Was the Bible's Goliath a real creature?

Originally posted by LeenBekkemaa
QueenoftheDamned, you say by this actually that the Angels and God are different. God is the almighty, and the angels he made. What however if the angels were God. You might say that God is just one person... but look at The Catholic Encyclopedia God is actually plural. Next to this there is also spoken of menkind created to the equal of elohim, in it's plural form. Next to this God is just a name just like Menkind, it is synonymous to all menkind, just like God is for all the angels.

Just look at Ezekiel chapter one, God is described in there. Doesn't look like the almightyness to me.

The angels of which you talk about are the Gods, also look at the Egyptian religion, Ra was just like the other Gods, and Seth and his angels lost, while Ra was just the head of the angels, doesn't mean he wasn't an angel himself.

What if the Gods are exactly the same as the angels?

I already knew that God was mentioned in the bible as being one of many.

Why stop at the Egyptian gods, for comparison, look at the Norse, Inuit, Greek, Roman, Celtic, and Indian, etc, all have multiple gods and lesser gods. all being worshipped before the bible. then look at them and run a similarity check with the bible, alot of coincidences run very parallel.

God did not sire the giants the Angels did. Therefore the angels and god are not the same.

I think Goliath would have made Shaq look like a midget.

Originally posted by SimpleTruth
Could not one of the reasons for the rebellion Christ was obviously a child of the human Mary but conceived by the holy spirit, so maybe a spirit doesn't even need physical form to impregnate.

True, if the bible is to be believed.

What is the saying think outside the box, I like to add think inside it too.

Taken literally basing on human couplings. The Angels must have been male, and therefore must have had sex with the female humans in order to produce the giants. As the bible infers the angels are all divine beautiful beings. These Angels must have been handsome and that is how they managed to seduce and procreate with the human females.

Now was god jealous of this, which suggests he was a she?

Now mary, my interpretation was Mary had sex out of wedlock,(bad girl) but she had a medical condition which meant she had a split vagina. On the surface of it she was a virgin on one side but not on the other. Reasonable theory?

Originally posted by Byrd


A race of giants would leave behind a LOT of artifacts, including not-easily-moved stones and tools. They would have to have had huge houses and huge pots and huge storehouses. You would find these artifacts in major museums, proudly labeled and on display.

There aren't any such artifacts because there wasn't a race of giants. Individuals, yes. Race, no.

The artifacts you speak of have been found....in droves. The problem is that they always mysteriously disappear. Giant artifacts stored at the Smithsonian have done so. There is a site in Arkansas where giant artifacts and bodies were found. The site was destroyed by the government along with the artifacts there. The powers that be do not want us to know about the widespread population of giants which inhabited the planet in ancient times.

For those of you with an open mind, from channelled sources at cassiopaea.org

Q: (L) These Nephilim, how tall were they again?
A: Up to 15 feet maximum.
Q: (L) Was Goliath, who was killed by David, one of the
Nephilim?
A: Yes. In legend. Actual event depicted in story was earlier.
Q: (L) Was it actually David and Goliath?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he actually slay him with a stone from a slingshot?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Were these Nephilim genetically intermixed with human
beings?
A: Temporarily.
Q: (L) Why only temporarily?
A: DNA conflict.
Q: (L) Were they smarter than us?
A: No.
Q: (L) Were they bigger and dumber?
A: No.
Q: (L) About the same?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was it difficult for them to live on our planet because of
their size and gravity and so forth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did they have physical problems here?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And when did the last of them die off?
A: 6000 BC Approximately. One reference.
Q: (L) When were they originally brought here?
A: 12000 BC approx. one reference. Please understand your
measurements don't make sense.

Originally posted by junglejake
Goliath was a giant among men. The Bible never gives his exact dimentions. It could have been a 7 foot guy really well built who was the best fighter their army had to offer. Andre was called a giant, but he wasn't 3-7 meters tall. Just huge compared to others.

King Arthur was another giant. He is forever immortalized from legend. I belive that these "Giants" weren't originally giants, just men of great renown who later became giants in their legends.

After all, even if a man is a great leader and warrior, it's still hard to look up to him or fear him if he's only average height.

God didnt create those giants (goliath, nepehilim), fallen angels (aliens) did. He destroyed them because they were nothing but evil.

Did you ever study classical architecture?

Notice the proportions of Greek and Egyptian and Roman Temples? Why such a large scale for such small people? Even today with our technology to make life easier we do not do this, even though it would be most gratifying to make buildings of epic proportions. There are people that suggest that the proportions exhibited in classical architecture are indicative of the nephilim.

Originally posted by THENEO
Did you ever study classical architecture?

Notice the proportions of Greek and Egyptian and Roman Temples? Why such a large scale for such small people? Even today with our technology to make life easier we do not do this, even though it would be most gratifying to make buildings of epic proportions. There are people that suggest that the proportions exhibited in classical architecture are indicative of the nephilim.

That's some point to make.

Hi all,
Foremost I agree with the relative agument in regards to height. The length FOOT in old times is always known to have varied depending on the ruler at the time, for it was the length of HIS foot. Therefore any measurements of goliaths height in the bible would be more or less useless.

Second, check out this link, for it describes how Goliaths skull has been found. It is large and actually STILL had the rock embedded in it, and also had bore evidence of having been severed from the body to which it once belonged. It was found in the location to which the bible refers too as well. It has also been dated to around the correct time.

THE LINK:
www.hope-of-israel.org...