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Four-year-old Jandre Botha disobeyed an order to call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy''.
So the lover, Engeline de Nysschen (33), viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her "Daddy".
Jandre died from his injuries, which trauma expert Professor Mohammed Dada said were similar to those of a person who had fallen from a double-storey building.
Yesterday Vereeniging Regional Court magistrate Rita Willemse found De Nysschen and the mother, Hanelie Botha (31) - who did nothing to protect her child - guilty of murder.
Jandre's father, Jan Botha, sat in court holding the hands of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, and listened attentively to Willemse, who, in her judgment, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "Daddy".
Originally posted by thermopolis
I post this to show the harm "gay marriage" is doing to society. This entire story is simply insane. Media always covers "men" beating thier wives and all things evil about "men", how about this story?
Originally posted by riley
Originally posted by thermopolis
I post this to show the harm "gay marriage" is doing to society. This entire story is simply insane. Media always covers "men" beating thier wives and all things evil about "men", how about this story?
By your logic that would mean all marriages are harmful to society. Is this crime somehow 'less condonable' than if it were commited by a hetero woman or man? Happens all the time in other demographics.
[edit on 27-3-2006 by riley]
Originally posted by thermopolis
The key issue here is a 4 year old child being beaten to death for not calling a "Woman" [Daddy]......................That is what makes this story insane.
If the issue of "hate" crimes is based on the "intent" of the criminal while committing an act (murder, etc) then this story is valid..........this is a "hate" crime.........
Originally posted by dgtempe
This ;thread was generated to cause trouble.
We're too smart for that.
Originally posted by riley
If the issue of "hate" crimes is based on the "intent" of the criminal while committing an act (murder, etc) then this story is valid..........this is a "hate" crime.........
A hate crime is when someone kills etc with the only motive being they don't like their race, sex, orientation etc. This one is child abuse.. NOT a hate crime. Nice spin though.
Originally posted by HiddenReality
A hetro man wouldnt demand his child to call him mother... Where is your logic?
So you think its less of a crime because it wasnt carried out for sexual motives?
I think its you riley trying to put spin on this to defend the homosexuals.
Originally posted by riley
Wow. I was under the impression that one messed up woman killed this kid.. I didn't know all homosexuals were in on it. Shouldn't you be angry at all child abusers and not just the gay ones?
[edit on 27-3-2006 by riley]
Originally posted by HiddenReality
Most child abusers are gay.
Originally posted by HiddenReality
The woman killed the child because she was unhappy with his views of the gay marriage.
Originally posted by dgtempe
I dont know why people are so worried about this when their own personal skeletons remain in their closets.