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reply posted on 5-12-2006 @ 01:10 PM by Majic
"It Burns! It Burns!"

I know this is the complaint thread, and I certainly don't want to interrupt a good round of bashing, but I do want to point out some things and offer a glimmer of hope:

- Everything is in a state of flux right now as the Overlord tweaks a whole bunch of settings.

- If you see black-on-black or gray-on-gray text combinations that seem impossible to read, it's probably not you, but a transitional state.

- There are a LOT of settings to tweak, and when one changes, it can affect others.

- Doing all this live might seem nuts, and it will disrupt things during the transition, but it allows getting a lot of quick feedback that wouldn't otherwise be available.

- Going from a generally light theme to a generally dark theme is a major, MAJOR transition. Everything from avatars to ads can have an impact on the overall appearance of the site.

- It will take a while to get everything "dark friendly", but once that's done, I think a lot of the additional concerns will have been addressed.

- SO has indicated that there will eventually be some degree of customization of the appearance of things like text to offer more choices to members who may have trouble with the default. In fact, check this out.

Most importantly, we ARE listening to your feedback, so please try not to get too frustrated with the process.

Despite some teething pains and transitional issues, I suspect most (if not all) members who are not happy with the new theme may well come to like it.

And if not, we'll work on that, too.


reply posted on 5-12-2006 @ 03:05 PM by Voxel
Originally posted by intrepid
I guess he missed sites like this one.


See the forum there is just a small part of that site and not THE site. The objective at EA is 1) to sell games and 2) to support the customers. Selling games is basically the same as selling music or movies and those sites usually have a dark/black background. Notice that the support section of EA's site is nice and white because that part of the site has completely different functionality (selling crap vs. telling crap.)

Now as BH said, this is a work in progress. Changes of this magnitude need tweaking. That being said, the look of ATS is changing, our policies haven't. Let's discuss this politely.


True and the most nagging design problems can be fixed by overridding the CSS. I'm just trying to figure out if I can get the design to stretch to the window size because the way it is now is really a bad thing, in my opinion.

Jon


reply posted on 5-12-2006 @ 03:50 PM by rich23
OK, upfront: I realise that this is a work in progress, and these are just some issues I'd like to see addressed in the fullness of whatever.

I also have a large blank grey space to the right of my window.

The ability to edit my posts seems to have gone walkies.

I also used the "threads in progress" section, and it has been reduced to too few threads, IMO.

How can one tell emboldened white text from links if links are in bold white text?

I too am in late middle age and it would be nice if the text, generally, was just a teeny tiny bit larger... I suspect the three amigos are no longer in the first flush of youth and may only be a few years away from having to take off their glasses to read text. To the person who said, "GET GLASSES"... just you wait. Time catches up with all of us and weird things happen to your body. You'll see what some of us are complaining about, in time, and why your exhortation is not, in fact, a solution.

On the general look and feel: I don't care as much about it as I do about functionality, but actually... sorry, guys, hate to say it, but I'm not that keen. ATS was never a particularly artistic-looking site, and it still isn't, and that's fine, because I'm here to learn and debate, not to get my graphic jollies. But I'm really not that keen on the tiny, fussy, not-terribly-readable icons for the various boards and for the taskbar at the top of each page. The different coloured folders simply make the icons themselves harder to read: for me, the "rainbow" look was informative but uncluttered: and uncluttered is good even if it offends some viewers' aesthetic sensibilities.


reply posted on 5-12-2006 @ 04:42 PM by intrepid
Originally posted by byhiniur
You can't see links which are encased in an external source box when you select either dark or darkest, i like the darkest style but can't be bothered to keep switching between the selections. I hope this a part of the work in progress. Nice idea to include the scale, lightest is pretty much old ATS style.

Edit:


Example...


I've been playing with the settings and with "light" I see everything. Even "Example" is totally clear.

Originally posted by Voxel
Originally posted by intrepid
I guess he missed sites like this one.


See the forum there is just a small part of that site and not THE site. The objective at EA is 1) to sell games and 2) to support the customers. Selling games is basically the same as selling music or movies and those sites usually have a dark/black background. Notice that the support section of EA's site is nice and white because that part of the site has completely different functionality (selling crap vs. telling crap.)



Um, no. Check it out. That part of the site is designed for members to talk(blog). Ie: print, what your buggaboo seemed to be all about.
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