i don't agree that we are incapable or totally unsuited to eat/digest meats, though just perhaps large portions, or diets which mainly revolve around
them. i think the point is that we CAN live with it, and we CAN live without it (same goes for dairy, and any food really). i don't think there is a
point arguing how long one's life can be, considering that you could die at any given moment in this reality, but rather that it's all just a matter
of how WELL you can live it.
for informations sake, here are some alternative sources of protein (considering that it is natural/organic):
tempeh, tofu, sea vegetables (arame, dulse, kelp, kombu, nori, and spirulina), miso, nuts (almond, cashew, chestnut, hazelnut, peanut, pecan, pine
nut, pistachio, walnut, ect), seeds (sunflower, flaxseed, pumpkin, sesame, etc), beans/legumes, whey, eggs, yogurt, cheese, etc.
even though there is controversy regarding the last three, in vegetarians mainly, i mentioned them simply on nutritional content, in regards to
something that isn't meat, but is produced by animals some do eat.
dfh out
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Cybertoy, actually, that's the idea of eating meals that include beans and peanuts, since they are seen by all nutritionists as a totally valid
replacement for meat. And no, there a no nutriments which are exclusive to meat.
And MauiStacey, you should try a TVP cheeseburger... The ones at Harvey's are not bad actually, but someone can make some even better ones at home on
the barbecue, with bits of TVP, Worcestershire sauce, flour, hot water and a little bit of beef stock. You won't tell the difference, and it won't
add anything to that tire around your stomach 
[edit on 5/5/05 by Echtelion]
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sorry vegi burgers are gross.  now a nice juicy ground, round patty yum.
as for eating "organic", or "free range" it would be nice but unfortunately i live on a small budget. i can't afford to pay the exorbitant prices
they charge for it. jsut as any "special" product costs more.
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Wow!
This thread has really grown since lst I've visited it!
Guess what. This meat-eater is still alive! AS a matter of fact, I am absolutley thriving on meat! Why? It has the proteins my body needs to
operate at peak efficiency.
As a matter of fact, I've incorporated a work out regimen with a proper diet that includes meat (yes, luscious, red, animal flesh!) and I am growing
stronger and feeling even better than I already did!
Keep discussing that vegetarian crystal-gazing concept! Talk more people into going fruity-pebbles! Maybe that'll make the price of protein-rich
meat go down! Then, I'll eat even more of the life-giving flesh.
Please, try and get people to think that veggie-proteins and animal proteins are interchangeable! Whatever it takes!
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I'm not arguing about whether meat is good for us. Again, I do question the use of the planets resources with respect to baren cow fields and such.
Why don't farmers put more trees in their fields? Hell, if I was a cow, I wouldn't want to be out in that crappy shadeless cowfield all day. I've
had the idea of lines of trees. This would make hay bailing near as simple and provide some shade for earth and those cows. And again, I do protest
the leveling of a rainforest to put cows there. Totally irresponsible.
Mother nature is going to kick our ass if we aren't more responsible with this planet. We might not be here to enjoy that steak.
As an extra note, there is also the practice of eating sprouted beans, seeds, and nuts. Sprouting creates a very nutrient rich food. And you also
have enzymes. I believe it can make the seeds and nuts more digestible.
We just need to look at our resources and figure out what we are going to do about effectively feeding the people of earth. And we need to look at
our population in relation to our resources.
I love steak too, but am I supposed to say screw everyone else on planet earth, level another rainforest and make way for cattle?
Troy
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 Originally posted by dollmonster
Don't you see that by boycotting mass produced meat you take a stand against all of these issues? If you want to eat meat, of course it's your
prerogative. But at least make an effort to stop the insane practices of agribusiness. Buy "free range" and "organic" please!
If you've never seen what goes on in "factory farms" watch this please!
www.petatv.com...
PETA is aggressive to be sure. I call them the "Malcolm X" of the animal rights movement. But sometimes it takes violence's to be noticed, and
before there can be change there must be recognition! 
I'll start eating free range and organic once P.E.T.A stops their heartless killing of animals. That's right, under the facade of a
"holier-than-thou" attitude P.E.T.A is performing euthanasia on thousands of animals a year. www.petakillsanimals.com...
At least the animals in that video of yours are serving a purpose, they are used for nutrition, a perfectly legitimate reason if I may say so myself.
Mean while P.E.T.A advocates lecture the rest of us as they send this message to children.
www.petakillsanimals.com...
(scroll down to the bottom of the page and view the PDF please)
You might call them the "Malcolm X" of animal rights I call them...misguided. I have nothing against vegans, I admire your determination and
compassion. As an owner of two dogs and several fish I hate animal cruelty as much as the next guy, but please, consider what P.E.T.A is really doing
the next time you think about defending them.
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