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Originally posted by TheStev...is it not possible that military technology has had a breakthrough in the last 'twenty years', that has made these impossible things possible?
Originally posted by MatyasActually, as far as the real level of the military's technological sophistication is concerned, yes, it is, and advanced enough to have done stuff like this hundreds of times over. I believe they are at least 1000 to 1500 years ahead of the private sector based on their advancement acceleration from 1947.
Originally posted by TheStevYou mention the height and angle affects the movement, which is understandable. What I'm wondering is this: if an object is to be studied microscopically and has height and angle, wouldn't flattening it with a cover slide affect the observation? For example: if we assume, for the sake of argument, that the movement witnessed was indication of some kind of intelligence or programming. Is it not possible that a cover slide would weigh on the fibre and stop it from being able to make such movement?
What stands out is that the person who has posted the video claims this is 'Proof Positive Morgellons is an Infection':
But considering a task force has been formed for this phenomena, has been operating for 12 months, and even has an official spokesman (Dan Rutz), I find it very strange that there is absolutely nothing on the site.
Out of curiosity, where did you read about the task force being delayed six times? I would be interested to read that info.
The problem I have is this: if the key makes something of a size to get "noticed" which means it is rejected by the cell, how does this work for viruses? If the key can go unnoticed in a virus, then why not in some kind of nanotech.
I also wonder - and this is very abstract - what your take is on the military technology at least twenty years ahead of civilian technology concept.
"Or that there's anything about the task force. I didn't look up the CDC budget to see if there's been any changes. "
Originally posted by Byrd
Originally posted by Southcty
I am wondering, Could you actually do this???? Or maybe explain how a person such as myself, would go about finding out this type of information? I would really like to find this out.
Originally posted by Byrd
Not at the size shown. Remember, amoebas (which are about the size of the tiniest filament) swim just fine even though you've got a cover slip on it. So do pond scum microbes.
H2O2 is an antimicrobial agent. However, they believe the ONLY time it bubbles is when it's in contact with germs. This is not true. It bubbles in contact with blood and many other substances.
The key simply lets it in. Once inside the cell, the virus proceeds to destroy the cell and make a lot of replicas. Meanwhile the body's immune system starts reacting to the invaders.
There's no point in trying to nano-engineer the thing from the ground up when you could just use something that already does most of what you want and modify that to work.
www.dukemednews.org...
Originally posted by TheStev
Originally posted by Byrd
Not at the size shown. Remember, amoebas (which are about the size of the tiniest filament) swim just fine even though you've got a cover slip on it. So do pond scum microbes.
Now I'm getting a bit confused. Didn't we establish that one of the reasons the experiment is flawed is that we don't have a reference for size?
The key simply lets it in. Once inside the cell, the virus proceeds to destroy the cell and make a lot of replicas. Meanwhile the body's immune system starts reacting to the invaders.
Again, not quite following. Let me rephrase: If a nanomachine which was a similar size to a virus contained one of these keys, why would it be kept out?
There's no point in trying to nano-engineer the thing from the ground up when you could just use something that already does most of what you want and modify that to work.
www.dukemednews.org...
I disagree based on one point: we don't know what the intended purpose is. If we're assuming that this is something that has been engineered to serve a particular purpose, then we can't state with any certainty what would and wouldn't be easiest/most productive/most useful without knowing the intended goal. Would you agree that there would be some things which could not be achieved by viruses etc and would need a nanomachine?
Let's keep in mind that Dr. Staninger was talking about materials that a.) self-replicate, b.) self assemble, c.) contain a power source AND can tap into bio-electric generators. Wouldn't it be possible that the individual nano-particles are assembling into something large enough to be seen by the human eye? Wouldn't also make sense that alone, these particle do nothing, but once assembled exhibit a specific set of behaviors for which they were engineered? I keep going back to the chystals that are often found withi the nano-machines. My days in IT have taught me that chrystals are liekly to be the next data media as vast amounts of data can be stored three-dimensionally within a chrystal's structure. There's soemthing there but I need to dig some more
Originally posted by kozmo
Sure, "Nano" refers to molecule or particulate size BUT given the advents of development in this field I don't necessarily believe that it HAs to refer to size. It seems that "Nano" has developed to cover particles that exhibit behavioral characteristics OR size.
Let's keep in mind that Dr. Staninger was talking about materials that a.) self-replicate, b.) self assemble, c.) contain a power source AND can tap into bio-electric generators. Wouldn't it be possible that the individual nano-particles are assembling into something large enough to be seen by the human eye?
Wouldn't also make sense that alone, these particle do nothing, but once assembled exhibit a specific set of behaviors for which they were engineered?
I keep going back to the chystals that are often found withi the nano-machines.
Regarding the "Keys" that you discuss with respect to viruses. Aren't these "keys" simple proteins on the surface of the cell - a receptor point if you will? When a virus' surface protein is recognized my a cell's receptor isn't that when the cell wall permits passage of material? It seems to me that perhaps what they are doing is taking simple snippets of DNA or RNA (Which can be publicly bought and sold) and simple proteomes and packaging these into a nao-tube. When the cells receives the protein it allows for the passage of the RNA or DNA molecules into the cell to reassmeble forming some type of new "entity" cell that has a new set of instructions to do something.
It seems wierd that so many people are experiencing such deep mood swings, violent tendencies, increases in Autism, ADD, ADHD etc... I believe the program is there to create such confusing background noise in our psyche so that we cannot concentrate enough to reason our way to the truth of what is happening.
Originally posted by rachel07
The fact that the organism contains three nuclei is a good indication that it is man-made.
From what I see of the organism; it is fast replicating, and is able to mend itself meaning that those who are suffering there is no known cure.
As it is like the Rhodophyta, having studied biology and microorganisms this organism will continue to grow back once it is in the system.
Originally posted by kozmo
This just get's more and more scary by the minute!
Found this article. It discusses reactions of carbon nano-tubes with bacteria AND mamalian cells (Of which WE are comprised). It seems that even those IN THE FIELD of nanotech are calling for more stringent regulations and safeguards.
This, friends, is much more dangerous than we realize. If private and University lab technology is just uncovering this data now, then I have a hunch that defense contractors and the military-industrial complex has been doing this for 15 to 20 years.
Final thought: Carbon nano-tubes destroy human cells and actually CONTRIBUTE to the growth and development of bacteria. Just a theory, but could it be that the nano-tubes are not carrying anything at all, just there to reduce immune system response and that bacterium have been developed independently and are being either a.) sprayed amongst the chemtrails or being delivered through the food chain to perform some other purpose?