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Latino Activists Record US anthem in Spanish?

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posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 03:30 PM
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Personally, I'm not offended about Roseann singing the National Anthem, either. And I really don't care how the new Anthem comes out. It doesn't take away from me, who I am, my place in my country or my patriotism.

In my opinion, people hold too much value on a song, a flag, a symbol. It's just a thing. Why get all bent out of shape because somebody doesn't use this thing the way you think they should?

What harm is there? C'mon, shots, it's not like it's a CARTOON!


Think of what we'd be missing out on without the Spanish/Mexican/Latin culture...

Mexican restaurants
Christina Aguilera
Salsa! The dance and the food!
Jennifer Lopez
Tequila
Mexican Archetecture
Saltillo Tile
Dos XX

The truth is, without all the cultural and historical influences of foreign countries, Germany, Spain, Italy, Mexico, the US would be as dull as a mud-covered stick. And that's the ugly brown truth.




posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by shots
It would be completely different if they just made a Spanish translation like the French did with O Canada but that is not the case and even the French did not change the beat of their anthem.

A cultural note of interest (to nobody but me):

The French version of Oh Canada is the original version.

We've changed the English version several times. So many times that our government had to authorize an official English version so that we were all singing the same thing. I had to relearn the anthem when I was 10 because we sang a different version in my province.



As long as they don't mess with the words, why is it a big deal?



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 03:36 PM
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Also, consider a hypothetical situation, in which the US economy has collapsed, and poor americans from the midwest have emigrated to mexico. Would it really be all that devious if they made up a country version of the Mexican National anthem, and played it at their bars? Is the onyl reason for doing such a thing because you are involved in a plot to takeover mexico?



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Its a shame people can be so narrowminded.


And it's a shame that some people can't take disagreement without assuming that their detractors are "narrow minded." Grow up, dg, petty insults don't win arguments, instead, they make you look as if you have no logical resort. If you can't argue your point with your intellect (rather than your labeling and dismissal of others), move on to a different issue.


Originally posted by dgtempe
I will add: Supposing it will be recorded because of the imigration problem;
SO? Unless the words are disrespectful and/or totally changed, (which i would be livid about) what the heck is the problem???


It is not being recorded because of the "imigration problem." It is being recorded to SUPPORT the immigration problem. It is being recorded to PROMOTE the immigration problem. Forget the words, DG, the title has been changed. They are calling, what is for all intents and purposes supposed to be a song to unite the entire CITIZENRY of the United States, "our anthem." It is not "their anthem." It is the anthem of the United States of America. It is disrespectful to use it for such a purpose, in the same way that most would consider it disrespectful to burn an Amercian flag as a protest.


Originally posted by dgtempe
Some of you should stop the hate. I am NOT for illegal imigrants in this country, and yes something should be done.
But what's a song but not a good memory of something you like? Unless its country and Western, of course.


And some of you should stop assuming that others "hate" just because we take issue with criminals, or because we don't appreciate the usurpation of our national anthem in order to make a point or increase support for a cause that is, by definition, anti-American and criminal.

Think for a minute about "their" purpose. Think about what the article says and what it means. Then try to think about why some people would dislike it. Finally, try to imagine dislike of an action and hatred of a person as two distinct entities. For most people, regardless of your assertions to the contrary, that's exactly what they are.



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 03:51 PM
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Hamburglar,

To each his own. Wow, you paint me as if i am a total idiot. (my words, not yours, but the insinuation is there).

I brought up Roseanne, because it upset me that an AMERICAN would make a ridiculous song like that for all the world to see. As an American, i had an issue with that. There was no respect in that song, as sung by her.

I am saying that if the latin community (of which i am not part of, my husband, my children, everyone left in my family is American, born and raised here) wants to have a Spanish song, and have the exact SAME WORDS as we do, and they do a rendition with respect, there is no need to get so hot under the collar.


BTW, do any of you even know that Roseanne grabbed her private parts during said song?


[edit on 24-4-2006 by dgtempe]



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 04:06 PM
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Apparently my original post went unnoticed, so I have to repeat it...

This is coming from PUERTO RICO, part of the UNITED STATES that is unincorporated, not a State, and SPEAKS SPANISH!

I may be one of the most anti-Latino immigration people around (to the mainland, where they dont seem to want to integrate into our society), but I see no problem with this. In this case, they are part of the U.S. and should be able to sing its anthem in their own language.

[edit on 4/24/2006 by djohnsto77]



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
The truth is, without all the cultural and historical influences of foreign countries, Germany, Spain, Italy, Mexico, the US would be as dull as a mud-covered stick. And that's the ugly brown truth.


I could have not have said it better myself. Variety is the spicy of life. The new Latin version is simply a remix; no more, no less.



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
Apparently my original post went unnoticed, so I have to repeat it...

This is coming from PUERTO RICO, part of the UNITED STATES that is unincorporated, not a State, and SPEAKS SPANISH!



Actually DJ, it is coming from more then just Puerto Rico, They are also recording in New York, Miami, Los Angeles, Mexico City and Madrid.



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by shots


Let me ask you this? Would you go into the UK and mock God Save the Queen or disrespect it in any way? My guess if you did the Brits would string you up in an instant because they do not like it when you make fun of the queen in any way.




Er.. you've heard of the Sex Pistols, right? They did their own version of God Save the Queen, and it was one of the bestselling UK singles of its day.

Frankly I've never met a people which is better capable of self-mockery then the British. And as for making fun of the Queen.. just watch some British TV!


[edit on 24-4-2006 by koji_K]



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by koji_K

Er.. you've heard of the Sex Pistols, right? They did their own version of God Save the Queen, and it was one of the bestselling UK singles of its day.


[edit on 24-4-2006 by koji_K]


Boy things sure must have changed since the late fifties to mid 60s. Back then they were all over anyone who even spoke out against the queen.

We were in London for a weekend once and one of my buddies got tanked up (that's Drunk) and started to put her down. Good god the Brits jumped all over him in no uncertain terms. The Barkeep also called the bobbies on him and it was not a pretty scene at all.

Also I think it is unfair to compare this to what is happening here where the majority are from Latin countries. That is assuming the six pistols are a UK group.

[edit on 4/24/2006 by shots]



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 05:09 PM
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All people have their own unique heritage of which they are proud, however, the shared heritage of humanity should take precedence in my view. Likewise, music consists of a seemingly infinite number of roots, but ultimately what matters is the shared "family tree" of music as a whole.

While commercialism and shallowness has long threatened it and probably always will, music remains one of a dwindling number of expressive art forms capable of articulating the subtle nuances or emotion that words are often too unwieldy to express.

Personally, I don't recognize genre or cultural musical style. I acknowledge them, and deeply respect the heritage different cultures keep close to their heart musically, but for me, music is music, just as people are people. I also don't believe in race, which is something many people find distasteful because they take that to mean I don't respect their individual heritage. That isn't the case at all. On the contrary, I have a profound appreciation for it. However, as I said at the beginning of this post, the shared heritage of humanity must take precedence.

I see nothing wrong with the national anthem being expressed in a new or distinctly Latin style. People have reinterpreted the national anthem for a long, long time. This is nothing new. There's no more wrong with this than there is with this (fast forward to 0:52 seconds.) What matters is the intent. If the intent is to "take over" parts of the country as some claim, then that obviously isn't necessarily a peaceful or harmonious intent. If the intent is to express the fact that they are as much a part of America as anyone else - and indeed, an integral part of America, which they are (including illegal immigrants. Like it or not, they have become an integral part of our national economy and the culture of the very deep south) - then I see nothing wrong with this. Because I seriously doubt any of my foreign brothers and sisters seek to "take over" this country, I think this will be a beautiful new interpretation of this country's anthem, and I have no problem with it.

As always, I respect the views of those who disagree, of course.



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 05:11 PM
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I see people with irish, norwegian, and confederate flags. I don't see any outrage for the other nationality flag waving.

Double standard, NOOO WAAYYY!



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 05:46 PM
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meh, words are words, regardless of what language they're in.

i'd be more upset if they made up a new anthem exclusively for Latino-Americans.

the flag thing doesn't really bother me either; it might bug me to see a Mexican flag flown by itself at a home or business, but the only thing that would really piss me off is to see a Mexican flag flown over an American flag.

now, I'm assuming for the most part that the flag-waver and/or anthem-singer in question is a legal, documented immigrant to the United States. under other circumstances, my opinions tend more toward the deportationish side of things.



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 05:58 PM
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I love this!

"I want to be an American, now Submit to Mexico or die!!!!!"

"I want to be an American, as I wave the Mexican flag, speak only Spanish, and want Texas, Southern California, Arizona, and everywhere else in the south invaded by Mexico."

"I want to be an American while I send money to Mexico, and of course I want whitey to move out of the land they won after a war we started... Viva La Mexico!"

"¡Me trasladé a América porque es México aspirado, pero ahora yo desea dar vuelta a América en el crap-agujero México!" Translated into
"I moved to America because Mexico sucked, but now I want to turn America into the crap-hole Mexico is!"



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by StarkMan

"I want to be an American while I send money to Mexico, and of course I want whitey to move out of the land they won after a war we started... Viva La Mexico!"



Excuse me!!!

I do not know what history book you are using????

Mine says "The Mexican War between the United States and Mexico began with a Mexican attack on American troops along the southern border of Texas on Apr. 25, 1846."



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Hamburglar
Grow up, dg, petty insults don't win arguments,


Petty insults like "Grow up"?



Originally posted by shots
Boy things sure must have changed since the late fifties to mid 60s.


Yes, they have. Join us, won't you?




Originally posted by StarkMan
"I want to be an American, now Submit to Mexico or die!!!!!"





posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by StarkMan
I love this!

"I want to be an American, now Submit to Mexico or die!!!!!"

"I want to be an American, as I wave the Mexican flag, speak only Spanish, and want Texas, Southern California, Arizona, and everywhere else in the south invaded by Mexico."

"I want to be an American while I send money to Mexico, and of course I want whitey to move out of the land they won after a war we started... Viva La Mexico!"

"¡Me trasladé a América porque es México aspirado, pero ahora yo desea dar vuelta a América en el crap-agujero México!" Translated into
"I moved to America because Mexico sucked, but now I want to turn America into the crap-hole Mexico is!"


For those of you who didn't "get it" it's saracasm. He/she is quoting illegal aliens. The idea is that they want to have all of our rights but remain Mexican. They make their point with the final statement. Sheesh!



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by shots
are also recording in New York, Miami, Los Angeles, Mexico City and Madrid.

Dear god man! They're coming from Mexico and Madrid? Why didn't you say so in the first place!!!! How are we going to save ourselves, don't you know what comes from mexico and madrid!!!!

Salma Hayek and Penelope Cruz! Its insidious!



Someone's going to have to take one for the team and defend america from these alien chicks!

I'm not normally one for self-sacrifice, but in this case, well, its just my patriotic duty!

Otherwise, they'll destroy this country, with their tasty food, fun music, and curvy women!! Arghhh!



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 08:12 PM
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Damn it Nygdan you had me staring at those pics for 20 minutes! ARGGH!


Seriously, and im usuallya pretty right-winged guy in most people's view, but if the take our national anthem and add a beat to it but dont change the words I cant help but feel a bit honored here.....*shakes that feeling off*

but you have to integrate once you become citizens!



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by shots

Originally posted by StarkMan

"I want to be an American while I send money to Mexico, and of course I want whitey to move out of the land they won after a war we started... Viva La Mexico!"



Excuse me!!!

I do not know what history book you are using????

Mine says "The Mexican War between the United States and Mexico began with a Mexican attack on American troops along the southern border of Texas on Apr. 25, 1846."


Pssst! Shots! He's saying the same thing you are...







 
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