From what I gather djohnsto77 is that David Sereda claimed, I think in good faith imho, that the video was of UFO's, but that he withheld the fact that there is a number of airports as well as a flight pattern that includes that area of the lake that was filmed and the hoax comes in as David knew, in fact, about the flight paths and airports and he hyped the video here in order to sell his new dvd coming out. I feel he was being sincere, and he came across that way to me on the Fox segment as well. We all have our opinions on this so I will leave it at that.

just when you think youv seen it all, then this one turns into a hoax LMFAO

this is a hoax? If this a hoax some people need to find other occupations

At first i found strange the sky was all black i mean no single tiny luma point (stars) that could signify the sky was actually real.If it's all black it's easy to arrange all that

Then the language used by the dood,i found it a bit strange but this is my opinion

Also why did he switch of mode i mean near the end he switches so we can see the sea etc... like if he wanted to show us that was real footage if i was him i wouldn't have switched but zoomed in

I don't know what to conclude

I don't think I understand you. Are you guys still sitting around bashing this guy?

Have you heard his music? Do you know anything about music? If it seems unrelated... I just ask that you consider for a moment that maybe it is NOT. That a command of music theory might, indeed, be prevelant. Why? Hmmm.... I need your help on that one. I don't know the answer completely. Just know it's "in there"... *evilgrin* yikes.

Does it matter whether or not ATS thinks this is a hoax, when this project will get a few more of humanity to start looking toward the stars... and keeping a vigilant watch? Would that really be construed in your mind as a bad thing? If so, why?

Again, you guys have "deerintheheadlightssyndrome". You got caught up in the "pretty lights" and have completely disregarded the hours after the "sighting" on that night. You chose to disregard the repetitive nature and similar evidence/testimony this person offers.

Nope. Not ATS. I want my PRETTY LIGHTS. LOL!!! I hope it was fun... b/c I think we let another one that had some clues we could have used... get away. All because you guys just had to stay all "duh" with the pretty lights... LMAO! *sigh* oh well. We'll figure it out eventually... I know we will.

Southpaw

[edit on 4/303/07 by Southpaw11]

[edit on 4/303/07 by Southpaw11]

I am soooooooo tired of the hoaxes.

How can any serious Ufology take place when everybody has to spend time and energy on long threads debunking hoaxes?

I am not so quick to judge this one a hoax, but I can certainly understand why others are.

WILL ALL THE PROFESSIONAL DISINFORMATION AGENTS CURRENTLY STATIONED AT ATS PLEASE SEND ME A U2U AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE MENTIONED IN MY UPCOMING EXPOSE?

[edit on 3-5-2007 by groingrinder]

Originally posted by highCT
you are misunderstanding him SkepticOverlord. he moved the camera that was on a tripod that did make that "jiggle" you talk of, but THAT IS NOT WHAT HE IS SHOWING OR EVEN TALKING ABOUT. he only moved the camera to keep the object on the screen because it was moving off to the right.

No it was not. It was centre screen, no problem and then the jiggle and blatant move of the camera. This is not apprent at all to the viewer to be "house sized" either. It looks like a lame atempt at trying to make a planes lights look as if they are moving fast. This is pathetic as "proof". No night vision this time, hmm I wonder why? If it was, it would proove the non movement of the "orb" (plane).

Respect groingrinder, but it's not willfull debunking. It's denying ignorance.

This thread should be closed now imo.

[edit on 5-3-2007 by Xeros]