Originally posted by chutso_ha
So the other guy involved was you? Yes, I'd definitely like to have more info on that. Thanks,
The Story of O.H. Krill and the infamous "Krill Papers"
John Grace was an Air Force enlisted man who worked at Nellis Air Force Base. He came over to my house one day in 1987. He told me he too, was
interested in UFO's and would like to share some information.
We shared information, traded videos, went all over Vegas chasing UFO and aliens stories and rumors.
One day John told that he had written a sort of 'estimate of the situation'. He wanted to put all we had discovered, or thought we had discovered
into an essay. He titled it "A Situation Report On Our Acquisition Of Advanced Technology And Interaction With Alien Cultures.
A SITUATION REPORT ON OUR ACQUISITION OF ADVANCED
TECHNOLOGY AND INTERACTION WITH ALIEN CULTURES
John asked me to think up a name for an author because he didn't want to use his real name because he was still in the Air Force.
I offered CRLLL who was an entity that a lady in the Pentagon had 'conversed' with. But I said lets change the spelling to Krill. John then came up
with the initials O.H.
The Krill papers were not a hoax. The were an honest 'Estimate of the Situation' as perceived by me and John Grace whose pen name became Val
The story that they were a hoax came from Chris Lambright, a close friend, who I was telling about an interview Bill Cooper and I did for PM Magazine
in Salt Lake City sometime in 1988. Bill Cooper told PM Magazine that he had seen the Krill Papers while in the Navy many years ago.
I got Bill alone in the living room and told him he was crazy that Val had written them less than 3 months previous to that interview. I further told
him that the name O.H. Krill was my idea because Val didn't want to use his real name as he was then on active duty with the USAF.
Cooper continued insisting he had seen the Krill papers in the Navy and that O.H. stood for Original Hostage.
The whole thing was bizarre.
A few weeks prior to this Bob Lazar had written a story about a missile the government was then developing called 'Excalibur' for deep underground
Cooper also told PM Magazine that he had seen Lazar's article in the Navy years prior.
That incident was the first time I actually stood in the Twilight Zone.
I told Chris Lambright that "Krill" came from CRLLL, an allegedly alien contact by the Pentagon in the middles 50's. And the "O.H." part was just
made up. Chris then said to me "Then it was a hoax?" I said "yes" referring to the name O.H. Krill. Chris made the assumption that I meant the
Chris shows up every once in a while here on ATS to renew his charges that John Grace and I created the Krill papers as a hoax. This is not true.
The only person ever to propose that I participate in a hoax was Jim Speiser of the original Paranet. He wanted to do a real good hoax and I told him
I would have no part of it.
John wrote and published Matrix 1 all of which came right off the top of my desk. I wish I had a copy but I gave the last one I had to my niece.
I still have a copy of Matrix 2 and Matrix 5. But Matrix 1 was the best.
I haven't heard from John in a few years, I hope he is doing well.
John left the Air Force and moved to Oregon. I haven't heard from John in a few years, I hope he is doing well.