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"If you could ask a time traveler a question what would you ask?"

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posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by timedrifter
not sure if someone already asked but. if I volunteer, will I be able to come back the day I am picked up?

also, your friend, does he have a website or something or is he only going through you?


on the deck, how do you explain this ? Its very confusing, this whole thread. It really is hard to tell if he is serious or not.

If I had abduction experiences and time travel memories, I'd be hesitant to joke about Jesus being at a slayer concert or whatever the story is now.

His credibility is nil right now.

Have you spoken to his parents personally about the experiences with the "other" TD, or is that his story ?

I'm not surprised he lost his physical evidence. It would only be the most incredible tangible object on earth, considering what it would prove.

The only way he gets any credibility is to pull a rabbit out of his *** and give us 3-5 concrete "predictions" that happen within the next week, like the Oscars.



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 12:36 AM
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well, if you look at the properties of TD's avatar, you can find the website . I did.

In the future, TD, when writing an abduction, time travel story, leave out references to John Titor, and project serpo, and carrying around two bags of weed


interesting find on your myspace page, TD. This is from the group you lead, space and time travellers, which you are the leader of.

"yooooo!!!, lets do this time and space travel ****!! jump on the band wagon, why not, my butterflies and my beehotchs, why not.

originally I wanted to name this group "hot chicks and bouncers that like to time travel" but I didnt think that would be fair and I dont think my wife would like that too much either."


You don't seem like a serious time traveller dude, you just don't

[edit on 23-2-2007 by syrinx high priest]

[edit on 23-2-2007 by syrinx high priest]



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 01:06 AM
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onthedeck,
you are my ambassador! I do feel a (non-homosexual) connection with you my friend.
I commend your research and intelect and appreciate your defending my honor.

ZeddicusZulZorander,
I appreciate you reconsidering and I agree that we are all human and make mistakes indeed, I know I learned a lesson of patience today, onthedeck sort of taught the lesson to me.

TeslaandLyne,
can you clarify your post, the last paragraph is confusing.

syrinx high priest,
there is always someone holding my honesty against me, and I like that my myspace group description has a fun spin to it, besides, who made the rules that everything has to be so serious? I think this is where programming comes into play, wouldn't you say?

as for the two bags of weed and all that, who says that was wrong? your telling me you never drank alcohol or smoked weed ever???? hmmmm, who made up these so called morals you appear to be hiding behind?

now your judging me and I am up to the challenge my friend
why would I joke about jesus? I was NOT.

*plus I would like to give a "special shout out" to my man "win 52"



[edit on 23-2-2007 by timedrifter]



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 07:33 AM
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Timedrifter, you're welcome! I'm on the side of truth and getting info (and power) out to the people!!

syrinx high priest, I don't know where to start. I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but wanted to respond to your post and concerns.

Your observation is right on. I'm serious, but only to an extent. Look, truth can often be stranger than fiction.

I hold many of the subjects (esp. time travel, Jesus, the human race, etc.) in the highest regard; if that's the correct way to put it. One would think that we cannot take whatever gifts have been bestowed upon us lightly. In fact, my personal belief is that I would not.

As hard a time as we have on this planet, I know that if I were to experience these "things", that disrespectful actions and words would be an affront to my own race, and the universe that created me. Being completely honest is not TD's way of demeaning, belittling, or debasing his experiences, or the individuals that were involved in them.

I've known him for now four months, and I know he holds all of you, and our race in the highest regard - as we all should (the constructive, good, well-meaning of us...and even though some are not, many are deserving of forgiveness - even if he may disagree with that; by his own admission.).

The purpose for him getting all of this out, warts and all, is to embody what a lot of people pay lip service to, but sadly don't follow through with. And that is to get the truth out - the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

But to reference what I just said to TD about getting the truth - the unadulterated truth - to every person on this planet, it must happen without regard for my own (or his own) beliefs, exaggerated sense of self or self-importance, or a sense of superiority over others, I/WE WANT THIS TRUTH OUT!!

Part and parcel of "speaking the truth" includes making honest revelations - sometimes embarrassing revelations - often without regard for how they might negatively affect the person making them. This is the right and proper way to "give" everything you have for the benefit of anyone who is able to receive your message.

In TD's case, he risks people blaming his experiences on marijuana or drug use, but he puts it out there. It's important that he does so, and he did. All of it must be placed in the public arena to be weighed by each person on his own. He has told about the marijuana and much more, being in a sense brutally honest about all of his experiences.

This is an extremely selfless act. He risks more derision and personal attacks by being as forthright as he is - but he believes it's important! Ironically, if he did not put this part of his experience out there, people would still find a way to use that information against him.

And this "truth" is everything from ufos, ETs, black ops, free energy, poverty, wholesale murder for profit, control, manipulation and exploitation of the majority by a paranoid, greedy few and more.

This "minority" TD calls the "controllers". You can call them what you want. If you feel like there is a universe around you that someone knows about, but are not telling you, then I say hallelujah!! You're right on the money! I'm with you, and this is coming to an end!

For better or for worse, TD has been a person I believe has had these experiences. At the moment, I cannot confirm the time travel experiences, except to say that there is corroborative evidence being compiled from one side of this equation, and it involves many visits that someone who looks, talks and acts just like TD made to TD, his friends, family, coworkers and strangers.

To me, if we can prove this half of the equation, then why shouldn't the other half exist; it seems its implicit in this whole picture of time travel. There are these "visits" and much more.

I know that TD's maintained a sense of humor throughout all of this, but this sense of humor was hard won. When he first began remembering his abduction in 1997, five years after his abduction in 1992, he was so afraid to go to sleep that he would drink himself to sleep virtually every night. There was no sense of humor about these things at that time.

TD suffered through almost ten years of this before finally coming to terms with these bizarre memories. During this time, he said he was too afraid to research any of this stuff for fear that he might prove it to be true.

Fortunately, he was able to put the alcohol and his hesitation aside, and in 2006 he began to research the thoughts he had running through his head. He said immediately he began to see correlations online that confirmed many things he had "remembered". Interestingly enough, a lot of the corroboration he found was in the testimony of secret government project whistleblowers.

Yes he now has a sense of humor about these things. He is a personality. Does this negate his story? I say no; it has nothing to do with personality, or a sense of humor - or lack of. His approach may rub people the wrong way, but if you turn away from his story out of distaste, you're going to miss a lot.

And take it from me, he has respect for people, for our race, and for races not of this planet. The more I learn about him, the more this becomes very clear to me. However, he is a regular guy who grew up in New York (correct me if I'm wrong on that TD). Who says that ETs, or god don't have a sense of humor? TD did have these experiences, so that has to say something about how things operate in this universe.

I say, reserve judgment until you have heard the whole story. And everyone who reads this thread, and the related threads are now part of this story. The story is unfolding and evolving as I type this...

So please, keep an open mind. Sometimes the only thing keeping you from the truth you want are your own preconceived notions. I say, let them down for a bit and sail on as if this were a fun ride - it's supposed to be. But there are misguided people that have lead us for so long to think that it's not.

For those misguided souls who have cast a dark shadow over countless others, enjoy your dirge, because the party's about to get started. *party horn*

Peace!!

[edit on 23-2-2007 by OnTheDeck]

[edit on 23-2-2007 by OnTheDeck]



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 09:51 AM
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so you expect people to believe jesus and elvis and slayer will be at this concert, and that's not a joke ?

TD. Did you fashion your story after reading about Titor and project serpo ?

Care to elaborate on how you lost the physical evidence that would prove both abductions stories are true, and time travel is possible ?

I don't think its a stretch to say such an artifact would be more valuable than the holy grail.

One last piece of advice, there's another hoaxer on your website, billy meier. Titor, serpo, Meier. That's like a hoax convention



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 10:31 AM
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syrinx high priest, you legitimately asked,



so you expect people to believe jesus and elvis and slayer will be at this concert, and that's not a joke ?


He is not joking. He is reporting these events exactly as he remembers them. One can either accept the possibility of this, or dismiss it. He is as amused at the seeming contradiction in an assemblage such as this, but maintains the reality of this event.

I completely understand your perception of this event. It's strange to me. But just because it seems strange does not mean it is impossible.

I will let TD answer your next question, but I wanted to include what I know from him. You asked,



TD. Did you fashion your story after reading about Titor and project serpo ?


As it happens, TD is a person who came out with his story after John Titor, but does this mean he copied Titor? It's possible, but from what I now know of TD it is not the case.

Also, TD made his revelations about his abduction and experiences with a gray who called itself/himself "Ben", who took TD to a planet with two suns, etc. - information that corroborated information that came out AFTER TD's revelation on the Project Serpo site. In fact, TD preempted Serpo by at least a month with his revelations.

TD can also answer your third question, but I'll respond as well,



Care to elaborate on how you lost the physical evidence that would prove both abductions stories are true, and time travel is possible ?


He will answer with regard to the physical evidence left from the abduction, but I will go further and say that he has had bizarre, unexplained experiences with multiple witnesses his entire life. These to me are better than just physical evidence, and he has these kinds of experiences in spades.

You said,



I don't think its a stretch to say such an artifact would be more valuable than the holy grail.


This small piece in particular, that was a remnant of his abduction has been produced by many abductees and has not proven to anyone to be any sort of holy grail. These artifcats have been discounted, or fall into an unknown category. The very physical, witnessed events - a long history of these events - far outweighs being in possession of a simple ET artifact.

Finally,



One last piece of advice, there's another hoaxer on your website, billy meier. Titor, serpo, Meier. That's like a hoax convention


Billy Meier has not conclusively been proved a hoax or a fraud. In fact, specialists, as I understand it, have not been able to reproduce the quality and believability of his photos and video.

It's all a matter of belief and perception, but soon it will be impossible to sit on the fence about this stuff...



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 11:14 AM
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Thanks TD.

I know tthat a lot of you feel that what td says is a product of a bad dream.

I am here to say that I believe what he offers is a glimpse of what is in store for us.

How do I know? I have been given glimpses of similar things.

How have these glimpses been given? They come in the form of an audible voice and being given visions of things that are not possible to dream up, without actually being there. I have listened to a group of spiritual beings singing a song in a language that I have never heard, but I understood what they were singing. I have been swept up in the arms of a spiritual being and felt a great feeling of love and care for Earth and humanity.

Can people have these glimpses? I believe they can. First you need to believe in spiritual beings, but most important you need to ask and listen. You need to purify your thoughts and ask forgiveness for the wrongs you have done to others in your life. You need to get rid of all the hatred in your soul.

I am not a preacher and I have no faith in most of the popular theology we have today. They are corrupted and lead people down the wrong road. I have never talked to a Tibetan Monk, but I believe they are the ones who have the right idea. I also believe they were safe during the great flood, because of where they live and other reasons.

I have a feeling that TD is what I have been told about and I am going to call my guidance for validity. Since 1980 it has been 100% right, even if I thought that I knew better.

It takes determination at first but if you cling to the ankle of God, so to speak, even if he turns and trys to walk away from you saying he doesn't know you. Hang on for all you are worth, keep asking forgiveness of your sins and being on your knees helps also. It took quite a while for me to connect the first time, but it does work.

If you think it is bunk, it might not work, because it does take a pure, honest heart for this link to work.

If you try this, you might just be treated to the ride of your life. If we could get one or two others to have this experience, that may open the door a bit wider, letting more light in, so we can all see a bit more clearly.



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 11:52 AM
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Thank you very much for your post!! I am very curious about your story, but wanted to say first that your posting here adds significantly to TD's claims (I don't like the word "claims", but it will suffice).

I really appreciate that, and I know TD will be excited when he reads your post!

You said something that made me think of sleeper's thread (which I am reading with interest),



It takes determination at first but if you cling to the ankle of God, so to speak, even if he turns and trys to walk away from you saying he doesn't know you. Hang on for all you are worth, keep asking forgiveness of your sins and being on your knees helps also.


Very interesting point. I myself have gone through spiritual struggles for answers; I mean spiritual, mental, psychological, emotional - any way you can think of confronting your own reality. If you want truth you may not necessarily have to fight, dig and claw for it, but it seems people refuse to believe there's an easy way to it LOL

But your comments there reminded me of something sleeper said in his thread, "I'm coming clean on Extraterrestrials." (LINK) He was speaking in response to a poster who asked,



Other then video games is there really anything worth living for?


Sleeper responded,



If I was to give any advice to you it would be to get on your knees day and night until whatever you have brought upon yourself from this life or previous one was lifted off you.


Interesting connection. Maybe not...

I would like to say that with regard to our reality, our universe, so-called "religion" has no place.

It's not about religion. It's about our personal connection to and interaction with other beings and this universe. There is no name for that, and it is not best represented as a holy pecking order of humans, devils and angels, and a strict adherance to a code of rules that gets you up the ladder.

It's simply about self discovery, and this includes opening your heart and mind to accept and include every being and every aspect of this infinite universe, period. The representation of a "get ahead through better actions" type of system has mislead people too long.

The truth is, if you ask how to become closer to the truth, to ETs, and to the universe around you, begin by opening up, letting everything you've been taught and lead to believe fall away briefly and just experience what's around you.

Being sincere will create in you a sense of connectedness, and to me, as a consequence, compassion for others in this universe, which is what it's all about. If you are not sincere and go about it half-a**ed you will get half-a**ed results. But anything's better than nothing LOL

I would definitely like to hear more from win 52 about his experiences, because they have bearing on TD's claims. If you see correlations here I say let them fly (hoping that's in accord with the ATS T&C).

Thank you, win 52, and syrinx high priest, for being sincere and for posting your thoughts.

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posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
so you expect people to believe jesus and elvis and slayer will be at this concert, and that's not a joke ?

TD. Did you fashion your story after reading about Titor and project serpo ?

Care to elaborate on how you lost the physical evidence that would prove both abductions stories are true, and time travel is possible ?

I don't think its a stretch to say such an artifact would be more valuable than the holy grail.

One last piece of advice, there's another hoaxer on your website, billy meier. Titor, serpo, Meier. That's like a hoax convention

syrinx high priest,
well, I did not realize the almighty expert that "knows the truth" is here.
so why dont you tell me then, if you already "know" why bother asking any questions? I am sorry, but at this point I am skipping your posts, especially if your going to point the hoax finger at anyone, no one can prove anything to you, even if proof slapped you across the tooth, you would most likely still not beleive it.

remember this, no one here truly "knows", everyone here is guessing and searching and that includes you.

there is nothing wrong with questioning me but now your nit picking and border line insulting.

thanks for reading my book, but if you do not like, there is no rule you have to.

peace be with you syrinx high priest!



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 01:02 PM
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Onthe deck and win 52,
I just wanted to thank you again for your kind words and being open minded to something that seems so crazy to even myself, I feel like I am here on a "just in case" basis, although the revelation onthedeck and I seem to discover these days make me very confident, proof is in the pudding, but I am very excited to hear your experience win52 especially if you say you have been shown this knowledge.

I am trying my best to remain patient, but I can not help be excited for what the future holds, even if we do have to fight a little bit for it, it is worth it, to put an almost never ending smile on my face is worth it.

onthedeck and win 52, you are my people and I hope I am yours too!



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 01:24 PM
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*group hug* LOL

I know you're sincere. And there's so much to your story that isn't being made available here.

For example, aside from what I see as some confirmation from win 52, there are two others who have credible abduction experiences who also confirm a big event you see as coming to pass.

Since you and I have met, you have described on numerous occasions, a concert event that includes ET craft, music, people making an appearance that we thought had long since been dead, including Jesus, and you maintain with conviction that you feel this will indeed come to pass.

This issue alone has been corroborated by these other two individuals who I find very credible. You discovered this quite by accident when you interviewed both of these people. They both revealed to you that they had foreseen a phenomenal (to say the least) concert event.

The individuals in question, Bonnie from alienabductionhelp.com, and Martin from aliendoodles.com, both recounted the same event.

In Bonnie's case, she had an abduction experience where her ET abducters told her they were taking her to a concert, an event that presumably was to show her that not only would she not come to harm, but would be a revelation and celebratory experience. Martin said he also recalled this event, but not in the detail with which you continue to describe it.

When I heard these in your interviews I was blown away. It made me sit up and take notice - not that I hadn't up to that point. There are still family, friends, coworkers, strangers, celebrities, school teachers (hehe), and more who collectively paint a startling picture of a lifetime of contact - with YOURSELF and ETs.

Your story is fascinating, and I'm excited to be a part of it. What comes out on these message boards is only the tip of the iceberg, but that's only temporary as far as I'm concered...In good time it will all get out...



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 04:06 PM
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Sorry TD, I apologize.

I took it too far, I should not have made my posts personal.



I guess I just soooooooooooooooooo wish I had been posting on the board timetraveller_0 posted on while he was posting


These boards bring out the worst in me sometimes, I'm always up for a banging debate, but getting personal is just uncalled for.

My bad.

SHP



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 04:58 PM
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Just a note....after that last post, I downloadad TD's book. After reading to page 51, I am sitting here with tear filled eyes. They are tears of joy.

I have to go out now, but I just wanted to let people know that all of the things making up my current belief have grounds for existence.

It may take some work and prayer on my part, to get what my future plans are.

All I know is that we are close to big changes for the better, all around. I will try and put the pieces of info I have left in various threads here in ATS together. I will say at this time that my real wake up call came on July 14, 2005 and the following 6 weeks.

The edit.....just so you know.....I wrote the above post, without reading between the last two posts I have made.....how strange is that?

#2...the bit on what sleeper said about being down on your knees...that alone made me believe what sleeper was saying, because that is it folks...the bottom line....(you need to ask the people you have harmed by your actions, to forgive you...if that is no longer possible, then you need to work even harder for your freedom by doing things to help strangers .... freedom from the guilt you will have....from the voice in my head as I was writing and asking for explinations) That hapens a lot these days. At times the pills are bitter for me also.
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posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 05:23 PM
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win 52, I wanted to say thank you so much for posting! I'm really glad to see that something positive has come out of TD's book and experiences - and the fact that it's struck a chord with you!

We are all reading here, and I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say.

Thank you, sincerely.

Also, syrinx high priest, I know I speak for TD, but I really respect you for posting your last post. It's all good. TD has a very, very far out story, and he's obviously going to come under fire for posting these things. It's a risk.

In the beginning (four whole months ago LOL) I would have been more apt to kind of feel reluctance about him posting certain things, but now my thought is, "Throw it all out there! Toss it all in!" Not that he would have listened to me LOL

But your post was appreciated. Thank you for your sentiments.

Now, let's see where this all goes...

Peace!



posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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Hi. Just signed up today. Haven't read every page of this yet, definitly going to though, but I had one question... Is it too late to volunteer?


Sorry for double posting.
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posted on Feb, 23 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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Hi. Just signed up today. Haven't read every page of this yet, definitly going to though, but I had one question... Is it too late to volunteer?



posted on Feb, 24 2007 @ 03:02 AM
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hi....

ok i have a question about the machine... - whos the guy/girl who made it and what is his/her name

what are the machines called

how are they sold or are they stolen

do u have them with you
right now?

are ther any life forms in earths inner crust that havent been found (bye life forms i mean like human like creatures)
well right now im just brain dead so ill think of som'more lata
bye



posted on Feb, 24 2007 @ 03:20 AM
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even though some of your story does sound crazy ( im not being mean but u know what i mean lol ) i still can beleive what your saying is true. bcus for 1 most of the time i dont beleive stuff like this but idk i just wanna beleive this 1 so of course i am lol. also i was wondering where i can find your book im going to read that at school. ( yes im in school very young =[ only 14 ) and from what ive seen win 52 or 51 i cant remember 4 sure now has made it seem like an extremely good book etc


in the (concert) thing w/e it is i wondered wher would u think it will be located?

and from what youv said about how jesus and all them will be ther.. i just started 2 beleive in him a little more. never thought it was possible.

win 52 i have a question so how u say ur not like religious i would like to know how u would purify thy self bcus im going to try and see what happens (sounds stupid but im serious)

... ok now this is kinda a new topic------- hav u people heard of tk? telekenisis, well i feel that i can sort of do that now bcus ive found this psi wheel thing and now i can spin it thinking about it (i know im amazing)

ok back on topic kinda

ok um... i have a question

how would one know they'v been contacted by aliens bcus i feel i must be because i am one in a bunch around wher i live who actually beleives it> i kno its real- hav any tips for finding out?
kk ill post mor later im tired lol



posted on Feb, 24 2007 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by timedrifter
[1)elvis will be performing at the concert indeed as I said in my book. dont think he ever died. dont know about the ET thing, could be I guess.
2)JFK was convinced to disclose the truth and the blockers/controllers stepped in, same thing with abe lincoln and both will also be at the concert.
3)duty is to defend the good of earth human kind which to me, at this point, earth humans are a one of a kind mixed bag of nuts.

to be breif with your rights, it is your right to decline any mission proposed to you and walk away at any time as a volunteer and come back if you want to as well, but the door is not revolving, there is always a chance of rejection based on past, present or future knowledge.

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Are there any past historical events that had been significantly affected/altered by time travelers?

In Q3 u said there are missions that maybe be terrible/pleasant when volunteers may sometimes refuse to join, would you explain some examples of these types of mission?

Do you wear any watch while on mission? Does it gonna work if you bring back a 2007 cell phone to the 80s?



posted on Feb, 24 2007 @ 04:17 PM
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win 52 i have a question so how u say ur not like religious i would like to know how u would purify thy self bcus im going to try and see what happens (sounds stupid but im serious)


I may not go to church, but I very much believe in our Creator and in Jesus.

In most religions you need to confess sins....the worst sins we can do to cause our experience to be darkened is to do things that harm or are negative to other human beings.

You need to ask those humans you have caused hardships for, to forgive you and you need to in some way repay the damage you have caused. That may be anything from physical to mental damage.

You have to try and right the wrongs you are responsible for.

For a 14 yr old that may be a lot more easy than for a 54 yr old man.

Value your parents because they love you the same as what God loves you. I think you will understand this when you have your own children. There are times when parents seem like they are bad and sometimes they have given in to darkness......."You will know what is in peoples hearts because of what they do and how they live their day to day life".....that was from the voice in my head as I was writing, and it is so simple it is almost sick.

There is a lot of good wisdom in the bible, even though darkness has tried to cover it up.

When it says you need to be borne again of the spirit, being baptized is a form of going to the grave and then being reborn in the spirit. That was when I first saw glimpses of the new world, the choir of angels and my first meeting with God himself. It is through Jesus's death on the cross that we can approach God in person on a one to one basis.

You need to recognise Jesus as your savior and it is through him that the world will come to order, people will stop taking advantage of each other and things will be better all around. You don't need to go to a church to do this. Gathering in a group is a good thing so that ones with more experience can help newer seekers find their way.

I am not sure exactly what it will be like, but honest people will be happy. The murderers, crooks and cheaters will not be happy. I have asked for clarification about this, but it seems to be kept from me for now.

It was something that I have worked at all my life. The connection that I have with God had to be worked for by me honestly asking and it also takes a lot of courage and faith on your part to believe and trust what is going on in your head.

Choose wisely what you ask for, because it just might be given to you.







 
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