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I Say to Europe: Hurry Up and Apologize

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posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 04:03 AM
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This is an extract from a speach by Hamas Leader Khaled Mash'al at a Damascus Mosque. Its entitled The Nation of Islam Will Sit at the Throne of the World and the West Will Be Full of Remorse – When it's Too Late

(If you think this is bad read all the rest, this is just an extract)

From here



"I Say to Europe: Hurry Up and Apologize"

Mash'al: "I say to the [European countries]: Hurry up and apologize to our nation, because if you do not, you will regret it. This is because our nation is progressing and is victorious. Do not leave a black mark in the collective memory of the nation, because our nation will not forgive you.

"Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing. Apologize today, before remorse will do you no good. Our nation is moving forwards, and it is in your interest to respect a victorious nation.

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"Our nation will be victorious. When it reaches the leadership of the world, and controls its own decisions, then it will prevent this overt interference [in our affairs], and its pillaging of natural resources, and will prevent these recurring offenses against our land, against our nation, and against our holy places - then you will regret it.


[edit on 7-2-2006 by Netchicken]

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[edit on 7-2-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]




posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 04:24 AM
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I protested in London outside the Denmark embassy!
You people are trying to say why protest against some cartoons making fun of Prophet Muhammad (swt), it’s not a big deal.

Islam is religion of peace
First of all our prophet (swt) is the most important person to us from every human in this world even our parents, brothers and sisters and all the relatives.
When someone makes fun of our prophet (swt) than it totally outrages us because he is so important to us that we are ready to die for him, that’s how much we respect and love him. Our blood boils when someone tries to make fun out of our prophet (swt)

Now your argument is why we Muslims don’t go back to our countries if we can’t agree with your ideas and cant live the way as your society want us to live.
The words and sentences that you actually used are these:
Go back to the dirt hole from where your parents have crawled up from, nuke all the Muslims, wipe them out and we will forget that Muslims existed after 20-30years,shoot them one by one.

My response will hurt you a lot but I swear I will respond at the rate same rate that you responded Muslims.

Only we Muslims can dare protest in the heart of your capital in your western countries because we no we are right and you are wrong. We won’t go back to our countries till you leave ours. You invade our countries rape all our resources (from Africa to Asia) and then say to us to leave yours. Never till we have drain them out of you and our population keeps growing day by day and the only thing you can do watch us build up. We were a few thousands when we entered west but now we are in millions.

When it comes to nuking us all you can’t do that because you depend on our resources and you always try rape it through military means. Muslims already have a nuke (Pakistan) and Iran on the way to build one, so it proves that we are still not in the bronze days like you have exaggerated. If u decided to nuke us, you will have to nuke all 57 Muslim countries spreaded out in every continent, and the radiation will be enough to finish you all off aswel.

I don’t blame you for your pathetic views, your brain will only work according to what the media shows and makes you listen to. You are puppets controlled by Zionists and free masons. They control your economy, your top businesses, and your government. They hold all the top positions in your societies and the media just speaks out their views of the world.

What you see today is nothing new; Muslims have always been abused, killed and degraded in everyway by you. And when we stand up for our rights you bark out terrorism, extremists, and radicals. But at the end of the day we always win and our history has shown that again and again. Just wait till the moment we rise, we are the burning coal.

Islam is the best religion, the most peaceful and the guide to humans to live a perfect life. You want to break Islam into pieces like you have done with your religions; you want us to be like you and abuse at our religion like you do. You want us to change and upgrade our religion to the way you think, like you have done with your religions.
It will never happen, you have tried it in the past till today but not even a dot has been changed.
Don’t label us Muslims with words like, sick people, psychos, dirt hole, and our ideas date back to caveman days.

Let me tell you what your societies are all about, your societies are the ones that are going towards dirt hole. Most of you are bastards with 100s of dads. You are drowning in dirt that you call fun and entertainment. Drowning in alcohol,drugs,sex,prostitution,child pornography, new dirty relations like gays and lesbians. Divorce rate on high, relations based on money, no respect for anyone. Your religions and your top priests following the same idea and agreeing to it. Upgrading your religions to all this dirt you call freedom and democracy. You are the dirty disease that will destroy humanity.

There’s no radical.moderate, extremist or different types of Muslims like you say. All Muslims are equal and should follow the Prophets Muhammad (swt) way of life.
Muslims who agree with your way of life or have converted or agree to your ideas are called munafiqs.They are Muslims from outside but they are exactly like you kafirs (unbelievers) from inside.

Waging wars on us will not do you any good, it will eventually lead us to open our eyes and when Islam rises than nothing can stand in its path. What you see in protests and guerrilla warfare is nothing, just wait when khilafah forms (Muslims state).You will see death when you see the black jihad flag.

Don’t be proud of your technology, we might not be as advanced as you in technology but look how much chaos we can cause with them. A good example was when soviets got crippled in Afghanistan, Iraq now where thousands of your soldiers have died and will continue to die. They don’t tell you what the real numbers of deaths, because some of your bastard soldiers who are orphans with hardly any relations who make up most of your army or people with dead poor backgrounds. When they die your government tries to make out that they don’t exist because there’s no one who knows about them. They are burned or dumped.


Think about what I said; don’t start making extreme judgments about me, I am just normal Muslim who lives a normal life. Try to read about Islam and its history and you will start to know why our religion is so peaceful and and spreading at the fastest rate.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 04:30 AM
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lol don't make us laugh we are far technological superior to middle east THE WEST would stomp you all into ground and wipe you out if you tried anything like a jihad war or nuke attacks...... the west would survive middle east be a nice mushroom cloud glass desert.

we don't even need the oil from middle east, we have other alternate power sources they just are not deployed cause the world runs on oil at this time which could easy shift if the need arose to the new sources of energy, and that would be end of middle east, also all aid to ME would be cut off and you would vastly turn into a 3RD world country and stay that way forever.

LOL i bet we are waiting for the next attack so we can deploy stuff never seen before and probably deploy our nukes.

also i think the over reaction to the cartoons in a wesern nation thats run by western laws is pathetic WHEN IN ROME DO WHAT ROMANS DO understand or FO back out the western countrys if you dont like it not as if you are forced to stay.

LOL also only reason we have somany casualties onIraq is that we are occuping it, now if it was a jihad war we would not bother occuping we would annihilate everything like hmm WW2 for example go read about how we fought WW2 and thats what you will get but with the latest and newest military toys at our disposal for you all.

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[edit on 7-2-2006 by blobby]



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 04:47 AM
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Well if they are so unhappy with us insulting thier religion then I ask, how come a bunch of cartoons can be worse than burning our flags, insulting us, threatening us and murdering western inocent citizens?

But ofcourse...the acts of extremists are never supported by the majority, thats what northern ireland taught us......right?



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 04:51 AM
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Look at this picture.





Now your argument is why we Muslims don’t go back to our countries if we can’t agree with your ideas and cant live the way as your society want us to live.
The words and sentences that you actually used are these:
Go back to the dirt hole from where your parents have crawled up from, nuke all the Muslims, wipe them out and we will forget that Muslims existed after 20-30years,shoot them one by one.

Some on here would like to see that, but I am not one of them and I suspect Netchicken isn't either so don't put words into peoples mouths who you don't even know bub. If you don't like Freedom of Expression oh well. Tough. Get over it. Don't go Martyr yourself over something that is inherintly silly.


We were a few thousands when we entered west but now we are in millions.

[Sarcasm]
You sure sound like a man of peace Muhammad or whatever your name is.
[/Sarcasm]
Those sound like fighting words. If you wanna take it out on the British Populace and you think they'll just roll over, you gotta nuther thing coming buddy. Do some research into the history of that Nation and you will see what I mean.


When it comes to nuking us all you can’t do that because you depend on our resources and you always try rape it through military means. Muslims already have a nuke (Pakistan) and Iran on the way to build one, so it proves that we are still not in the bronze days like you have exaggerated. If u decided to nuke us, you will have to nuke all 57 Muslim countries spreaded out in every continent, and the radiation will be enough to finish you all off aswel.

Again with the Nuking. If the extremist savages keep it up by killing, raping and pilliaging their own countries over something the Danish press published go right ahead. You try to start any of that crap in N. America or Europe then you will lose any and all sympathy we Left wingers had for the plight of the Arab world. I'm finding it very difficult to sympathise now myself.


I don’t blame you for your pathetic views, your brain will only work according to what the media shows and makes you listen to.

And you're [insert arbitrary "holy" book here] only lets you think what the preachers of that book want you to think.


You are puppets controlled by Zionists and free masons. They control your economy, your top businesses, and your government. They hold all the top positions in your societies and the media just speaks out their views of the world.

Now we get to the meat. You're sounding like a Zealot now...


What you see today is nothing new; Muslims have always been abused, killed and degraded in everyway by you. And when we stand up for our rights you bark out terrorism, extremists, and radicals. But at the end of the day we always win and our history has shown that again and again. Just wait till the moment we rise, we are the burning coal.

Hmm you sound like a very peacefull "person".


Islam is the best religion, the most peaceful and the guide to humans to live a perfect life. You want to break Islam into pieces like you have done with your religions; you want us to be like you and abuse at our religion like you do. You want us to change and upgrade our religion to the way you think, like you have done with your religions.

You wanna live like its 700 AD be my guest. No one is stopping you, except maybe some Laser and GPS guided munitions HA! I have lost my patience with Fanatics of all stripes I don't care wether you read the Bible, Koran or the Torah. They are all garbage not worth the paper they are printed on in my opinion.


It will never happen, you have tried it in the past till today but not even a dot has been changed.
Don’t label us Muslims with words like, sick people, psychos, dirt hole, and our ideas date back to caveman days.

700 AD or 1700 AD or BC Whatever. All I know is what I've seen and witnessed with my own eyes in your holiest Country Saudi Arabia. Great bunch of people over there, stoning Adultresses to death, cutting of the hands of thieves(who may or may not be guilty as there is no presumption of Innocence before being proven guilty), persecuting Women etc etc ad nausuem. Oh yeah the Middle East is soooo civilized. /sarcasm What happened to the Culture that well INVENTED CULTURE IN THE FIRST PLACE!?! Seems you guys just left it behind a thousand years ago. GG.

Well the rest of your post is probably mostly tripe anyway and I can't be bothered to read the rest. I don't fear Allah btw and I don't fear you. You will lose as every moment you "people" continue this foolishness the more people who were sympathetic to your cause will stop caring. You've just made me stop caring bub. Good WORK! Have a nice Jihad. You will lose.

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[edit on 7-2-2006 by sardion2000]



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 04:57 AM
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Ok where are the mods on this... that post by fear allah is the most hateful, racist, barabric crap I ever head.

[edit on 7-2-2006 by XphilesPhan]



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Ok where arte the mods on this... that post by fear allah is the most hateful, racist, barabric crap I ever head.


So? Leave it up so people can see it. It gives a very clear view into the mind of a fanatic.

[edit on 7-2-2006 by sardion2000]



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:08 AM
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Netchicken
Say it isn't so! Netchicken the Mod we hardly knew ye! What's the deal with being a member? Slummin' it?
Sorry to raise this off topic issue, I just noticed and I was surprised. Are you taking some time off from the corrupting touch of ultimate power?


fear allah
I don't fear Allah, I fear


Sardion
You make an excellent point with the cartoon you posted for contrast.
The extremists in question don't want equality, they want supremacy.

I was going to respond to mr fear's post, but I suspect it won't be around for long...



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by sardion2000

Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Ok where arte the mods on this... that post by fear allah is the most hateful, racist, barabric crap I ever head.


So? Leave it up so people can see it. It gives a very clear view into the mind of a fanatic.

[edit on 7-2-2006 by sardion2000]




That is true, but this is what the US has been saying since 2001, and only now people are begining to realise perhaps we were right about these fanatics, I myself have ultimately given up as all the fighting with their sympathisers has left me with a feeling of 'why bother'. Unfortuneately europe will be the first to have to face these people on a dangerous level, land of my fathers, I wish you well in your fight, but somehow feell perhaps you brought this on your own heads by not heeding the warnings.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:21 AM
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FEAR ALLAH - You quote that "Islam is a Religion of peace"? Do you really think that your religion comes across as being peaceful? Coz if you do then this world is doomed!

you yourself have admited to attending the protest? where's the peace in that? peace is sitting down and working things out? not lining the streets shouting and throwing things?

The UK is predominatly a Christian country I believe, so why should you have the rights to protest? Would Jews, Catholics, Budda's etc... be allowed to protest in Islamic countrys? I very much doubt it!

I don't like the way Islam is trying to take over UK, France etc... and think that it's ok to do so. If it was the other way around you wouldn't like it!

Thanks

[edit on 7-2-2006 by DodgeG1]



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by fear allah
Islam is religion of peace
....

Islam is the best religion, the most peaceful and the guide to humans to live a perfect life.
....
You will see death when you see the black jihad flag.


Peaceful... ya. OK.

Can you explain the part about peace again?




I don’t blame you for your pathetic views, your brain will only work according to what the media shows and makes you listen to. You are puppets controlled by Zionists and free masons.


How about you take a moment to reflect on what's making YOU thinking this way. Islam may be a peaceful religion but that's irrelevant when there are such hateful believers such as yourself.




Think about what I said; don’t start making extreme judgments about me, I am just normal Muslim who lives a normal life. Try to read about Islam and its history and you will start to know why our religion is so peaceful and and spreading at the fastest rate.


Wow, just wow. You're just a normal mulsim living a normal life? That's frightening.



no respect for anyone.


Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that you are being respectful, OK?



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by XphilesPhan

Originally posted by sardion2000

Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Ok where arte the mods on this... that post by fear allah is the most hateful, racist, barabric crap I ever head.


So? Leave it up so people can see it. It gives a very clear view into the mind of a fanatic.

[edit on 7-2-2006 by sardion2000]




That is true, but this is what the US has been saying since 2001, and only now people are begining to realise perhaps we were right about these fanatics, I myself have ultimately given up as all the fighting with their sympathisers has left me with a feeling of 'why bother'. Unfortuneately europe will be the first to have to face these people on a dangerous level, land of my fathers, I wish you well in your fight, but somehow feell perhaps you brought this on your own heads by not heeding the warnings.


I am not a reactionary. I need to be provoked and I have been twice in two days. First time was in RL which ended up in a lil fist fight because I suggested that the moderates should start clamping down on the extremists and it turns out I was talking to an extremist who was my friend. And now this. I have been provoked. I was willing to believe that this stuff was mostly perpetrated by the few when 9/11 happened but it turns out I was wrong and that there are more fanatics then just a few. Maybe not the Majority but more then just handfulls here and there as I previously believed.

Could we have done things differently to prevent this? Probably. Is it too late to douse the flames? Again it probably is and I am very sad for that fact. I have woken up, thank you Danes.

[edit on 7-2-2006 by sardion2000]



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:40 AM
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Can Anyone please explain why Denmark has to apologise as a country for something that a free and independant newpaper has done? I don't quite get the connection of guilt there.. Don't they know that the press is not under the control of our governments?



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:42 AM
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I feel for you sardion, I really do....I wish things didnt turn out like this....I thought europe would of been weary of this type of thing....It probably is too late and there maybe a few civil wars in european countries before it is over with.

France will already need to give part of it's nation to these extremists(sorry frenchies). and the more europeans bow to the pressure of these extremists the more they are at their mercy, I believe they will eventually awaken to what has happened and try to fight back. I hope.....



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 05:49 AM
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You mean give up the slums most of their immigrants are forced to live in
Oh yeah I forgot they burnt down alot of those slums last time around. Remember this France has the highest number of Police per capita. It could turn out into an all out bloodbath over there.

You ever been to France XphilesPhan? I have and it felt .... oppressive. Cops everywhere... if they get pissed enough well it won't be a civil war it will be an all out massacre...



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 06:04 AM
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I will get flamed for this. That's alright, since I won't be reading this thread anymore after I say this:

I have, and will continue to, shed tears for every Jew, Muslim, or member of any other faith or race that suffers or dies because of the horrendous ignorance and hatred on both sides of this war. I can say that because I don't see Jews, Muslims, or other races/faiths. I see human beings. I feel as much sadness when I see Arabs die - yes, even the Arabs we're supposed to call our enemies - as I do when I hear of the deaths of our soldiers in Iraq or elsewhere. When I hear that a building was bombed somewhere, killing several Muslims for the sake of one possible target, I feel as much sadness and empathy for those people as I do for every American soldier I hear about dying on the news each night. The whole thing is sad, terrible, and has cast a shadow over the whole world.

If anyone who hates me because I live in the United States is reading this, I hope you believe me when I say that I don't hate you, and if you die killing someone from my country, I feel just as much pain hearing of your death as I do hearing of theirs. This will make everyone call me unpatriotic or emotionally treasonous, but I really don't care.

This is not a war between the east and west, or between Islam and Judaism or Christianity. It is a war between peace and chaos. Right now, both sides are being defeated by the latter, and I don't really care who is on which side. I just want it to stop. But I'm talking to the wind, and there's little I or anyone else can do now. This can of worms is already wriggling away into history. It's impossible to put them back in, now. All I can do is refuse to be one of them.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by DodgeG1
FEAR ALLAH - You quote that "Islam is a Religion of peace"? Do you really think that your religion comes across as being peaceful? Coz if you do then this world is doomed!

you yourself have admited to attending the protest? where's the peace in that? peace is sitting down and working things out? not lining the streets shouting and throwing things?

The UK is predominatly a Christian country I believe, so why should you have the rights to protest? Would Jews, Catholics, Budda's etc... be allowed to protest in Islamic countrys? I very much doubt it!

I don't like the way Islam is trying to take over UK, France etc... and think that it's ok to do so. If it was the other way around you wouldn't like it!

Thanks

[edit on 7-2-2006 by DodgeG1]




Absolutely right.


If we started protesting ?

So where is the defending reply ?
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 06:14 AM
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One of the Amon was on TV last night saying that they didnt even want apologizes. He said all they wanted was war and the heads of the people who drew the pictures.

I'd love to see the apologists defend that.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 06:18 AM
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I doubt you will get your wish Dronetek.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 06:21 AM
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No matter how many apologizes they get, they will say: "They didn´t apologize! They are still publishing the pictures every day in their state owned media. In fact the pictures are getting worse every day!"

But they are Imams so they must be telling the truth, right?




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