62 children meet aliens in Zimbabwe?, page 2


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reply posted on 22-7-2005 @ 02:32 PM by muzzleflash
were not gonna get to talk to dr cynthia hind either www.virtuallystrange.net...

rest in peace

*hope i didnt mix it up with a different cynthia hind*

edit:::

Got another lead tho; apparently a researcher by the name of Dominique Callimanopulos; was involved with dr mack on this

perhaps dominique is still alive; im currently trying to find his contact info

"Dr. John Mack and Dominique Callimanopulos' research on African and other cross-cultural abduction experiences appears in Dr. Mack's 1999 book, Passport to the Cosmos."
i got that from this website
www.centerchange.org...

alrite on this website it called one of the little kids "Isabelle"
all i need is a last name lol

maybe i can get mr Domoinique Callimanopulos to give us some better leads? at the very least i would want a way to contact the schoolmaster


[edit on 22-7-2005 by muzzleflash]


reply posted on 22-7-2005 @ 02:51 PM by lost_shaman
Originally posted by timb3r
Originally posted by lost_shaman
This is Africa we are talking about , that means that the Bee's would be African Bee's ( Some people call Killer Bees), I can't imagine anyone that would work with Africanized Bees with 62 children around!


www.si.edu...

The Bee's were not killer when they left Africa, it was the cross breeding of the Brazillian Honey bee to increase it's productivity, which went wrong when they escaped during genetic trials.


I'm sorry but your wrong , the African Honey bee is very agressive, compared to the Euopean Honey Bee , it was the introduction of African Honey Bees with Euopean Honey Bees in South America that the Genetics that make the Laid back Euopean Honey Bees , into killer bees, or what we correctly call " Africanized Honey Bees".

But they have always had those agrressive traits that make them dangerous , in Africa.

[edit on 22-7-2005 by lost_shaman]


reply posted on 22-7-2005 @ 03:03 PM by timb3r
Originally posted by lost_shaman
Originally posted by timb3r
Originally posted by lost_shaman
This is Africa we are talking about , that means that the Bee's would be African Bee's ( Some people call Killer Bees), I can't imagine anyone that would work with Africanized Bees with 62 children around!


www.si.edu...

The Bee's were not killer when they left Africa, it was the cross breeding of the Brazillian Honey bee to increase it's productivity, which went wrong when they escaped during genetic trials.


I'm sorry but your wrong , the African Honey bee is very agressive, compared to the Euopean Honey Bee , it was the introduction of African Honey Bees with Euopean Honey Bees in South America that the Genetics that make the Laid back Euopean Honey Bees , into killer bees, or what we correctly call " Africanized Honey Bees".


How can I be wrong when I directly quoted a biologist ? (from the link I provided)

I stated they were not killer, which the process of the genetic experiments did intensify.

Seeing as you didnt click the link:

In 1956, some colonies of African Honey Bees were imported into Brazil, with the idea of cross-breeding them with local populations of Honey Bees to increase honey production. In 1957, twenty-six African queens, along with swarms of European worker bees, escaped from an experimental apiary about l00 miles south of Sao Paulo. These African bee escapees have since formed hybrid populations with European Honey Bees, both feral and from commercial hives. They have gradually spread northward through South America, Central America, and eastern Mexico, progressing some 100 to 200 miles per year. In 1990, Killer Bees reached southern Texas, appeared in Arizona in 1993, and found their way to California in 1995. They are expected to form colonies in parts of the southern United States.

No european Bee's there


reply posted on 22-7-2005 @ 03:18 PM by muzzleflash


reply posted on 22-7-2005 @ 04:11 PM by muzzleflash
good post zanzibar; its that kind of skepticism i like
keeping a balance is always good

so far in my digging im actually comin up with stuff here lol

well; here are some names of researchers that were involved
Joseph P. Firmage
Stanislav Grof, M.D., Ph.D.
Daniel Mack
Dominique Callimanopulos

ones dead; and we got a email to another one

that leaves two researchers left; and by god ill track them down lol
Joseph P. Firmage and Stanislav Grof, M.D., Ph.D.

ok on a side note; i think i may have found our connection to Ruwa Zimbabwe; maybe

ok i found this website
www.kufunda.org...

they claim they are like 'social workers' helping the people in ruwa make a better life for themselves

they have listed Phone numbers; email; and postal addresses
Zimbabwe Mobile:
+263 (0) 23411102

Zimbabwbe Tel:
+ 263 4 575494

now; ive been trying to call one of these phone numbers for the past 20minutes ; and its harder than it looks lol

i wanted to ask the people there; if they can get me into contact with anyone who was witness to the 'incident' , or if they had any relevant info for better leads

ok well i call the phone number ; but i cant get thru
the operator message "call cannot be completed " occurs

now ive called Africa before; and i recall i couldnt just dial the numbers because my phone service was limited or something
so what i had to do was call an operator ; and have the operator manually connect me over to africa *the operator would have to dial for me*

so ive been calling the operator half a dozen times; and they are idiots because every time i say "connect me to long distance carrier" they keep screwing up and hanging up on me

ok well; if i can get thru to the phone # ill let u guys know what i find out
try calling yourself if you can; and update us in the thread if u can get thru

i know a few names and phone numbers isnt much to go with; but we are working with what we have available to us guys

i think theres alot more to this story ... just another update lol
geez i post to much


reply posted on 22-7-2005 @ 04:20 PM by timb3r
Originally posted by lost_shaman
timb3r,

I think your missing the point , we are talking about poeple working with Bees in Africa. That would make them African Bees.

African Bees are aggressive, and will attack anything near them so aggressively , that Fatalities often occur. Thus , the term " Killer Bees".

Whereas Euopean Honey Bees are not Aggressive and you can walk right up to a Euopean Honey Bee hive without being in danger.

That is not true with African Honey Bees.

And its the Genetic traits of the African Bees that are spreading through North And South America , that is turning Euopean Bees in America into Africanized Honey Bees , that are aggressive and deadly , just like thier African Counter parts , in Africa.

Edit: Let me explain why there can't be Euopean Honey Bees that aren't dangerous in Africa, and why there is a problem with Africanized Bees in the Americas.

The Female Queens of the Euopean Honey Bees are highly attracted to the Pheramones of the African King Bees ( Males ), so if an african male is present , the Queen will mate with the African King , and not the other Euopean King Bees . Her offsping will then have African Honey Bee Traits , the euopean colonies , will then take on the behaviors of African Honey Bees , and become aggressive.

The social structure of African Honey Bees is different than Euopean Honey Bees, they have many more Bees devoted to the protection of the hive than euopeans do.

[edit on 22-7-2005 by lost_shaman]


I hold my hand up, I think you're right, I did miss the point.

Anyway, thank you for actually pointing out to me, rather than flaming me.



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