Canada – Terrorist Utopia

the american government wants a closed border with canada as it serves big business for american corperations. It makes them even richer.. Im sick of the anti canada rhetoric, and if i was the pm of canada(the states largest trading partner)id simply say hell with ya, and close the damn border and then have free trade with russia and china and europe. btw do you realise canada has more oil than saudi arabia or iraq? Sell it to ya for 200$ a barrel when ya run out! Haha Your mind controlled dictated to false sense of patriotic pride will one day be your downfall... Btw tell your cia if they want to make assets in canada, be prepared for it to happen to them right in there own backyard.

Originally posted by Duzey

And as for lack of help after 9-11, perhaps I should direct you to the total stangers that I invited into my home so that they would have a place to sleep instead of on the airport floor. They very much appreciate the assistance we gave during the US's time of need, and don't begrudge us the right to make our own decisions.

Right on! Obviously anyone who thinks that Canada wasn't there for the U.S. on 9/11 gets their news from Fox! This is typical of the ignorance many Americans have of the world.

And on the terrorism question - something that needs to be said though it hurst to say it because I have so many American friends and family. Most of the blame for "terrorism" world wide can be laid at the foot of the U.S. itself because it has laid the groundwork for so much hatred of its foreign policy worldwide. Its behaviour around the world in terms of using military and financial might has been shameless for decades. The interference of the U.S. in the business of sovereign nations like Iran, Panama, Ecuador, Iraq and the list goes on and on. All in the name of greed and powermongering. This is a history that is not old, but unfortunately is not taught in schools, nor rarely spoken of in the mainstream media.

Anyone who asks, "Why would anyone want to hurt us?" should take a good look at the reasons the U.S. has invaded so many countries, for what purpose and most of all who benefitted.

I actually get a bad feeling for Canada. All it is going to take is for Canadian officials to break up the wrong group or arrest the wrong terrorist and one of those 50 cells is going to plan a 911 style attack on Canadian soil. And I wish that on no one even a country that I do not always agree with.

Originally posted by zerotime

I actually get a bad feeling for Canada. All it is going to take is for Canadian officials to break up the wrong group or arrest the wrong terrorist and one of those 50 cells is going to plan a 911 style attack on Canadian soil. And I wish that on no one even a country that I do not always agree with.

I agree that they should be broke up.

Riddle me this, whats the diffrence in 30 cells, 40 cells, 50 cells or even 200 cells?

It is just lovely to see all these people concerned about the wellbeing of my country. We appreciate the concern, or at least I do.

To ease your minds about the people that enter our country through CIC, I will give you a list.

Top Ten Immigration Sources

1. China
   
2. India
   
3. Phillipines
   
4. Pakistan
   
5. United States
   
6. Iran
   
7. United Kingdom
   
8. Romania
   
9. South Korea
   
10. France
    

The only country on that list that I can think would be disturbing to Americans is Iran. And if you don't invade them, they will probably not cross the border en masse.

PS. This may seem silly, but it occurs to me that if the US government were to actually take the border crossings seriously, you wouldn't have to worry about who we let into our country. Just a thought.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
The only terrorist utopia is Iraq, Period.

It was created by the war in Iraq, Period.

u sure Iraq is the only terrorist utopia? im sure there are other disneyland like for Islamic terrorists around the world. like for example, Saudia Arabia, Pakistan, Kashmir, Checyna, Phillipines, etc.

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canada a utopia for terrorists? yeah ok but remember that at least canada trys to controll those that enter our country illigaly. not like the states that makes those who would help keep out the thousands of illigal immigrants from entering the states through the rather porous borders in the south into criminals. notto mention trying to implement plans to make such illigal immigrants welcome through programs like free medical care while most americans have to pay it themselves or buy their own medical insurance. free tuition to higher education for illigals ect. now what country is a breeding ground for future terrorists? and yes lets not forget about the us's financing of one of the ealyest and well know terrorist organizations arround, namely the ira.

now people have asked now and again why there is such disdane for americans that make them a target for terrorists. well perhapse it is from all the interferance that the us has caused since ww2 the contras leap to mind. not to mentiuon all theother groups that the us trained, advised and financed to counter the "communist threat", as well as the setting up so many puppet governments that ended up biteing them in the butts later. make no bones about it the us has caused much harm in the world, and has made themselves many enimys. now no country is not without it's share of things like this but being the biggest power of the wester nations causes them to be the most noted for it. i will also mention that when ossama was working against the communists that the us supported him and his works, but when he seemingly started to work against the us he then becomes a problem. there always has been a "you are for us or against us" mentality. as long as a group was fighting against the us's enimys then they were ok, but if they are against the us they are bad. just another showing of the hypocracy that abounds on this world, as it is not something that only the states has done but in all honesty most if not all countries do the same things.

so canada did not support the war in iraq, with no real evidance of what the stated goals were. personaly that took guts to stand up to the states just as any standing up for whats right tends to be hard. this is especialy true when you are standing up to a major friend or aly that is screaming that you only have one choice, and that choice was to either be counted as part of the solution or be counted as part of the problem. such a narrow view from a country that in the past elected to sit on the sidelines and watch the world be torn appart untill they themselves were forcefully brought into it when a sizable chunk of their naval power was destroyed in an attack. ah but when they were apparently attacked in later years they fully expected everyone to back them up with little or no proof of what there stated goals were. hypocracy? me thinks so.

let us not forget about things such as "thanks for the knife in the back france and germany" when they did not support the attack in iraq. the trying to lay the blaim on countries like canada for "letting" terrorists enter into the states to stage the purported terrorist actins on 9-11, when in reality they had been welcomed into the states with open arms and even supposidly learned how to fly those hijacked planes with the aid of flight schools in the states. but oh yeah that couln't have been they must have come from canada only they have lax boarder standards. after all it's not as if the southern boarder is easy for thousands of people to just walk accross, far better to blaim someone else.it is far easyer to tell someone to remove the splinter from their eye than to remove the plank from your own eye.

no country is blaimless in the terrorist problem after all as long as they were "our terrorists" working towards our goals was fine and dandy for so long. though when they are ours they tended to be labled as "freedom fighters". how often must a county interfere with the workings of other nations before they become responsible for fall out that ends up being created?

I'm with Halfofone on this - I'm not particularly surprised by these news items. And I don't feel threatened. True, our anti-terrorist laws aren't as elaborate as the United States', but border patrol is being beefed up, and this year's federal budget calls for increases in funding to the military. I'm all for tightening up security - and as someone who uses airports quite regularly, I see the difference.

Canada does have the obligation to defend its borders and protect its people. However, Americans should remember that protecting borders is a collaborative effort, and that while tougher Canadian immigration laws may be a good thing, Canada will not change the nature of what it is to make Americans feel safer.

Originally posted by djohnsto77perhaps even form a military and join the war on terror

Canada has had troops operating in Afghanistan for a few years (when U.S. fighter jet pilots weren't killing them by accident), and that presence is about to be increased next month.
www.forces.gc.ca...

Originally posted by djohnsto77Canada has no commitment in Iraq

No, we don't. Because we actually didn't buy what Bush said about WMDs in Iraq or Saddam being behind 9/11. And just because Bush's blunders in Iraq caused more terror doesn't mean Canada has to repair what the U.S. broke.

Doing my best home Macauley culking impersonation...Oh my GAWD Canada has terrorists cells? And all this time I thought we were a perfect country.

Some of you behave as though we still live in the 1950's where in order to be bribed, coerced and trained to become terrorists, one must actually make face to face contact with the kingpin in the kingpin's country then sneak into the country of choice.

While all of you wanting to close the border to prevent such people from crossing into the USA, you should take time to reflect that coercion, bribery and training takes place via the internet today, and recruits need not be illegal or new immigrants sneaking in, they can easily be found within the established community among born citizens, simply because they are sympathetic to the cause of their radical doctrine of their cultural roots.

Yuk !

Canada is in need of terrorist counterterrorism work, thanks to Bush/Clinton and Bush Sn.

But, Canada is a Country that accepts that and opens her doors to anti-terrorism specialists. In order to create a mood of terror defence confidence.

But perhaps Canada can do it with the similar for of ' PATRIOT ACT' so unpopular within the US domestic regions?

Yuk..

Dallas

as posted by Otts
...And just because Bush's blunders in Iraq caused more terror...

Erm, that is a typical anti-war, liberal left myth.

Anytime that you take the fight to the enemy, it is 1) his 'backyard', 2) bond to stir up the' hornets nest', so to speak. Islamic fundamentalism created more acts of terrorism because the fight was taken to them instead of 'we' just sitting back and waiting for them to pounce/commit acts of terrorism again. Also, in being in their 'backyard', they do not have to go to far to commit those acts of terrorism, do they? Just cross a border and *bam* an act of terrorism takes place, thus, equating to an increased amount of acts of terrorism. Whereas, if we were not in their 'backyard', they would have had to come to us, equating to no increase in acts of terrorism.

As such, where are we?
Would you say right in the middle of the 'hornets nest'?
Those Islamic fundamentalists are lining up to be the next suicide bomber = act of terrorism, coming in from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, etc. Hence the increase in acts of terrorism or as you and others would say: "The Iraq war has caused more acts of terrorism". Well duh!

Yeah, I suppose the anti-war, left liberals can use twisted logic to assert such.....but one thing I do know, is that when you stand among a mass of pissed off 'hornets', your bound to get stung a hellva' lot more times than just once, whereas, if I had avoided standing in the midst of those pissed off 'hornets', I might have been stung maybe once or twice.....







seekerof

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Yeah, I suppose the anti-war, left liberals can use twisted logic to assert such.....but one thing I do know, is that when you stand among a mass of pissed off 'hornets', your bound to get stung a hellva' lot more times than just once, whereas, if I had avoided standing in the midst of those pissed off 'hornets', I might have been stung maybe once or twice.....

Well cant argue your logic
If you stand among a mass of pissed off hornets your going to get stung.
On the the other hand who in their right mind stands in a swarm of angry hornets?

Most intelligent people use long range precision strikes with hornet spray directed at the source of infestation to deal with such situations. They dont place a hornets nest in the neighbors yard kick it over and then cover them selves in hornet pheromones to draw every hornet in the next three counties over so they can solve the hornet problem once and for all. Better the hornets are going crazy in your neighbors yard then yours right besides everyone knows a the swarm of hornets will get tired before you do right? I mean its not like a anyone has ever died when they decided to go mano a mano with a swarm of angry insects. I guess the fact that there are more hornets then ever in your neighborhood is irrelevant. I mean its not like they're going to follow you back to your place once you arbitrarily declare your "War on Hornets" is over.

Sounds like something Tim the Tool man would try.
Well I guess thats what happen when you elect Tim the Toolman as president.

Hmm I talked about this a few days ago. Funny, the thread received little to no replies.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by djohnsto77
Canada is obviously a haven for terrorists, we actually caught the guy who wanted to blow up LAX airport crossing into the U.S. from Canada.

I don't know why they'd directly attack Canada though, since that might actually wake up the Canadians and convince them to control their borders, break up terrorist groups, and perhaps even form a military and join the war on terror. I think it'd be better for the terrorists to just use the sleeping Canada as a launching point for attacking the U.S.

I think you get to skip the draft with that beautifully delivered party line. Viva la Communism. And you guys always accuse us of being communists for being so "LIBERAL". Such a dirty word, kinda like compasion. Stop starting wars and meddling in other countries business and maybe you won't have terrorists. Actually negotiate, that's almost as foreign to you as compasion.

Don't let it bother you. I suggest you support the US as their fighting and dieing for Bush's cause.
Their a brave and respected Country who are friends to Canada. The US operates under its own priciples when it comes to fighting where the Canadians operate either under NATO or United Nations' policies.

But the US is basically brothers to the Canadians and so I suggest Canadians be patient with them - Bush will soon be out of office!

Dallas

Being compassionate towards terrorists is exactly what makes you a terrorist utopia!

:shk:

Originally posted by djohnsto77
Being compassionate towards terrorists is exactly what makes you a terrorist utopia!

:shk:

You should be shot for treason on the front lawn of AboveTopSecret for failing to abide by the principles that govern this website. Deny Ignorance!

For that you are guilty and should face punishement

Originally posted by DEEZNUTZ
You should be shot for treason on the front lawn of AboveTopSecret for failing to abide by the principles that govern this website. Deny Ignorance!

For that you are guilty and should face punishement

So the banner of liberalism and compassion towards terrorists that want to kill is denying ignorance?

I think you should look closer to home for the ripest targets...

Perhaps you will consider giving me the full English version of what your putting across so I will answer clearly?

Dallas

Originally posted by djohnsto77
Being compassionate towards terrorists is exactly what makes you a terrorist utopia!

:shk:

How exactly is Canada compassionate towards terrorists?