It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by MischeviousElf
There are HUNDREDS of enexplained exact matches of these between cultures prior to any contact between them.
Even before most westerners knew where Tibet was, much less what
their situation was, and almost twenty years before the advent of the
Tibetan Diaspora, cultural affinities between these two peoples were
noted by Frank Waters in his landmark work, Book of the Hopi (1963).
I suppose the Dalai Lama has no knowledge of his culture and is not an authority to confirm the links between the cultures?
The stone tablets of the yellow race of people are kept by the Tibetans, in Tibet. If you went straight through the Hopi Reservation to the other side of the world, you would come out in Tibet. The Tibetan word for "sun" is the Hopi word for "moon" and the Hopi word for "sun" is the Tibetan word for "moon".
Originally posted by Marduk
Actually yes, I do believe that was their intentions, the reason being that the Mayans believed in cycles, and since the previous four cycles had ended in destruction and re-birth, so will the fifth.
clearly you don't have the mental capacity to understand so I will do a little basic math for you with a little elementary anthropology
it is true that the Maya didn't believe in linear time and that they saw everything as cycles
Originally posted by Marduk
so you have to balance this with the credibility of their beliefs
The first world was ended by a universal deluge,
The second world was ended by a universal deluge
the third world was ended by a universal deluge
unfortunatley this is where your whole house of cards collapses into a pile of sewage and refuse
there have been no universal deluges at those dates and Homo sapiens as a species has happily lived through all of them no problem at all
Originally posted by Marduk
the Maya did not have advanced astronimical knowledge
Originally posted by Byrd
The Earth is actually in perpetual "alignment" with the center of the galaxy. What changes is that every spring equinox, the rising point of the sun comes closer to the "dark stripe" of dust in the center of our galaxy. Right now, it's just a few points off.
posted by defcon
The end of the Mayan calendar has to do with a celestial event that occurs.
posted by defcon
So, I am waiting for you to quote a single credible site that states that the 2012 calendar end does not relate back to a celestial event of the merging of the plains of the tree of life
posted by defcon
Please don’t bring in a bunch of Sumerian crap, besides derailing the thread its painfully obvious to everyone you cannot make good on your boast so far, and thus are changing the topic.
December 21st, 2012 - Modern astronomy can tell us a lot about the black and white facts of where we will be in space at that time, where our planets will be, etc. The fun thing is that the ancient Mayans and Sumerians (and some speculate thed Egyptians) knew about this long ago, and depicted the events in their carvings.
posted by defcon
Can you actually not understand what is being said here, or are you playing dumb so you don’t have to agree that you were wrong in what you posted to me?
It does not mean that the Solar system is near the center of the Milky Way, it means that it is parallel with the Milky Way’s plane of the ecliptic. Meaning that we are in alignment with the center of the galaxy, not near the center of the galaxy
posted by defcon
The event is the Earth entering the dark rift of the Milky Way, which they knew of as the cosmic birth canal.
posted by defcon
You should really learn to think in three dimensions when you’re talking about space, not in two.
posted by defcon
Telling me these events did not happened does nothing to prove to me that the Mayans did not believe they happened, and did not believe they would happen again in the future. You see it does not effect my house of cards in the slightest, because I never said I that I believe the end will be in 2012 or not, I simply stated that I believe it was what the Mayans believed…
posted by defcon
The end of the Mayan calendar has to do with a celestial event that occurs. It has nothing to do with the date of 2012 or 2007 as they did not use the Gregorian calendar to make their calendar. So the event is scheduled to occur in December 2012 on our current calendar, and any changes in our calendar do nothing to effect that date. The event is the Earth entering the dark rift of the Milky Way, which they knew of as the cosmic birth canal.
posted by defcon
No, they did not understand what these were, but they could still see them and attributed them to religion and the Gods.
Originally posted by T0by
The Mayans of Central America had a highly developed understanding of the cycles of the sun, moon and Venus, illustrated on their famous calendar. It is common knowledge that the Mayan calendar ends on the 21st December 2012, but why is this so? The Mayans worshipped the sun as the ‘first lord’ and like many ancient cultures, held ceremonies at the winter solstice, which marked the beginning of their new year and the return of the light. At the 2012 winter solstice (21st December in the Northern Hemisphere), the sun will rise through the centre of a gap in the milky way, known to the Mayans as the sacred tree. The sacred tree was both the door to the underworld and the birth canal of the cosmic mother. At dawn on 21st December 2012, the milky way galaxy, as seen from Central America, will lie across the horizon, so at sunrise the sun (first lord) will rise from the underworld, pass through this birth canal and open the cosmic sky portal. This event only occurs once every 26,000 years, and the Mayans considered it so momentous that December 2012 marked the end of human time, as they knew it and the birth of a new age. This 26,000-year period is known to Western astrologers as the great year and is divided into 12 roughly 2000-year periods known as the age of Aries, age of Pisces, age of Aquarius, etc. As the earth turns on its axis, it wobbles slightly, causing a 1º change every 72 years in the direction to which the North Pole points. The great year is the time it takes for the North Pole to complete an entire circle – approximately 26,000 years. We are currently moving from the age of Pisces to the age of Aquarius.
72.14.253.104...:SLcMiHCgAx8J:www.techinsight.com.au/clients/livingnow/%3Fp%3D120+mayan+cosmic+birth+canal&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=au
At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life a tree remembered in all the world's spiritual traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration.
www.water-consciousness.com...
I thought it's common knowledge that it is linked to a cosmic event? Or such that it links beyond coincidence with the specific date of their dec 21st, to the date of the cosmic event ( dec 21st )
How much they specifically went on about this event i'm not too sure. Or even at all?