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posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Hey look!!!
This should make you guys feel better.

Just a pity more women and children weren't killed though, huh?

news.bbc.co.uk...


Well it doesnt make me feel better, onthe contrary .. it's a shame. But i'm not so surprised as you are (or feign to be) since Israel killed five Palestinians last week and menaced to bomb Beyrouth..




posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:45 AM
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i have never been there but i am not suprised by the things you experienced. there are even groups against israel within the jewish community. its called jews for justice, and they are a good group, anti zionist all the way.



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi

But i'm not so surprised as you are (or feign to be) since Israel killed five Palestinians last week and menaced to bomb Beyrouth..



I'm not suprised.
And I'm not suprised by your reply either.
I expected the usual attempt at justification for the murder of innocent civilians.
As usual, you didn't let me down.



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Rats like you two belong in the basement.


Leveller, if u are gonna insult somebody stay out of this thread, open a new thread or something about insult because is the only thing u keep on doing,amd also acuse, avoid insult members, i thought you were an adult, and as an adult you should disscuss things with respect.
Well i really get sick of all those people just " putting the ticket of Anti Semite" just because u hate israel, the zionists, and Sharons Politics...
If u have no brain enough to still say this Leveller
"I find anti semites like yourself and Cold Anger strange."
Then dont post in my threads again, DONT, IVE SAID 200 TIMES THAT I AM NOT ANTI SEMITE AND I HATE PEOPLE THAT CALLS ME THAT, but it seems that u search in name just want you want to find, anyway, dont make that statement again, because it will be like calling yourself Stupid for understand what i try to say, ive already had disscussion about this, search threads and read, get real leveller and stop accussing me from being that, because ill start to think that u are retarted and u dont understand what you read...

Anyway about the suicide bomber, nobody supports them, and they kill innocents, but the IDF kills innoncents and people supports it.
THINK!
Israel is a VERY RICH COUNTRY, and Palestine isi destroyed already by them, hospitals schools, police, water, electricity, even their own houses, targeted with missiles, apaches, tanks, bulldozers, and u complaint because somebody sick of this puts a bomb to himself to get back some of that?
Well then if i see you time defending the theory of americans "The revenge Theory", that if they attacked they will attack with furious anger back, more than what it was originally, and thats basiclly what happens all around the globe, your tries of "Zionists Tactis of blame" is not gonna work, and please stop it.



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:58 AM
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Well Cold Anger.
Firstly, this is an open forum so I'll post when and where I like.
If you don't want me to post in your threads - tough titty.

Secondly, I never attack Islam or the Palestinians, whereas you attack one side all the time.
Balance dear boy. You have none of it.

Thirdly, you don't like being called anti-semite. Dude. What can I say. I don't know wether to laugh at you for denying your own true feelings or to pity you.

Fourthly, with regards to my insulting you?
I would suggest with all respect and reverence that you kneel and kiss my big hairy butt.

By the way. Nice to see you using your own usual brand of logic. Take a look at the last paragraph you wrote where you state that nobody supports suicide bombers and then write a load of crap justifying them.

Double standards and hypocrisy.



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller

Daystar. If you think I'm being harsh, why don't you just go to the search function at the top of the page. Tap in the names of either Cold Anger or Mokuhadzushi. You might be suprised at the results which come back.




In my post 102550 in the thread "What is a jew"
you can see how "anti semite i am"

www.jewsagainstzionism.com...

www.jewsagainstzionism.com...

www.nkusa.org...

www.jewsnotzionists.org...

www.netureikartauk.org...

www.jewsagainsttheoccupation.org...

Enjoy some real links and leveller get real, understand that there is a difference, between the state of isreal, the jews and the Zionists.
If is not clear enough, sorry i cant help u anymore, but at least i tried...



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller

Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi

But i'm not so surprised as you are (or feign to be) since Israel killed five Palestinians last week and menaced to bomb Beyrouth..



I'm not suprised.
And I'm not suprised by your reply either.
I expected the usual attempt at justification for the murder of innocent civilians.
As usual, you didn't let me down.



I am not justifying or condoning the murder of innocent civilians in any way. Look my even first sentence was to point out that it's horrible. Nevertheless, extremist action was to be expected after Israel's threats against Lebanon, the bombing in Beyrouth and the killing of five palestinians. As long as no one is willing to give up the escalation strategy, there will never be peace. it's as simple as that. However, this latest escalation of violence can clearly be blamed on Israel, IMO.



[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Mokuhadzushi]



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi

I am not justifying or condoning the murder of innocent civilians in any way.
However, this latest escalation of violence can clearly be blamed on Israel, IMO.





Look at the 2 sentences above.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you understand the English language?



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 07:42 AM
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Well, if events that ultimately caused these bombings were foreseen by Israel as they killed 5 palestinians last week, Israel is responsible for the escalating quality of the conflict. However, everyone who commits crimes during that escalation is responsible for his own actions. I see no contradiction there. Same thing, if palestinians provoke an escalation by sending suicide bombers in times of truce, it would be them who would have been responsible for breaking the truce, yet any IDF action against palestinian civilians would have still been criminal.

[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Mokuhadzushi]



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 03:40 PM
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The anti-boycott provisions bar U.S. companies from providing information about their business relationships with Israel. They also require that receipt of boycott requests be reported to the Bureau of Industry and Security, formerly known as the Bureau of Export Administration.


This is truly disturbing....even considering the counter-points made immediately following the post. Nobody should be "reported" for boycotting something, regardless of circumstances. This is NOT a dictatorship, and we should be free to voice our objections through any boycott we wish, and to feel that we can do so, without government persecution....



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 03:47 PM
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Well said Gazrok. Israel has a little more control over the US than I am comfortable with.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by Daystar
secondly, i would just like to point out the term 'Nazi' originally meant 'Nationlist Socialists'


True, but a rose by any other name still has thorns.


Originally posted by Daystarand in case anyone is wondering, I HATE ISRAEL. i am not anti semetic, i am anti zionist, and if you fancy trying to tar me with the brush of being anti semetic, i will simply say; "Typical Zionist Tactics"


So tell me in your own words what the distinction is?



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Thirdly, you don't like being called anti-semite. Dude. What can I say. I don't know wether to laugh at you for denying your own true feelings or to pity you.


Yeah dude, those are also anti-semites


DEMONSTRATION AGAINST VISIT OF ARIAL SHARON
WHITE HOUSE, WASHINGTON DC - 29 JULY 2003







PROTESTS OF THE VISIT BY
ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER, ARIAL SHARON
LONDON, UK - JULY 14, 2003







Next time you still think the same, i wont try to explain it anymore, ill think that u are the one that doesnt WANT to understand...


[Edited on 13-8-2003 by CoLD aNGeR]



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by Mycroft


Originally posted by Daystarand in case anyone is wondering, I HATE ISRAEL. i am not anti semetic, i am anti zionist, and if you fancy trying to tar me with the brush of being anti semetic, i will simply say; "Typical Zionist Tactics"


So tell me in your own words what the distinction is?


Tell me if these are jews. As you probably know islamic fundamentalists are being disowned by most muslims. Is the same true for jews ? What does the little jewish boy do there ? Is it good to kick a palestinian ? How are these people being raised ?





[Edited on 13-8-2003 by Mokuhadzushi]



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
Tell me if these are jews. As you probably know islamic fundamentalists are being disowned by most muslims. Is the same true for jews ? What does the little jewish boy do there ? Is it good to kick a palestinian ? How are these people being raised ?



I asked you to tell me the difference between anti-semitism and anti-zionism. Instead you show me a picture?!

Let me rephrase the question:

What is a zionist and why is it bad?



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by CoLD aNGeR
IVE SAID 200 TIMES THAT I AM NOT ANTI SEMITE AND I HATE PEOPLE THAT CALLS ME THAT,




Lot's of people criticize Sharon and Israels policies towards the Palestinian-Arabs who are not anti-semetic. Those are tough issues with lots of room for disagreement.

But it's hard to take your protestations seriously when you choose an avatar that's an octopus with a star of david with its tentacles wrapped around the world.

If you don't like being called a duck, stop quacking.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by Mycroft

Originally posted by CoLD aNGeR
IVE SAID 200 TIMES THAT I AM NOT ANTI SEMITE AND I HATE PEOPLE THAT CALLS ME THAT,




Lot's of people criticize Sharon and Israels policies towards the Palestinian-Arabs who are not anti-semetic. Those are tough issues with lots of room for disagreement.

But it's hard to take your protestations seriously when you choose an avatar that's an octopus with a star of david with its tentacles wrapped around the world.

If you don't like being called a duck, stop quacking.


I guess you do not know the meaning of my avatar,
do you know what zionism is?
Did u see the pictures above?
Do u see jewish with the David start getting the sign of "not allowed"?
Maybe your problem is that you dont understand that there is a more than 1 type of jew right?
and that Zionism is an ENEMY!
My avatar doesnt represent the jewish community, it represents the zionist community, please read before say something like this again. ok?



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by Mycroft

Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
Tell me if these are jews. As you probably know islamic fundamentalists are being disowned by most muslims. Is the same true for jews ? What does the little jewish boy do there ? Is it good to kick a palestinian ? How are these people being raised ?



I asked you to tell me the difference between anti-semitism and anti-zionism. Instead you show me a picture?!

Let me rephrase the question:

What is a zionist and why is it bad?


You are dodging the question, so i am answering it for you : These people are being taught to hate muslims. That is not a universalist approach to humanity. The only excuse for that is to breed a generation of emotionally handicapped haters to defend Israel and molest palestinians. But then what have these people who call themselves jews become ? Certainly not an example for others to follow. Hence not jews.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 05:58 AM
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posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 11:41 AM
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Thank you, infintie and Cold Anger, for pointing out to these racist twinkies what a Zionist is. Zionists are Jews (and self hating Gentiles) but, as has been shown, there are loads of Jews out there who oppose not only the state of Israel, but Zionism in general as going against the prophecies which state only the Lord, not men can give the children of Israel back thier promised land, and that the Jewish exile into other countries was the punishment of Israel for its pride, arrogance, and definace of god. These people believe that the Israelites must learn this lesson of humility, since it was god who ordered thier dispersal and deliverance into the hands of Gentiles to teach them good faith. Thats thier belief.

Zionism is based on the Talmud, which is a book that makes Mein Kampf look like kids lit. It was written later, and goes beyond arrogance, even putting the Jew at the same level as god. Many kews in recent times have been turning from it, finding its passages hateful and offensive, yet many jews still hold its words dear to thier heart, thus, Zionist Jews.

Leveler, youre supreme ignorance on the subject, as well as your inability to use words properly is disturbing, and well, would be more amusing if it wasnt the fact the Zionism is a real threat.

Anti Semetism: hating Semites. The vast majority of Zionists cant even claim this term, as the vast majority of Jews arent even Semetic. Through thier exile into other lands, they have intermarried with thier Gentile hosts, thus, not even being true semites anymore, save for 10% of the jewish population. There are Asian jews now, Black jews, European jews, even Jews in Mexico. Semite is an ETHNIC group. Arabs fall into this category. They are semites, and Zionists are anti Semetic, because they seek to destroy Arabs, the Semites. Youre so brainwashed by Zionist propoganda you cant even see this obvious fact, and you accuse anyone who doesnt bootlick the Zionist overlords as being anti Semite. You MUST be Zionist, or one hell of a good lackey.

Zionist is racist to the point it almost dwarfs anything Hitler and his blonde robots could come up with. Israel is instituting the same laws the Nazis used against them (racial purity laws, anti marriage, automatic citizenship, dual citizenship, camps, fences, ect) If you cant see the similarities, you definitely have to be Zionist or one of thier bootlicking toads.

Kudos to Cold for this article. I feel anyone anywhere in the world has the right to boycott whoever they wish. You support a french boycott, Leveler..........Yet you oppose one on Israel? Why? The Arabs have every right to boycott Israel, Just as Israel ahs the right to boycott them. Since the Israelis pretty much have decalred war against the Arab world, and have done nothing but terrorize and abuse the Arabs and defame Islam. Why should they buy Israli products? Hell, I have the right to ask if a product is made in israel, if i wish to boycott, which I do. Its my money, it is my RIGHT to chose whose hands it falls into, and the less I support Israel and its genocidal racial p[olicies and its drain on my country the better. And companies should not have to report such questions either. Its none of the govornments damn business who boycotts what. The govornment has forced its own Boycotts, yet, when it comes to master Israel, oh, no, we forbid it!

Pretty damn totolitarian to me! You support this? You are giving away this country to its enemies and the people who continue to kill it.

That in my mind makes you a traitor, fool.






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