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Originally posted by BlueRaja
With regard to the ALR 94, I wasn't referring to IR emissions, but rather things such EM/RF emissions(i.e. radio traffic, datalinks, etc..). If the threat aircraft emits anything, they're gonna get DF'd.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
Do you have some test analysis as to the effectiveness or lack thereof for the LPI capabilities of the APG 77? F-22s have flown against very sophisticated western aircraft, and they haven't detected the emissions.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
I think LPI needs to be looked at like VLO capabilities. It's not invisible, but the amount of reaction time an opponent has against it is greatly diminished, giving the Raptor an advantage.
Yes, I know.
That is why I have been stressing if the other guy makes NO noise, the -94 has NOTHING to detect. Brilliant as it is, nothing is still nothing.
The F-22 has only flown against 4th generation American aircraft as far as I am aware.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
I think LPI needs to be looked at like VLO capabilities. It's not invisible, but the amount of reaction time an opponent has against it is greatly diminished, giving the Raptor an advantage.
I disagree. Systems like Pirate and the AN/ALR-94 will easily detect any LPI radar IMO - be it European, American or Russian in origin.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
That would mean that the opponent would be flying extremely myopically, with regards to situational awareness though.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
These aircraft still have very advanced avionics, and RWR gear, even if the airframes aren't the current state of the art.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
This remains to be seen. If LPI radar was of no use over standard radar, it wouldn't be much of a selling point.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
Originally posted by BlueRaja
This remains to be seen. If LPI radar was of no use over standard radar, it wouldn't be much of a selling point.
Oh it definitely is useful... when fighting 4th gen technology.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Blue Raja I would not even bother arguing anymore, clearly some members here have special knowledge and secret access to technical information regarding the APG-77, ALR-94, RWR, PIRATE etc… or any other system they want to pull out of their behind.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Real world results, logic, physic, likely scenarios, and all the technical data online mean squat in comparison to sarcastic assumptions and illogical questions.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
The Raptor wasn't just designed to be effective against 4th Generation aircraft though. The Russians have yet to field 5th Generation aircraft or avionics.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
To turn the some of the logic used earlier in this thread right around - how can the F-22 be designed to beat future technology?