NEWS: 90 US Cities Targeted for Massive Immigrant Protests

Originally posted by Odium
you got any information to back that up?

It's all over the TV News. Detroit and Philadelphia school
students were interviewed and they all said they were
getting extra credit for going.

Here's one on the internet for Washington -
www.washtimes.com...

"volunteer" rally at a school in SF, where students are given extra
credit to attend, (look about 2/3 way down the page)
www.leaningstraightup.com...

- Florida Schools. ... The extra credit persuades some high school students
to train to become poll workers is the claim -
www.whatkidscando.org...

Or is this going to be another ....

tsk tsk tsk. You should have just asked for the information
instead of adding this unnecessary extra 'comment'.

Students are getting 'paid' to show up, no matter if they believe
in it or not. Homeless people are getting free meals to show up.
The bigger numbers of people are more impressive for the cameras.
It intimidates congress more.


[edit on 4/10/2006 by FlyersFan]

Well Im a firm believer this will ignite a civil war if this continues. I have already read of mexican flags being torched in front of mexican consulate.
It wont take long and these people are going to be rounded up.

Well Im a firm believer this will ignite a civil war if this continues. I have already read of mexican flags being torched in front of mexican consulate.
It wont take long and these people are going to be rounded up.

Well Im a firm believer this will ignite a civil war if this continues. I have already read of mexican flags being torched in front of mexican consulate.
It wont take long and these people are going to be rounded up.

Congress on Easter recess whilst these protests take place in cities all over the nation? I, for one have had enough, the dems, and reps can all go straight to Hell.

Washington's two lovely senators and my districts congressional representitive are history so far as I am concerned. I will support an independent candidate of my choice with not only my vote, but my monetary support as well.

Illegal aliens are being given aid and comfort by our government while our sons, daughter, sisters, and brothers, not to mention parents are overseas dying for our country? What has our country come to? I can't even pretend to support our government now.

We've had the opportunity to solve this problem, and still can, for a long time now. But entrenched interests on both sides of the aisle have stopped any attempt to do so.

To say I am angry would be to understate the case rather dramatically. I am, quite frankly, thouroghly enraged.

Vote anything other than Republican, or Democrat this fall. A message must be sent that can't be spun to read something other than what it says.
Please.

Alphacentari - Hip Hip Horay!!! my thoughts exactly. It seems that most of these posts try to make this a "liberal" or "conservative" issue. Which it is not. Again I have read that this is the fault of the current administration. Nothing new here. Nothing more than typical Bush hatred. This is not and should not be a political issue. This is a legal issue. We call them Illegal Aliens because under our present law, that's what they are.

The immigration problem has been going on for 20-30 years if not more. The Reagan administration tried Amnesty in the early 80's - which failed.

Ted Kennedy was behind the first attempt to reform immigratioin in the 60's. He is now trying to reform what he tried to reform in the 60's.

www.frontpagemag.com...

This article will tell you who was behind the immigration reform act of the 60's.

The ongoing problem is still the same, laws are not being enforced.

My last comment is to the poster who said this is a way for the government to institute some kind of martial law.

Again, nothing new here. The same old boaring stuff. The government is facist, racist, out for big business, blah, blah, blah. A conspiracy theory is not going to solve the problem of immigration. Let's not turn it into one.

Originally posted by grover
aelita...you don't answer a single thing in my post, yours is all attitude and nothing else.

Au contraire, mon ami, I went to the trouble of slicing your post and answering sentence by sentence.

As for demeaning to America...wake up and smell the coffee. It is your repubican leadership who will do everything for bisuness and nothing for the little guy

MY republican leadership? I didn't vote for them.

And yes we have become too fat, lazy and proud to stoop down and take a low paying job.

It is a huge non-seguitur to say that therefore, we need 10 or 20 million Mexicans to come here and do these jobs. That's just silly. Also, you insinuate that "we are fat and lazy" and seem happy with that state of things. How come you just give up on your own, that easy? Huh? How about educational effort and creation of normal jobs? That's too difficult? Is it just conceptually easier for you to open the floodgate of immigration?

It is a damned good thing we have a well trained standing military to fight for us cause the average joe on the streets wouldn't last 5 minutes in a war zone, no matter how big of a pick up truck he drives.

Brilliant! An average Jean, Jose or Ivan wouldn't last 5 minutes in warzone without proper training regardless of what they drive. Is this your point? Wow, what titanic intellectual labor you have accomplished.

From what i have seen in the Wal-marts and McDonalds of America, its a good thing we don't have a draft.

You seem to despise Americans so much that you should really consider moving to Mexico. However, you'll just advocate Mexico moving here, because this way you don't have to move, right? Is this because you are "fat and lazy"?

And don't get your patriotic little panties all in a bunch over this, its true whether you like it or not.

From all that you have said the only true thing is that a civilian would not survive in a warzone. I congratulate you in that truthful statement. The rest of what you wrote is padding.


[edit on 10-4-2006 by Aelita]

[edit on 10-4-2006 by Aelita]

Originally posted by infinite
martial law? hmmm, wouldn't they have to start causing riots and damage to these Cities, before martial law is declared?

now, about the camps.....that is something we should try to monitor, cause i can see them coming into effect pretty soon.

maybe it made sense for them to build those camps after all

it sure is getting scary though, you think illegals would be more afraid then how bold they have become. They act like they own the US now. It is terrible really, but they have to believe this because the rich man is their buddy and wants them in the country to take the jobs from locals for less pay.

Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Well Im a firm believer this will ignite a civil war if this continues. I have already read of mexican flags being torched in front of mexican consulate.
It wont take long and these people are going to be rounded up.

A civil war is a war in which parties within the same culture, society or nationality fight for control...From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

More like an insurgency..i would think unless your reffering to legal immigrant's starting a war..but that too makes no sense.

Question:

If Illegal immigrants are granted some sort of "legality" to enable them to
live and work in the United States. Do you think the next step would be for them
to ask for FAIR WAGES, For the work they are doing now?
If so, should they be paid FAIR WAGES. Like a minimum wage for Guest workers.

[edit on 10-4-2006 by spacedoubt]

Originally posted by spacedoubt
Question:

If Illegal immigrants are granted some sort of "legality" to enable them to
live and work in the United States. Do you think the next step would be for them
to ask for FAIR WAGES, For the work they are doing now?

Of course not. There are two reasons for that:

a) if insanity prevails in the Congress and the Mexicans get legal status, that would increase the illegal immigration manifold plus lead to 20 million family reunifications. It's not rocket science. Therefore, the salaries will be MORE depressed for everyone.

b) since the newcomers don't speak English, they will live and work in enclaves, however large they are. So their joining the labor corps will be local to south-western states, and they still be in an indentures status elsewhere.

[edit on 10-4-2006 by Aelita]

You may be right Aelita.

My thinking was that a newfound status, may reduce inhibitions.
There would be less fear of reprisal, if they were here legally.

Originally posted by spacedoubt
You may be right Aelita.

My thinking was that a newfound status, may reduce inhibitions.
There would be less fear of reprisal, if they were here legally.

Where I live, and that is the Empire State, these law-breaking individuals aren't really afraid of anything. I'm sick of seeing the same pick-up scene every morning where builders hire these workers for a day. It's at the local 7/11. I saw the police once (because the 7/11 couldn't do business because of this Hispanic crowd), and the illegals just moved over a fwe hundred feet. No biggie.

FlyersFan, you might desire to begin to read your own sources:

The Maryland State Board of Education in 1992 began requiring students to earn 60 community-service hours to graduate from high school. Counties are allowed to decide what constitutes appropriate service. Montgomery County grants credit for service in three areas, including in advocacy.

Brian Edwards, a spokes-man for the county public schools, said students may earn one credit an hour doing a preapproved activity under the supervision of a nonprofit group, pending completion of a written assignment. The activity must take place off-campus and outside school hours. Students are on spring break, so they would not be participating in the rally during school hours, he said. The school system is not taking a side in the debate, Mr. Edwards added.

They in fact, have to write about the means of the protest, the point of it, take part in it. Then they have to write another report on it. This is by no means the Education System giving them a free ride and passing them on the basis that they attend.

You just gloss over this, like you always seem to do.

Aren't these protests a perfect opportunity to "round-up" or at least photo ID illegals? If any foreigners 'specially illegals pulled that in Canada and disrupted commerce the current government wouldn't hesitate to "read-the-riot-act" and act accordingly. I'm baffled that America won't defend it's people against what appears to be an invasion.

I am a US citizen. Born and raised here. Served my country and have been around the block/world.
For the last 2 plus years I have been trying to immigrate my wife into this country. The total financial cost will be close to $10,000.00 when all is done and said. The hold ups are not with the Chinese, but our Government!!
Today I signed I-864 ( affidavit of support) stating that I will support her for the term of the marriage or until death. She was not able to visit during the past 2 plus years. I did go to China twice. Now when she gets here she will not be able to receive Welfare, Food stamps, FREE medical care, nor subsidized housing.
I have a very dear friend who is Latino or whatever the PC word of the day is, One never knows with all the Protest that are going on. He has immigrated to this country just as legally as my wife will in the not too distant future. He has a job, pays taxes, and has a wonderful family.

Just because some of these people run across the river/fence/concertina wire, does not make me obligated to pay their way.. The ones that come here seeking employment, and a new life-- welcome-- Follow the dang rules. Apply for immigrant status just as I have had to do for my wife. Many of the immigrants that came to Ellis Island were turned away. What makes these people think that it is their RIGHT to be able to come here and sponge from American taxpayers--while sending money back to Mexico? My tax money! Something is really wrong with this and too many people think it is their right. Illegals have NO RIGHTS! Ship them out and make them apply for status as everyone else!
Wake up, see the truth!

Originally posted by Aelita

Originally posted by spacedoubt

There would be less fear of reprisal, if they were here legally.

Where I live, and that is the Empire State, these law-breaking individuals aren't really afraid of anything.

Well, what I was getting at, in my obscure way, was this:

Illegal immigrants work for low wages.
Businesses, and politicians say that Americans would not do this work,
because it is tough, and the money is horrible.
They say Americans enjoy the LOW COST of the products, handled by this low wage workforce.

If some type of amnesty is arranged, these low wage workers will next demand higher working wages. (This is my opinion, but I think it's somewhat valid.)

Here is a quote:
"We need BETTER salaries and paper (documentation) for Mexicans," Roman said. "We are not criminals."
From This Story

With higher working wages, the so-called benefit, to American consumers will then be negated. BUT!..These jobs are now much more attractive to us "lazy Americans".

I propose that we mandate a higher wage, make the jobs attractive to Americans. Hire unemployed Americans. Making it less attractive to
anyone who wants to move in illegally.

Then, use the tax dollars saved (by a lower number of American Welfare recipients), use the tax dollars earned (by the newly employed American workers), to better patrol our borders. And, to provide escorts for those who are here illegally.

I don't dispise America...what i do dispise is the histronics that pass for public discourse in this country today. When i said that the illegal aliens that by risking life and limb coming here, working whereever they can at whatever wage they can get, sending the majority back home to support their families proves their worthiness of citizenship is true...if they had done everything the same except that they came on a workers visa, as opposed to skipping across the border they would be considered excellent canidates for citizenship. Behind all the hubuis about illegals is a not so veiled racism...I have known several illegals from places like Scotland and France and no one ever questioned them even when it was well known that they were illegal. The simple fact is if Americans don't want the low wage grunt work and employers don't want to pay more so that more Americans would consider working them, then there are going to be illegal aliens coming in to do it. Probably the best answer for the problem on the board right now is the guest worker idea...I hate having to agree with Bush on anything but I have to on this.

The wave of xenophobia that is rocking America right now is disgusting. As the descendant of immigrants I stand in solidarity with the protesters. The legal/illegal issue is irrelevant in my opinion, an immigrant is an immigrant. If the immigration standards of today were applied a hundred years ago either most of us wouldn't be here or we would be the descendants of illegals as well.

Originally posted by Xao Bao
I am a US citizen. Born and raised here. Served my country and have been around the block/world.

For the last 2 plus years I have been trying to immigrate my wife into this country. The total financial cost will be close to $10,000.00 when all is done and said. The hold ups are not with the Chinese, but our Government!!

Firstly, I am glad that you've been able to get your wife access to the United State's.

Secondly, I'll explain an example which happened to one of my best friends. [Short version] This lady, after being in a relationship [long distance] between herself and her partner for four years, spent 6 years trying to get into the United State's as a citizen. She has a degree and yet was rejected. It took thousands of dollars and years of their lives till an appeal could be granted, within 6weeks of her moving to the U.S. she took a managerial job.

Most illegal immigrants, would go through the legal and correct channels. The problems you have are partially down to the system, one which she found didn't bother to respond when phoned or e-mailed. Then when she got through, they didn't know what they were doing or who to speak to.

No matter how easy it seems to blame the illegal immigrants, some of the blame has to be placed on the systems. If you have dependent who are ill, starving, etc, I'm sorry to say it but you'll do what is needed - even if it is breaking the law. The whole process needs to be speeded up, so applications are done in weeks not years. So that appeals are granted within weeks, not years.