Originally posted by Southcty
I must clarify that the information I have presented in this thread is NOT the work of Dr. Hildegarde Staninger. I have posted this information here because of the high number of reads and The reality of shear difficulties in getting this information to the general public. The work presented at the www.silentsuperbug.com sites is NOT the work of dr. Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, even though I do respect highly the good doctors efforts in unraveling and ultimately solving this huge problem. Sorry for the confusion.

The original discussion was to Staninger on Rense.

As to your expert, could you provide us some background on him? I see some terms in your communications with him that are ...unusual. I realize there's probably a language barrier, but several nouns are misused and some of the comments do not make biological sense (the "protothecosis like character and it mayor parasitic protozoa gene in-put" caught my eye particularly.)

There's also no evidence that it can be spread to others in the household. One of the heads of the Morgellon's foundation has a son who suffers from this, and yet no other member of her household has ever come down with it.

My understanding of this organizsm - if you can call it that - is that it is responsive only in people whose pH is within a specific range. Above and below that range, it is not capable of surviving, reassembling or replicating. However, given the nature of this 'thing" it posses the ability to evolve, so I would have to assume that eventually it will find a way to increase it's survival range.

Keep in mind, in the field of nano-tech they are combining synthetic and natural materials with things like RNA, DNA and other proteins that exhibit specific behavioral characteristics. In other words, you could look at alot of these things as being "Cyborgs" of sorts.

This field of reserach, with almost no oversight or regulatory commission, scares the living poop striaght out of me! Clearly we need to keep digging to gain a better understanding of what is being unleashed on us. Just as we insisted that there be restrictions on chemical and biological weapons, why would we not demand the same from a hybrid of the two? After all, when you create particles that are too small to see or otherwise sense, that possess behavioral characteristics not understood by the poeple creating them, that possess the ability to infiltrate any or all earthly biological beings and create a systemic response that has a negative impact on the being - what do we really have here? A new weapon!

Just as biological and chemical research has developed cures, new beneficial materials etc... It is monitored and regulated. International law forbids such research for nefarious purposes. Is it not time to force the nano-tech industry to do the same. If we do not, the consequnces could prove fatal, not just for mankind, but for the entire biosphere as a whole.

Does anyone have any ideas or information on if it is possible that holographic images somehow in the body system can be tied into this.

I know it sounds strange to ask this but trust that I have good reason for asking.

Originally posted by interestedalways
Does anyone have any ideas or information on if it is possible that holographic images somehow in the body system can be tied into this.

I know it sounds strange to ask this but trust that I have good reason for asking.

I don't doubt that you have good cause to ask such a question... I just don't think I fully understand the question. I do know that researchers have found evidence of Silica crystals within the nanotubes that are/can be released into their surroundings.

I also know that crystals are capable of storing HUGE amounts of data within a 3D media.

There are also reports that these nano-robots a.) contain a battery-like system, b.) can utilize bio-electric energy from their host organism, c.) have been thought to either receive or transmit data... Does that help?

Please clarify what you are asking and I may be able to point you toward the information that you are seeking.

kozmo, doesn't it make sense that if Morgellons is a product of hybrid nanotech and microbiology that nanotech could also be used to fight it?

I understand your concerns over opening Pandora's box, but once opened the fire must be fought with fire. To stop nanotech or hobble it with restrictions, controls, and politics would stifle the advances, much in the same way stem cell research is in the U.S. when the reality reveals many heretofore hidden benefits.

Let's be careful about throwing the baby out with the bathwater and see what becomes of nanotech first.

Originally posted by kozmo

Originally posted by interestedalways
Does anyone have any ideas or information on if it is possible that holographic images somehow in the body system can be tied into this.

I know it sounds strange to ask this but trust that I have good reason for asking.

I don't doubt that you have good cause to ask such a question... I just don't think I fully understand the question. I do know that researchers have found evidence of Silica crystals within the nanotubes that are/can be released into their surroundings.

I also know that crystals are capable of storing HUGE amounts of data within a 3D media.

There are also reports that these nano-robots a.) contain a battery-like system, b.) can utilize bio-electric energy from their host organism, c.) have been thought to either receive or transmit data... Does that help?

Please clarify what you are asking and I may be able to point you toward the information that you are seeking.

Well, I experienced something on my upper arm that first appeared to be a flek of gold glitter. Then I turned my arm to see it reflect and realized it was self illuminating. It didn't need to be facing the light to shine.

It was like a thin sheet of film, rough on the edges.

As I looked at it is seemed a blue/red flash hit it and when it did it (the film) became animated, like a siloutte of a man with long wavy brown hair moving in a wavy, dense fashion. I looked away to shake my self and looked back to see a second, independant image in the upper back *layer* of the film. It appeared as severel people (males) walking in procession with hoods on like monks. It was a smaller faster picture than the front and center image.

I was interupted and paniced, not even thinking about saving the thing. It was kind of sitting in a larger skin pore, which makes me wonder if it landed on me or came from within. Sounds far out, huh? Yeah, I thought so, too when it happened.

Something I just thought of when I read Kozmo's post I quoted above is the silica link.

I worked for a company in Blue Springs, Mo that packaged Silica for chromatic separation of substances or some such thing. Point is I had alot of it all around me and I would have breathed and absorbed some. Maybe nothing but worth mentioning.

Byrd... Thanks for the great links! I'm looking forward to combing through them to learn more about the field. Like I've alluded to before, this is all new to me and I am anxious to understand it better.

Regarding the Rense links - many of those are links to very reputable sites - sites that come directly from the nanotech field. As far as your assertion that RNA/DNA or proteomes cannot be combined with synthetics, I have to vehemently disagree. I wish I had saved some of the links that I have visited previosly (I will attempt to locate them again), but I have read many, many articles discussing the use of carbon nano-tubes as delivery vehicles for EXACTLY that type of biological material. And keep in mind that there biologically inert materials that do not react with the immune system, or at least react minimally (As probably anything foreign would elicit some reaction - no matter how minor). Look at stints, chips, pacemakers etc...

What concerns me the most is that the oversight is lax and underfunded. I am always skeptical of self-policing as the potential to make a profit will always outweigh responsible self-policing. For an example, simply look at big Pharma and what is going on there now that they have a few of "Their own" running the FDA.

I will attempt to locate the articles that I descibed above for your review.

Interestedalways - that is some crazy stuff. I have no idea what to tell you at this point. I have never heard of anything quite like you're describing. Did you manage to save it? Photograph it? I would certainly be paranoid as well if I had witnessed something that crazy on my person I'll keep your case in mind as I am researching through the material and if I find anything similar or related I will U2U you and post it here.

Nice find! Exactly the kind of information that I am looking for! You share my thoughts on this exactly. This whole "technology" is much more advanced than they are telling us and I am convinced that it is being used nefariously against us.

Originally posted by kozmo
Interestedalways - that is some crazy stuff. I have no idea what to tell you at this point. I have never heard of anything quite like you're describing. Did you manage to save it? Photograph it? I would certainly be paranoid as well if I had witnessed something that crazy on my person I'll keep your case in mind as I am researching through the material and if I find anything similar or related I will U2U you and post it here.

I would appreciate your sharing anything that could "shed some light" so to speak. It was before last christmas when this happened and I have basically written it off as another crazy thing with no explaination. I searched the internet really good and found some patents for smart dust and things like that, but haven't found anything that could really explain what it was.

What was most strange and caught my attention to examine this thing in the first place was the self illumination factor, that it shone by it's own self, didn't need the light to reflect the shine.

I didn't save it because I panicked when my daughter came in the room and somehow I actually blocked it from my mind and didn't think of it again until I woke up the next morning. I also find it strange that I was able to *see* the images on that tiny piece of *material* It appeared as a hologram as far as the double images and the movement of the images.

Thanks for responding. I feel it is tied in with this nanotech somehow.

...you never fail to dazzle with your knowledge. Thank you so much for contributing (and continuing to contribute) to my thread. Not only does the math cross my eyes, but the engineering principles alone are enough to make me dizzy. Just when I think I understand something - I discover that I understand much less than I thought.

Do you have any links or can you recommend where a relative novice such as myself can find out more about this technology - in layman's terms? Thanks in advance.