Question "Is any of this stuff made in Israel?" Answer Fine of 6000 $

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posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:06 AM
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Company fined $6,000 for answering customer's question

"Is any of this stuff made in Israel?"

A Missouri company has been fined $6,000 for answering a customer's question and not reporting to the federal government that the question was asked. The question that's punished by law is: Are any of these products made in Israel, or made of Israeli materials?

The Kansas City Star reports:
The anti-boycott provisions bar U.S. companies from providing information about their business relationships with Israel. They also require that receipt of boycott requests be reported to the Bureau of Industry and Security, formerly known as the Bureau of Export Administration.
We ask: Why is this question forbidden? Why is any question forbidden?

It sounds more like the USSR than the USA, to punish people for asking a forbidden question, or for not immediately reporting to the government that someone else asked a forbidden question.

Only a few years ago, during South Africa's apartheid era, it was considered the height of good moral backbone to ask whether a product came from that country. Today, many Americans are asking such questions about products they suspect came from France, after the French government declined to join "Operation Iraqi Freedom."

The article doesn't make it clear whether these restrictions apply only to US companies selling stuff outside the US, or whether the law applies to everyone. Either way, it's reprehensible.

Rest of article:
www.unknownnews.net...




posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:17 AM
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Reprehensible in your eyes.
But as usual you haven't given the whole story and only take the facts that you can twist around to make your point of hatred.

Why did you edit out the fact that it was an Arab company from Bahrain who made the inquiry?

Why did you edit out the fact that this law is "aimed at countering the Arab boycott of Israel."?

Why did you edit out the fact that the company didn't even bother to reply to the charge - Cook, of North Kansas City, neither admitted nor denied the allegations, but agreed to pay the $6,000 civil penalty."?

Why did you edit out the reason for the law - "The settlement with the Commerce Department came after the Bush administration in November warned U.S. companies not to heed calls to boycott Israeli goods and services. The warning followed a call by the 22-member Arab League to reactivate its decades-long boycott of Israel."?


Why did you edit the facts that justified the actions of the governement in upholding a law that forbids unfair business practices?
Both you and I know why you edited it out. I only hope that others reading your post realise what your true motives are.

[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Leveller]



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:35 AM
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My question is what do we care that Arabs are boycotting Israel??
Who cares?? Did not we boycott South Africa because we did not like their internal policies?


[Edited on 8-12-2003 by groingrinder]



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Reprehensible in your eyes.
But as usual you haven't given the whole story and only take the facts that you can twist around to make your point of hatred.

Why did you edit out the fact that it was an Arab company from Bahrain who made the inquiry?

Why did you edit out the fact that this law is "aimed at countering the Arab boycott of Israel."?

Why did you edit out the fact that the company didn't even bother to reply to the charge - Cook, of North Kansas City, neither admitted nor denied the allegations, but agreed to pay the $6,000 civil penalty."?

Why did you edit out the reason for the law - "The settlement with the Commerce Department came after the Bush administration in November warned U.S. companies not to heed calls to boycott Israeli goods and services. The warning followed a call by the 22-member Arab League to reactivate its decades-long boycott of Israel."?


Why did you edit the facts that justified the actions of the governement in upholding a law that forbids unfair business practices?
Both you and I know why you edited it out. I only hope that others reading your post realise what your true motives are.

[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Leveller]


For 1 time get real, and see, i didnt make any personal comment in this thread, even the name is the name of the article, the order of the sentences are the same as posted in that article, and i did not mention anything, all words in this thread arent mine, if u want to blame somebody (as u usually do) blame the writer of the article and not me, i didnt choose to not show the whole article, i just simply because IN ATS you should post 3 or 4 sentences of the article and post the link for the rest of it, if you dont believe ask bob88, he actually gets sick of people posting a whole article while that article already exists in the net, and they are wasting Bandwith in this server, and wasting Space of this server.Therefore i didnt post anything, the only one wanting to twist something is you trying to blame me



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:38 AM
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I dont get it..

Why cant you boycott things that are made from the country you dont want to fund??

Alot of aussies here in Sydney boycott U.S.A and Israeli products (Not DVD's there too cool to boycott)

i always thought U.S.A was a free country?



Guerilla



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Both you and I know why you edited it out. I only hope that others reading your post realise what your true motives are.

[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Leveller]


My true motives?
Well at least i know that u dont know them never, or at least you dont show any sign of understand what i try to mean in all the threads i create, because if u did, u wouldnt make such comments...

Anyway leveller next time u want to acuse me of Hatred, first check if i did write ONE WORD in the thread ok?
Btw if u are gonna say something like "unknown news are anti semite" then u are going to far, there are a lot of articles in ATS coming from that source, and they are precise and good articles most of them.



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:51 AM
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Leveller, i find it also strange how you feel the constant need to smear the author of a thread if that thread doesnt fit into your world view.

If that law was applicable towards all countries, i'd say wow that's great, an anti-discrimination law. But since it's only applicable to Israel, it's just evidence of US bootlicking towards their harsh nazi mistress Sharon.

[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Mokuhadzushi]



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:53 AM
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So much for freedom of expression, thought, speech etc.

i didnt know that aussies were boycotting the states though.

leveller, that was a bit of a heavy handed attack. lets just all relax and debate this CONSTRUCTIVELY, hmmm?



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 05:56 AM
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Man like I said they cant boycott DVD's and american music too


[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Guerilla]



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
Leveller, i find it also strange how you feel the constant need to smear the author of a thread if that thread doesnt fit into your world view.

If that law was applicable towards all countries, i'd say wow that's great, an anti-discrimination law. But since it's only applicable to Israel, it's just evidence of US bootlicking towards their harsh nazi mistress Sharon.

[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Mokuhadzushi]


Somebody that made a smart comment
"If that law was applicable towards all countries, i'd say wow that's great, an anti-discrimination law. But since it's only applicable to Israel...."

Is something like that what makes you think how much they protect "Israel" from everything, is like a baby that never grows up... Come on dudes Wake up!!!
"



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
Leveller, i find it also strange how you feel the constant need to smear the author of a thread if that thread doesnt fit into your world view.

If that law was applicable towards all countries, i'd say wow that's great, an anti-discrimination law. But since it's only applicable to Israel, it's just evidence of US bootlicking towards their harsh nazi master Sharon.


You find it strange?
I find anti semites like yourself and Cold Anger strange.

You can't be reasoned with. You can't be argued with. You have no logic. You deny truth.

My world view is not based on hatred whilst as you have yet again proven - yours is. Sharon is a "Nazi"? No. The Nazis were the guys who gassed the Jews. Or did you conveniently forget that too?

Daystar. If you think I'm being harsh, why don't you just go to the search function at the top of the page. Tap in the names of either Cold Anger or Mokuhadzushi. You might be suprised at the results which come back.



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by CoLD aNGeR

Is something like that what makes you think how much they protect "Israel" from everything, is like a baby that never grows up... Come on dudes Wake up!!!
"


Yes or like a retarded child you hide in the basement



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:04 AM
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Rats like you two belong in the basement.



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:07 AM
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Leveller, your only function in this thread so far was to parade in, and spout "You are all antisemites i can't discuss anything with you" and then insult the author of the thread. If you can't constructively contribute to a thread, simply stay out of it...



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:12 AM
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i was trying to calm things down, ok? so chill out, please. i didnt mean to pi$$ you off man, i was just trying to stop the thread degenerating into a bitchfight

secondly, i would just like to point out the term 'Nazi' originally meant 'Nationlist Socialists'

and in case anyone is wondering, I HATE ISRAEL. i am not anti semetic, i am anti zionist, and if you fancy trying to tar me with the brush of being anti semetic, i will simply say; "Typical Zionist Tactics"



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Sharon is a "Nazi"? No. The Nazis were the guys who gassed the Jews. Or did you conveniently forget that too?


Man I have been to "Palestine" and trust me if Sharon had gass chambers, he would use it on ever Palestinion!!

Guerilla



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:22 AM
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geurilla knows what he's talking about

g, did you go with the ISF? if you did then you should know who i mean



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:30 AM
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Hey look!!!
This should make you guys feel better.

Just a pity more women and children weren't killed though, huh?

news.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:31 AM
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No sorry i didnt
I went with a mate who had Family there, i didnt really go out much, i was freaked out 24/7 for 1 month,
I was willing to stay there for longer but my friend was the one who wanted to go, all you hear at night is gun shots, and Damn Israles Chanting songs from there Humvs(if thats how u spell it), they actually call to people on the PA speaker of the car and start harrasing them, i was Freaked out man.
but i meet some guys that were part of Haamas(so they say), they have Ballz to do what they do!!!

anyways i wont be able to answer alot of question as i was indoors most the times, i just went out to visit Ex Palestinean land that my friends grandfather used to own. It was very sad

Guerilla



posted on Aug, 12 2003 @ 06:40 AM
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I will be honest with you Leveller,
I think thats totally wrong and the only thing that going to happen when they do these things like Suicide bombings (Excuse my English) is more Israle retaliation and more dead Palestinean will come of this.
But i also have to remind you that, those bombings are not part of the religion, they are doing it out of Desprate mesures, believe me when i say this!!



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