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NEWS: 90 US Cities Targeted for Massive Immigrant Protests

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posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 12:24 PM
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Imagine the outcry over human rights if any country ejected 10 million people.

And imagine the effort needed to do that. Probably only the former Soviet Union or China could actually pull this off.

Yet, sadly, that is what polls show that the majority of Americans advocate.

What the protesters really need to do - and perhaps are not really targeting yet - is to change the minds of the American people - not Congress.

I think it is slowly dawning on the public though. Illegal immigrants now make up a significant percentage of the overall population, and a HUGE percentage of certain industries. Even if you COULD eject them, the effect on the economy would be devestating. It would be the biggest economic disaster in our history. The country would come to a stand-still.

The public needs to stop thinking in purist terms. Woulda coulda been nice to have secured the border. The reality, though, is that there are now 10 MILLION people here, most of whom we NEED for our country to function. We need to deal with them in a humanitarian way and acknowledge their contribution to our society. I think you have to just give them citizenship and move on.

While there are drug dealers and gun-runners among them, as a lot illegal immigrants are probably among the most law-abiding around. And then some. They can't AFFORD to get mixed-up with the law. This is one reason why big business loves the situation we have right now. They are able to exploit these people, who will accept working conditions and pay that no American citizen would accept.




posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
High school and college kids are getting paid
by their liberal schools to attend. They get
'school credit' for going.


Before I even bother with the rest of your posts, you got any information to back that up? Or is this going to be another claim, where no School or Student is named? Pesky liberals, hide like ninja.



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 12:38 PM
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everything is just falling apart at a faster and faster pace. i cant tell if this is really the problem or just a cover for the AT&T BS. they have to hide that stuff some how.

im just getting so tired of watching all this. and the biggest pity is my lack of way to do anything because im not considered an adult yet. If i was out of highschool, i would be doing something, but im not and nobody listens to a "kid". thats the sad part. you adults out there...im dissappointed in you. your not thinking about us...your thinking about you. you dont care about us or the littler kids on down.

Your suppose to represent our country because when the young innocent cant. instead you let us grow up in a world full of hate and fear, then you wonder why we are so screwed up. ill tell you why, because you let it happen with arms open. everytime i want to yell at a fellow peer because they dont care about anything and rather just smoke pot, not caring if they get killed today, i know its not their fault entirely. i know that its mostly your faults, for letting it get this way and letting us grow up like this. You wonder how this stuff could happen now? well just wait for another 10 years when these kids become adults. none of them care at all anymore, not about anybody or anything. they dont care what the government does. or at least they wont til its way too late. But thats on you. you raised us this way.

what can i say, what can i do, i dont know because even the people who are suppose to defend us, our parents of this nation dont want to do anything for us. what kind of message does that send us. you dont care, why should we? you just talk, so we see things like i guess its not that important since you guys will just deal with it.

Edit: Censor circumvention.

[edit on 10-4-2006 by intrepid]



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Aelita
By the way, are there any significant anti-illegal marches and/or other forms of protest?


There have been some, but the only mention they get is at the end of the story with one line type remarks. That too me indicates bias on the part of the media towards the illegals.


Yahoo.News

Our local news had some mention that now many of the Illegals are going to stage a French type demonstration where no one will work for that day just to show what impact they have on the economy.

Now if any other American staged and unauthorized walkout they would be fired on the spot. Unfortunately that will not be the case for the illegals because they work for so much less then Americans. :shk:



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Bay_Watcher
Imagine the outcry over human rights if any country ejected 10 million people.


We bombed Iraq and Serbia for little if any reason, and damned be the outcry.



And imagine the effort needed to do that. Probably only the former Soviet Union or China could actually pull this off.


Oh, if you are talking about job creation in the Law Enforcement sector, that could be a boon to the economy.



Even if you COULD eject them, the effect on the economy would be devestating. It would be the biggest economic disaster in our history. The country would come to a stand-still.


Erm.... No it would not. The economy would sag then defnitely adjust. Maybe some people would get in the habit of mowing their front lawns themselves. It's a good exercise. There will be less apples from Washington. I can live with that.

The majority of immigrants and probably ALL illegals don't speak English. This means they are not integrated in the core American industries (outside of agriculture). So if they leave, we'll survive that.



The public needs to stop thinking in purist terms.


You mean we should disregard our own definition of illegality and border security? How delirious is that.



Woulda coulda been nice to have secured the border. The reality, though, is that there are now 10 MILLION people here, most of whom we NEED for our country to function.


We don't . You sound like America needs a visiting nurse to wipe out her arse. This is demeaning. I know that contractors make a good buck buy hiring illegals for construction jobs and such. If they didn't hire them, there would be more opportunities for locals to get skills and jobs.



I think you have to just give them citizenship and move on.


Screw that. That is a disgrace to millions of people who follow the rules and go through the torment of the LEGAL process. Reward the criminals and move on? Yeah, right.


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posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 12:44 PM
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I am surprisd that no one has mentioned the upcoming elections. There is a decent chance that democrats could win back a majority this november, and I can't think of a better issue to stir up the republican base besides illegal immigration. Well, there is always gay marriage, but that was the strawman for the last major election.



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 12:48 PM
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And they have the guts to mock the iimigration policies -- quoted from Yahoo news:

"Asked whether she was afraid to parade her undocumented status in front of a massive police presence, she laughed and said: "Why? They kick us out, we're coming back tomorrow.""



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by shots
Now if any other American staged and unauthorized walkout they would be fired on the spot. Unfortunately that will not be the case for the illegals because they work for so much less then Americans. :shk:


Whose fault is that? It's unfair to blame the illegals for what Big Business will pay them or to blame them for wanting a better life. It's something we all want - especailly those with children, spouses or dependents of any nature. Also surely, if this does show up the power they have maybe Big Business might begin to hire American's instead? After all, if more and more immigrants strike they'll like the American workers once more.



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:06 PM
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You don't need any conspirecy to explain why these people are protesting...besides the mean-spirited and punative house bill that is. The simple truth is the vast majority of illegals risk their lives coming here, do jobs that Americans have become too fat, lazy or greedy to work, the very jobs that need to be done...and then we threaten them with a felony for being here. If the jobs weren't here, they wouldn't be coming in such large numbers. If there is blame to go around blame it on companies that want to pay as little s possible to get their jobs done. These people risk their lives to get here, do the crap work for a pitnence, then we get all hyper over them being here. The fact is the vast majority of illegals, by their very effort of getting here and doing what needs to be done, and sending the money home to support their families, show their very qualifications for citizenship.



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
These aren't 'immigrant' protests.
These are ILLEGAL immigrant protests.

High school and college kids are getting paid
by their liberal schools to attend. They get
'school credit' for going.



Boy I'm glad you clued me in I thought the young Republicans were mad because Duke had to drop Lacrosse.

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[edit on 10-4-2006 by intrepid]



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:10 PM
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by Bay_Watcher
We need to deal with them in a humanitarian way and acknowledge their contribution to our society. I think you have to just give them citizenship and move on.

And what contributions are you referring to? They don’t pay taxes or have health care, so guess who pays for the social services they receive? Because they don’t contribute, the cost is passed on to the rest of us. I would rather pay more for produce that was picked by a taxpayer, than pay more than my share for health care.



This is one reason why big business loves the situation we have right now. They are able to exploit these people, who will accept working conditions and pay that no American citizen would accept.

Your right the reason why the jobs they do are low paying is because employers have exploited these people and undercut the wage for those jobs and now no American can afford to work at those wages. If the pay was reasonable, they would not have any trouble finding Americans to do the work. All that needs to be done here is to enforce existing laws and fine those that employ illegals.

If we do allow them to stay legally, they would have to start paying taxes, and how long before they are going to want a raise? If they stay the price of goods will go up, and if we send them away the price of goods will go up. IMHO, this is a no win situation.


[edit on 4/10/2006 by Hal9000]



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:14 PM
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IMMIGRANTS protesting?! what? open borders or low dope prices?

This is insane, i mean it almost looks like the establishment failed to induce a reaction of the local populace and switched to plan B: let the immigrants do the agression, still good enough to generate turmoil. A destabilized society is very susceptible to totalitarian takeover (or simple 'mission creep' for that matter).

Wait 'till you see the reaction of the 'authorities' and you'll see what their preferences are



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
These aren't 'immigrant' protests.
These are ILLEGAL immigrant protests.

"High school and college kids are getting paid
by their liberal schools to attend. They get
'school credit' for going"





I am glad you clued me in I thought the young Republicans were marching to protest the fact that their Honduran maid pit too much starch in their collars and their cook from Equador used the good silver and their Mexican
gardener was mowing the lawn before noon.




Fixed BB code, again.

[edit on 10-4-2006 by intrepid]



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by grover
The simple truth is the vast majority of illegals risk their lives coming here


I'm very sorry that they risk their lives, but what does it have to do with legality and border security that they violated?



do jobs that Americans have become too fat, lazy or greedy to work, the very jobs that need to be done...


Look, I'm very sorry but it's demeaning to America to say that. It's our country and let us sort it out ourselves, and not ask our Spanish neighbors to so things for us. You know why? Because this way, if you are right at all, people will become even more fat, lazy etc.



and then we threaten them with a felony for being here.


Well, illegal border crossing is a serious crime in many jurisdictions around the world.



If the jobs weren't here, they wouldn't be coming in such large numbers.


And if they couldn's abuse the healthcare and education system in California and other places, they wouldn't be coming either.



These people risk their lives to get here, do the crap work for a pitnence, then we get all hyper over them being here.


Because we have a reason to.



The fact is the vast majority of illegals, by their very effort of getting here and doing what needs to be done, and sending the money home to support their families, show their very qualifications for citizenship.


Boy if I saw a crappy argument on this board, here is one. Let's argue that cocain smugglers are doing that for their families and sure enough send money back home. And "do what needs to be done".

You statement that breaking the law of the United States qualifies them for citizenship is nothing short of absurd.



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:23 PM
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OK polanski, we get the point.



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Odium
Whose fault is that? It's unfair to blame the illegals for what Big Business will pay them or to blame them for wanting a better life. It's something we all want - especailly those with children, spouses or dependents of any nature. Also surely, if this does show up the power they have maybe Big Business might begin to hire American's instead? After all, if more and more immigrants strike they'll like the American workers once more.



But it is not just Big companies anymore it is all companies.

America is going to hell in a hand bag real fast, we no longer have the standards we once did. Years ago if you wanted to be a carpenter, plumber, electrician, butcher etc., you had to take an apprenticeship and that is no longer the case. The Illegals also claim they are doing jobs that Americans will not and that is an out right lie.

I know many workers that once worked in the trades who can no longer get hired simply because the builder can hire anyone off a local street corner no questions asked if you can pound a nail you are hired.

Not what I call a good ethic on the part of the builders. :shk:

And it does not stop there. High school kids can no longer get summer jobs at fast food restaurants because illegals have been hired. What makes it even worse is now people who are unemployed that used to be able to get temporary jobs can't even get work. Why? Because any one that needs help just drives to a local corner where the Illegals set up shop and pick them up rather then go to the state to get employees that's why.

What makes it worse yet is we have the likes of President Clinton who hire illagals to drive their car. :shk:

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posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 01:50 PM
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I'm glad it's not just us in the UK with this problem.
One thing you have to remember, most illegal immigrants use organized crime to get into a country in the first place, paying thousands and then working illegally to pay off other illegal immigrants who make a shed load of money and live a life of luxury costing us, the tax payers!!



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 02:07 PM
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aelita...you don't answer a single thing in my post, yours is all attitude and nothing else. As for demeaning to America...wake up and smell the coffee. It is your repubican leadership who will do everything for bisuness and nothing for the little guy that has been tearing this country apart. And part of that has been sending jobs overseas for a quick buck and leaving the crap ones here at home. And yes we have become too fat, lazy and proud to stoop down and take a low paying job. Just look around you and see what is happening. It is a damned good thing we have a well trained standing military to fight for us cause the average joe on the streets wouldn't last 5 minutes in a war zone, no matter how big of a pick up truck he drives. From what i have seen in the Wal-marts and McDonalds of America, its a good thing we don't have a draft. And don't get your patriotic little panties all in a bunch over this, its true whether you like it or not. When an illegal alien will enlist to serve and a native born won't, something is seriously wrong.



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 02:10 PM
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"Undocumented Immigrants" as opposed to "Illegal Immigrants" what a joke. From your Neighbor in Canada, who by the way already has a passport and wouldn't feel insulted if asked for one at your border,I believe anypersons wishing to visit others countries should provide this document.

And anypersons wishing to live in another country should abide by all immigration laws issued from that country and have proof of legal status in order to reside there. If not they are breaking the law, AND WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT COUNTRY AS A TRUE CITIZEN.

Our government had a list of illegal Portugese immigrants, they were given 2 weeks to sell their homes, and say their goodbyes, then they were deported back to Portugal. No ifs and or buts. Maybe a little cutthroat for some, but were very well aware this could happen, they have only themselves to blame for not taking the responsibility to prevent this.

It is true like alot of other nations , immigration policy is not always up to par, and the waiting lists can be long, sometimes years, no thanks to our previous liberal government who promised the sun will always shine up your butt, if you give them your vote, but this does not refract from the simple notion that people have to take REAL responsibility if they wish to make a life for themselves elsewhere.

If some of you Americans do decide stage anti-illegal protests, let me know I'll use my PASSPORT and come on over for a spell
maybe some of you would appreciate seeing a Canadian flag waving with you as opposed to a Mexican flag waving against you.

I wish you peace my American Friends.



posted on Apr, 10 2006 @ 02:28 PM
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NPR on their ongoing report refers to the illegal immigrants (read felons) as not being represented in government. What is it they don't understand? To be illegal means they don't have citizenship and therefore are inherently NOT represented.

Meantime, Senators like my own Chris Dodd, CT Democrat, refers to them as "undoumented immigrants that we should not make into felons". We don't make them felons they did so themsleves by sneaking over the borders.

Yes, the consensus on here is right, something smells but it is not about an invasion, workers for jobs that go begging, or any other thing. It is about breaking down borders and the end of nation-states. It is part of the globalized NWO and the UN Agenda 21.

Folks, the America we knew and loved; the America we fought and died for, as did our parents, is over and gone. It is now time to plan for the coming chaos that is the result of the Socialist Revolution we are witnessing. We must hunker down and prepare through storage and stockpiling of food and supplies. It is time to buy rural land and take care of our families and our own needs as best we can.

The great mass of Americans have been so dumbed down and brainwashed that they cannot see it coming until all our lives are brought down to trhird world status.

God Bless America indeed, more like God have Mercy on America. If you think this is a new situation in the world take a look at Zimbabwe and South Africa both were once self-sustaining and independent, with resouirces enough to support this. Time and politics have destroyed those great Republics and left the citizenry in shambles and poverty. Take a lesson, everyone, from this.

Richard of Danbury




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