Survival Rifle, page 2
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reply posted on 14-12-2006 @ 11:04 AM by sacrifice
I would agree that diversity is key, as is the need to keep your gun selection to the more common calibers. My main choices are .22 pistol and rifle, a .38/.357 revolver and lever action rifle (which also shoots 9mm if necessary) which is perfect for my wife as it is light and accurate, a 30.06 rifle, 9mm pistol, and my AR-15. In survival situations I would leave my other weapons, including my shotguns and heavy rifles, such as a .300 Win Mag, at home.

I love shooting bows and have several, but I have to disagree with those who think they are good survival choices. With a rifle, most game falls where shot if your shot placement is correct. With a bow, most (large) game runs and requires one to do some searching to find the kill, which is not really a good survival strategy. Additionally, I can carry a few hundred rounds in the space it takes to carry two-dozen arrows, and arrows break and are very easily lost. It is also impossible to make arrows for high pull-weight compound bows - try making (i.e., home made from back-yard trees) a wooden arrow and shooting it with a compound bow - it will most likely shatter injuring the shooter. Also, gun is faster if multiple shots are required, has longer range making it easier to target game, and can be sucessfully handled by all individuals, which is important if the owner of the bow is incapable of using it (i.e., if you are injured and your wife/child/weaker partner needs to hunt to eat, and your bow has a 60 lb pull weight - you will starve).


reply posted on 14-12-2006 @ 02:52 PM by jaguarmike
can't be more than a g....

SLPEXE



reply posted on 14-12-2006 @ 07:08 PM by 2stepsfromtop
I kind of like this Calico 9mm Carbine.

That and a good Bow or Crossbow would serve me well.

As far as 'loading' the arrow or bolt tips, have you thought about Ricin?


reply posted on 14-12-2006 @ 10:41 PM by Vekar
All out warfare, well I would hope to be long gone too, however as stated I have to get past without question at LEAST 2000 other people in my area first. For that I need the assualt rifle, besides if I want to hunt game a 5.56 NON-ARMOR PIERCING round will do just find, soft lead not iron or steel core. However due to versatility I can switch to armor piercing and take on armored foes just fine or should they decide to hide behind something...
I would think in my area a rifle shot going off after a distaster of magnitude where I HAVE to bug out would draw little to no attention, especialy around here. Besides which, I do not mind the "big-bang" that follows, because if I have to fire, it is already to late. Besides I have a knife, swords and other melee weapons to use if I want to be silent.

As someone else said, a compoud MODERN bow would do a world of good IF IT HAD THE PROPER CONSTRUCTION. A lot of what we get on the market today is that cheap Chinese junk that lasts less than a year. If I had a bow I would prefer USA or Japanese made, along with a quiver of 100 aluminum shaft, steel arrow head arrows. The 100 will cover any bends or breaks. Not much to worry about though, after the first guy/gal goes down I doubt the others will be very eager about sticking around since they only have a rough idea of which direction the arrow came from.
A friend of mine had a special longbow made and he showed it to me once, however what I remember most was his string, he had two "fluff balls" attached that dampened the "twang" sound when fired so it was completely silent.


reply posted on 15-12-2006 @ 08:50 AM by jaguarmike
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Niiiiiiiiice. This comes in 308. A review I read said the classic "scout" scope for this is really only awesome in the middle of the day, so opt with a conentional American styled scope.

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reply posted on 15-12-2006 @ 09:57 AM by kozmo
...But would elect to take only 3 of them with me if I neded to bug out. First I would take my Mossberg 590A-mil 12 guage shotgun. It is the same shotgun used by the US military and has been field tested to the most rigorous standards. There is some additional info on the 500 series here. This link only shows the 500 series, you have to look a little bit to find a 590A, but they are available. Forget the Super-magnum chamber and just elect for the standard 2.75" and magnum 3" chamber as rounds are much more readily available. This weapon is perfect for hunting game, large or small, or for protection. It is affordable at around $400(us). I have modified mine with a Knoxx SpecOps stock with pistol grip and Hogue grip and Knoxx forend. You can see it here. Not only does it make the weapon shorter for transport, it has 2 recoil damping springs for improved accuracy and fatigue reduction.

My second rifle would be my Sig556. The SigArms 556 is a super badass rifle.

Here it is! This baby is a tried and true and fires the 5.56 NATO round. It will fire either the 5.56 OR the .223 (With some loss in accuracy at range due to the narrow casing). Here in the US, an AK or any 7.62 chambered rifle would be nearly worthless for survival unless you have a huge stockpile of rounds. The 5.56 is the standard round of the US military and it's NATO allies and is slightly smaller and lighter than it's 7.62 cousin with very, VERY little loss in performance. The rounds will be widely available in a crisis in comparison to 7.62. This is a ranged weapon with assault characteristics. It would suffice for hunting large game at range OR in fending off assault forces at range.

Finally, my sidearm would be my Sig P229 .40S&W. Again, a tried and true firearm and preferred choice of the Secret Service, US Coast Guard, Homeland Security Dept., US Marshalls, and countless law enforcement personnell nationwide. It is accurate and reliable. the .40S&W is the same as a 10mm and will fire either round (Although the 10mm is slightly less accurate through this sidearm). I have had no problem finding rounds for this piece and prefer the Federal Hydro-shock rounds.

As someone before me stated, firearms are like golf clubs, you need a different one for different situations - a ranged weapon like my 556 is like a wood, my shotgun is like an iron and my sidearm is like my putter. Each one serves it's purpose!

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