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Originally posted by Aelita
By the way, are there any significant anti-illegal marches and/or other forms of protest?
And what contributions are you referring to? They don’t pay taxes or have health care, so guess who pays for the social services they receive?
Originally posted by Odium
FlyersFan, you might desire to begin to read your own sources:
The Maryland State Board of Education in 1992 began requiring students to earn 60 community-service hours to graduate from high school. Counties are allowed to decide what constitutes appropriate service. Montgomery County grants credit for service in three areas, including in advocacy.
Brian Edwards, a spokes-man for the county public schools, said students may earn one credit an hour doing a preapproved activity under the supervision of a nonprofit group, pending completion of a written assignment. The activity must take place off-campus and outside school hours. Students are on spring break, so they would not be participating in the rally during school hours, he said. The school system is not taking a side in the debate, Mr. Edwards added.
They in fact, have to write about the means of the protest, the point of it, take part in it. Then they have to write another report on it. This is by no means the Education System giving them a free ride and passing them on the basis that they attend.
You just gloss over this, like you always seem to do.
Originally posted by Jadette
And as an aside, the smartest thing I ever heard about illegal immigration was on South Park, amusingly enough. Where it was pointed out that if we spent our efforts on trying to make these people's countries better places to live, maybe we wouldn't have these problems.
Originally posted by DaFunk13
Originally posted by Jadette
And as an aside, the smartest thing I ever heard about illegal immigration was on South Park, amusingly enough. Where it was pointed out that if we spent our efforts on trying to make these people's countries better places to live, maybe we wouldn't have these problems.
Or maybe spent less time screwing their countries up by helping to install puppet "democracy" that only seeks to suckle from the American teet anyway...rather than follow the will and needs of its people. Ever wonder why their economies are inflated? Can you imagine how bad it must be if they will come here and wash your dishes for 5 bucks as hour and then send half of it back home to family?
We have the same oppressor folks.
Stop fighting fellow slaves and fight the master...
Originally posted by Jadette
Originally posted by DaFunk13
Originally posted by Jadette
And as an aside, the smartest thing I ever heard about illegal immigration was on South Park, amusingly enough. Where it was pointed out that if we spent our efforts on trying to make these people's countries better places to live, maybe we wouldn't have these problems.
Or maybe spent less time screwing their countries up by helping to install puppet "democracy" that only seeks to suckle from the American teet anyway...rather than follow the will and needs of its people. Ever wonder why their economies are inflated? Can you imagine how bad it must be if they will come here and wash your dishes for 5 bucks as hour and then send half of it back home to family?
We have the same oppressor folks.
Stop fighting fellow slaves and fight the master...
In part, that's my point, though I hadn't elaborated. We need to quit living off the backs of the rest of the world. I'm a firm believer that we don't solve many of the world's problems, deliberately.
Originally posted by Aelita
You are accusing the US of "installing puppet democracies" and yet bemoan our failure to somehow magically fix all the problems in all the countries in the wolrd. You are enjoying this board with its technology and freedom of speech because the US is what it is, and it's low of you to keep b!tching about this country being a parasite and an oppressor.
Originally posted by DaFunk13
I'm trying not to make this personal here. You can choose to ignore the whole Native American Genocide, or even African slavery...but most smart people see both these building blocks of America to be a wee bit oppressive. Maybe even a little parasitic.
Originally posted by grover
When it comes to the immigration issue and how American work attitudes effects it, I am on the front line and I know of what I speak. We started hiring immigrents illegal or not several years ago and have no regrets or complaints.
...so as a rule the average dishwasher, pantry or line cook is probably an alcoholic or drug addict or both and is only going to be around until his next binge.
or even worse some pathetic soul who watched Emeril one too many times and decided it would be glamarous to become a chef, spend 20 or 30,000 to go to Johnson and Wales of the Culinary Institute of America only to get in the real world only to discover its hard, brutal work
they work their asses off and coming from nothing, they appericate everything.
Originally posted by Aelita
Originally posted by grover
...so as a rule the average dishwasher, pantry or line cook is probably an alcoholic or drug addict or both and is only going to be around until his next binge.
Well, of course if you pay them what you pay them, you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
or even worse some pathetic soul who watched Emeril one too many times and decided it would be glamarous to become a chef, spend 20 or 30,000 to go to Johnson and Wales of the Culinary Institute of America only to get in the real world only to discover its hard, brutal work
It's amazing how much disdain yiou have for an American who actually decided to get an education and had paid for that. Of course, you don't need an Emeril in your kitchen, you just need a few slaves whom you can exploit to no end. And after that you lecture here on how inept the Americans are and how they all desrve to be replaced by el-cheapo labor.
they work their asses off and coming from nothing, they appericate everything.
Ain't that convenient.
My aren't you snide...you missed the point where I said we pay our people well immigrant or not and we do...if you want staff to stay you have to...that doesn't change the fact that kitchen work attracts people with issues because it does, it is because of the transient nature of the business...you see it in construction and fishing etc. aas well....we easily pay 2 an hour above the going rate in my area, and since we started that policy, turnover in the kitchen is minimal which is a rarity...I make sure my people are treated well, that doesn't change the fact that its hard to get good help...as for the Emirel comment, I am not talking about somebody who has decided to get an education, I am talking about somebody who for whatever reason has decided to become a chef and has no clue as to what is involved...I have seen plenty of these, usually 2nd career types...I am all for getting an education, we have paid for several employees to go to school, but the type I am talking about goes into cooking for the glamor of it and when they discover it ain't there usually bail. I treat my people well, not as you suggest like slaves, I will not ask a single employee to do something I wouldn't do myself...so if the grease trap backs up I am over there bailing as well as the dishwasher and I would be negligent in my job if I wasn't. I don't want slave labor, i want proud people who are capable of thinking for themselves and if I can't get that from the local labor pool...I will look elsewhere and I dare you to find another business person who wouldnt say the same.