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Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
Yes, but they have only caught up to stuff that we've, once again, put out long ago. America's FCS program will be kicking in this decade, and by 2020, should be fully implemented. The technology involved here is far ahead of anything I've seen from China.
Not to mention China still needs to make huge improvements to the training and organization of their ground forces.
China has a short time span right now where they look far closer to us then we are, and that's because America is in the middle of making the switch to the next generation, while China is reaching where we were before.
If China were to wage a war within the next five years, I believe they'd have a far better chance of victory against America then they would in 10 or 15 years.
I think Russian aid has reached its limits. China should be approaching a level where they on par with Russia within the next ten years. China, if it hopes to catch up with America, is going to have to do the rest on their own.
Even with a stronger economy, it does not guarentee military supremacy. America could adapt in its current state. America's debt and such are not caused by military spending, but our massive social programs. Most of this could easily be cut if needed. We could be spending the same amount, or more then China.
If America's threatened, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see us form a super economic block with the rest of North America, which is really only going to evolve and turn it into one single nation.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Hold up, hold up, hold up, I know someone didn’t make this mistake!
Our defense budget is 466Billon thank you very much not 400Billion like someone said
china also has a similar FCS program. it involes better guns and armour. indurance pills.
with increased economic development it increases that likeyhood of new military development.
china with its increased economic power should also focus on a economic block with asia
Why does america spend so much on its military? are they planing world conquest?
how much of the worls poor can you feed with 1% of that
Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
Care to provide a link?
And Russia's economy could not possibly keep up with China's.
What does China stand to gain? The rich nations around it are American allies, and dont' like China. Those that aren't are just dirt poor, and many of them still hate China.
China's large enough, and an EU style economic block is highly unlikely to form.
That's the thing; America's military budget is a smaller part of its GDP then what most nations spend. That includes China, and much of Europe.
This also shows just how much room for growth America's military budget truly has. We stay decades ahead of the rest of the world without trying still. We could easily be spending twice what we currently spend, and it stll wouldn't do us any harm.
[edit on 18-6-2005 by Disturbed Deliverer]
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Hold up, hold up, hold up, I know someone didn’t make this mistake!
Our defense budget is 466Billon thank you very much not 400Billion like someone said
russia defense spending somewhere around 50billion. russias economy was shiet in the 90s but has jumped back with some inpressive growth under putain
yeah there is japan that doesn't like china? any other.. hate china for what
america needs that money to manitain her forces and keep her forces supplied. how much of that goes towards R&D?
china most probally will skip 4th generation fighters for the majority of her airforce and move straight on to 5th gen.. china just needs enough 4th gen to keep taiwan at bay..
I know it was a lot more than 400 billion, so I wrote 400++ billion dollars. Spending that much on a military is just overkill
Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
It's only half the size of America. They will never be what they were before.
How about Vietnam, and Mongolia? OH, India, too.
The money just for development is still probably more then the entire Chinese defense budget.
They won't field a reliable fifth generation plane for at least another ten years. That's too much time to not have something that can compete with your rivals. China has mage huge investments in their J-10, and they planned on making some 700 last I heard.
Originally posted by Figher Master FIN
DOes anybody think that CHina will pass Amrca in technology...?
what do you mean they will never be what they were? economic or military
vietnam.. hahaha vietnam
64.233.179.104...:YJQcF2IhOtIJ:www.asianscholarship.org/publications/papers/Gu%2520Xiaosong-SinoVietnamese%2520Relations.doc+chines e+vietnamese+relations&hl=en&client=firefox-a
mogolia
: jamestown did a whole article thing on it
www.jamestown.org...
india
:read some papers indian chinese relations haven't been better since 1961
chinas military budget doesn't cover the R&D side. R&D on a domestic airplane can also be used on a chiense fighter program. whatever is researched on the military normaly finds its way into the cillivan market
our only rival is taiwan. and i dont see taiwan in 10 years getting a 5th generation aircraft. 10 years is plenty of time to get a 5th gen aircraft.
how much of the worls poor can you feed with 1% of that