so called 'good' aliens. They almost without fail attack the basic message of Jesus Christ.


That's simply not true. Take a little time and read the Urantia Book. They be all up into Jesus.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 02:48 PM
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Good and Bad are pretty much relative to the observer.

If we accept the premise of alien visitation to be true, then we'd have to consider the following:

1. They haven't attempted to take us over.
2. They haven't made themselves publicly known to the world (i.e. no interviews, etc.)
3. They seem interested in our military facilities (judging from numerous sightings in such areas)
4. They seek to evade rather than engage any attempted intercepts.

while this may not make them "bad" it doesn't exactly mean "good friends" either.

As for the Dulce Base, all evidence points to it being nonsense.

As for MJ-12, there is certainly some evidence that points to it, though much of that evidence is highly questionable (but it certainly is a logical deduction that such a group was formed at the time).

Pleidians (and the entire Billy Meier story) can pretty much be blown out of the water with some of his exposed hoaxes (and just general common sense).

Reptillians don't seem to be much more than Icke's fantasy, and the idea involves accepting a whole lot of other fantasies to be true.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 03:21 PM
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SevenThunders,

You provide an interesting Christian perspective to the hostile alien problem.


Originally posted by SevenThunders
Indeed many potential abductees have been saved by prayers and appeals to Jesus Christ.

That's true.

This is evidenced by the testimonies over at Alien Resistance.org.

But keep in mind that Christian angelic "yellow" energies have not been powerful enough to completely amend the Zetan-alien kidnappings and oust all aliens from around this planet.

More spiritual energy is needed than what is currently available.


Originally posted by SevenThunders
The Bible speaks of a hyper intelligent serpent race that seduced eve into eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden.

As I see it, this is a symbolic reference to the Anunnaki (Zetan-Reptilians) who came here long ago and mixed their DNA with the "already evolving hominids" in order to come up with a race of slaves to work the mines. The archaeological conclusions of Zecharia Sitchin, in deciphering Akkadian and the older Sumerian clay tablets, point to this alien DNA tampering.


Originally posted by SevenThunders
This race was apparently allied with fallen angels from long ago. The demons and their allies comingled and eventually mated with humans producing the abomination known as the nephilim. They created the pre-flood super advanced societies, known as atlantis and others all over the world. However all their thoughts were on evil on the time so God destroyed their civilizations in a flood.

My translation:

The Atlanteans, who were known in ancient India as an empire that had weapons that could level an entire city, attempted their own War of Independence against the Anunnaki - and lost. The resulting nuclear holocaust is what caused worldwide earthquakes, the tilting of the world on its axis, and The Great Flood which is documented in various ancient cultures.


Originally posted by SevenThunders
Jesus prophesied the last days would be as it was in the days of Noah. That's why the aliens are working with humans to form their diabolic plans, and thats why again they resume their genetic experiments and the creation of hybrids.

That Hybrid army will not be easy to overcome.


Originally posted by SevenThunders
This planet is the throne of satan. Humans were sent here as a guerilla force to take authority over this stronghold. The battle is spiritual. As Jesus said, "the gates of hell shall not prevail over the church." We have to assume that this planet is deep behind enemy lines.

If this planet is deep behind enemy lines, I'd love to know where the good territory begins



Originally posted by SevenThunders
Local visits from aliens (most of which can be assumed to be terrestrial in origin, probably from underground hideouts) are 99.99% likely to be allied with the devil and there to destroy your soul. It is unlikely that it is permissible for the righteous races among the stars to visit fallen races like the humans, demons, reptillians and hybrids on the earth. The Nordics are probably fallen angels masquerading as good, as the Bible says the devils often do.

Just look at the messages of the so called 'good' aliens. They almost without fail attack the basic message of Jesus Christ. They claim that they created Jesus or that he was just an alien etc. etc.

That's true. The Greys would like Christians to believe that they created Jesus. Clifford Stone attests to that point.




posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 03:48 PM
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Where's everyone getting this info?!

So many people are posting on this topic as if it's common knowledge and fact.

"The aliens are like this, they don't do that... blah blah blah..."

Are you all privy to some easily accessible well known documentary, or is this all speculation? If it's the latter, then surely all these posts should be preceded by "I think." or "in my opinion." or even "Some other guy thins." or "in the opinion of some other guy."

I believe good and evil are primarily social conditioning. An 'instinct' that determines good from evil may exist, but we've shown many times that this can be easily disregarded by man, even apes! I'm pretty sure than anything more advanced than us would have very different ideas or morality.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Spec01
I believe good and evil are primarily social conditioning. An 'instinct' that determines good from evil may exist, but we've shown many times that this can be easily disregarded by man, even apes! I'm pretty sure than anything more advanced than us would have very different ideas or morality.

You are touting the old "truth and morality are relative" perspective. Which is a great scapegoat for irresponsibility. If everything is relative and morality doesn't matter, then no one ever has to account for anything


However, nothing can be further from the truth.


Near Death Experience research invalidates the argument of moral relativism. Whether we believe it or not, we are all held accountable for our actions and even our intentions.



The choices we make in life matters deeply.

Life is a golden opportunity to live a spiritual life in a world of darkness.

Life is very important because how we have lived our life largely determines how far we can go into the light.

Source: Near Death Experience Research Conclusions

The Zetan-aliens are judged by their actions, not by our or their "social conditioning."

And their actions point to them being spiritually retarded.


Just because a society has advanced technology does not automatically mean it is Service-To-Other (STO) oriented. They are Service-To-Self (STS) oriented, as their treatment and kidnapping of abductees clearly demonstrates.



[edit on 1-8-2007 by Paul_Richard]



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by closettrekkie
I love how some people talk with authority on how aliens really are and their intentions as if they just got back from having a beer with them at the corner pub. LOL! Too funny!


WHO TOLD YOU? damn cover blown, now I am off to my home Neptune,
to sit around and do nothing.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 07:07 PM
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dear thread-opener...

you say you are afraid. fear will attract all the bad aliens into your life. happiness will attract all the good aliens into your life.

So theres the good, the bad and the ugly, and you will meet them depending upon who and how YOU are.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 07:22 PM
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I think you guys needs to take a grain of salt when listening to the words of an "abductee".. or gaining information from the internet. You need to remember that all information is controlled. People are paid to say things which distort information and confuse the reader/truth seeker.

Personally i believe that there are good and bad "aliens". I also recognise that our DNA has been tampered with, Atlantis was real (and leumaria), and a whole load of other funky stuff too, like 2012.

I remain optimistic about the future. I think alot of information out there paints a picture which is alot bleaker than it really is. Even if some bad aliens do show up, i do not think all is lost. I believe we have more power than we realise.. only time will tell though



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by closettrekkie
I love how some people talk with authority on how aliens really are and their intentions as if they just got back from having a beer with them at the corner pub. LOL! Too funny!


I would normally agree with you there but when you begin to objectively investigate the phenomena there is something really weird there. J Allen Hynek a physicist who worked on Project Blue Book for the Air Force as a debunker changed his mind after studying the phenomena. His conclusion it wasnt biological or extraterrestrial, but something extraordinary existed. We simply cant test it in a laboratory. There is nothing for us to sample. Yet there is real phenomena beyond human control. We can try to define It through our religions or fantasies. We can ignore and deny it. Neither path will lead to the truth.




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