Originally posted by 11Bravo
Originally posted by Valhall
Okay, but it obviously wasn't hauling toilet seats either. Whatever the C130's mission was, it was classified to the point that the Attorney
General launched the largest and most exhaustive investigation in U.S. history (that's his words, not mine) and for more than 2 weeks the existence
of the C130, and the fact it had identified two crashes of planes hijacked by terrorists was unknown to everyone, INCLUDING THE PENTAGON, because
whatever mission between Washington DC and Minnesota it was on was deemed so classified even the Pentagon couldn't know about it.
Im sorry I dont have that one in my data base and I missed the link if it came up earlier, so could you please give a source for this info?
I'm not sure which part of what I said you were saying you didn't have in your database, so I'll address all of it.
From page 30 of the 911 Commission Report:
United 93 crashed in Pennsylvania at 10:03:11, 125 miles from Washington,
D.C. The precise crash time has been the subject of some dispute.The 10:03:11
impact time is supported by previous National Transportation Safety Board
analysis and by evidence from the Commission staff ’s analysis of radar, the flight
data recorder, the cockpit voice recorder, infrared satellite data, and air traffic
control transmissions.168
Five minutes later, the Command Center forwarded this update to headquarters:
Command Center: O.K. Uh, there is now on that United 93.
FAA Headquarters:Yes.
Command Center: There is a report of black smoke in the last position
I gave you, fifteen miles south of Johnstown.
FAA Headquarters: From the airplane or from the ground?
Command Center: Uh, they’re speculating it’s from the aircraft.
FAA Headquarters: Okay.
Command Center: Uh,who, it hit the ground.That’s what they’re speculating,
that’s speculation only.169
The aircraft that spotted the “black smoke” was the same unarmed Air
National Guard cargo plane that had seen American 77 crash into the Pentagon
27 minutes earlier. It had resumed its flight to Minnesota and saw the
smoke from the crash of United 93, less than two minutes after the plane went
down. At 10:17, the Command Center advised headquarters of its conclusion
that United 93 had indeed crashed.170
And by the way, footnote 170 is important as well:
170. For 10:17 discussion, see ibid., p. 34. For communication regarding “black smoke,” see FAA memo,“Full
Transcript; Aircraft Accident; N591UA (UAL93) Somerset, PA; September 11, 2001,” May 10, 2002, pp. 16–18
(Cleveland Center, Imperial Radar position).This report from the C-130H was recorded on ATC audio about 1
minute and 37 seconds after the impact time of United 93 as established by NTSB and Commission analysis of
FDR, CVR, radar, and impact data sets—more than a minute before the earliest impact time originally posited by
the authors of the seismic data report.
Actually the Commission is being misleading with this footnote.
TWO seismic reviews were performed by
TWO separate groups of
seismologists. The first stated the impact was at 10:06:05 a.m. The Pentagon didn't like that, because it didn't go with the 10:03 time they
wanted to publish, so they hired a second group of seismologists to review the seismic record. That group came back with an impact time of 10:06:05
a.m. The commission report states impact time at 10:03:11 despite these two independent reviews.
As to the classified report of the C-130 and it remaining unknown to the Pentagon during the first weeks of the investigation: The news was first
reported of the C-130 witness to the Pentagon strike on October 17, 2001 on Daily Press.
dailypress.com...
You have to have a subscription to access the archives to get to that Daily Press article. But the article is lifted here:
www.ratical.org...
I'll quote the pertinent statements:
Tuesday, he was pleased to hear the military is finally verifying what he's been telling people.
Wheelhouse and at least two other witnesses to the Pentagon attack were troubled that Pentagon spokesmen had until now said they were unaware of a
C-130 being in the area at the time.
"So I wasn't losing my mind," he said.
In the days immediately following the Sept. 11 hijackings, the Pentagon had no knowledge of the C-130's encounter, because all reports were
classified by the Air National Guard, the Pentagon spokesman said.
Please note the Pentagon had stated until the week of October 17 they did not know of the C-130..."because all reports were classified by the Air
National Guard". That's almost 5 weeks.
[edit on 9-15-2006 by Valhall]
good job 
.Looks like the skeptics and the govt debunkers got owned big time.i salute you jack
tripper.keep up the good work