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Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

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posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Kostya
Sleeper,
How do ETs feel about high-risk activities, such as motorcycles and sky diving?


Makes no difference to them



If you take part in these activities, don't take the time to ensure your safety (i.e. riding like an idiot), and kill yourself - could this be treated like a suicide?


Only if it is suicide



In particular, where would the line be drawn between
a) riding while feeling miserable/depressed, going too fast, crashing, dying
b) riding with the intention of ending your life, purposely crashing, dying


We can’t disguise our motives from ET; they know why we do what we do

Suicide is contemplated more often than sex here on good old third rock from the sun----most people realize the impact it would have on loved ones and never take it to the next level




posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
We can’t disguise our motives from ET; they know why we do what we do

If "ET" tells me that, I'll buy it. Otherwise, no "they" don't. "They" don't have a clue.


Suicide is contemplated more often than sex here on good old third rock from the sun

That's ludicrous sleeper. You have absolutely know way of knowing that, or backing it up with any kind of fact.

Cue your 'ad hominem' attack.

NC



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 06:04 AM
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hey, sleepy...
im kidding. SLEEPER...
...
can a single person be abducted more than once???



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by beefstoogh

can a single person be abducted more than once???





There has to be some entertainment value for them to abduct a person more than once, apparently I’m good for laughs-----





[edit on 24-4-2006 by sleeper]



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by NotClever

That's ludicrous sleeper. You have absolutely know way of knowing that, or backing it up with any kind of fact.


Suicide is taboo, and few would admit to ever thinking about it-----it’s against many peoples’ religion and beliefs, yet that hasn’t stopped people from doing things they believe wrong----suicide for the clergy is way up there-----only surpassed by the medical professionals

Only a fraction of people who think about it actually commit suicide

Have you NC ever thought about suicide? Would you tell anyone if you did? ----Not likely

And don’t turn the question on me, because I’m not telling either

We don’t talk about it because it’s perceived as a sign of mental illness----failure in life----or weakness

Who in their right mind would admit to any of those things?-----how many in the population qualify?



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper

Only a fraction of people who think about it actually commit suicide

Correct, many people who think about it and talk about it are exhibiting a 'cry for help' and may never carry it out.


Have you NC ever thought about suicide? Would you tell anyone if you did? ----Not likely

Of course, I ponder many things that I don't understand. I have never thought of commiting suicide. Again, you're making a broad generalization, I believe the literature shows that suicidal people are more likely to mention suicide or show an interest in the topic.


We don’t talk about it because it’s perceived as a sign of mental illness----failure in life----or weakness

For a galactic traveler you're exhibiting some interesting narrow-mindedness here. That is a distinctly western point of view. re: Islamic martyrdom, Japanese seppuku, the self-immolation of Buddhist monks in S. Vietnam, where the act of suicide is considered highly honorable, completely sane, and culturally valued.

Thank you for your measured response.

NC


[edit on 18-4-2006 by NotClever]



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 05:36 PM
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Why anyone would give 2 hangnails what ET thinks about what we do when they have no part in our existence other than being very annoying with their childish hide and seek games is beyond me.

The various studies I've read point to man being a sexual thinker and not an overall suicidal person. One study claims that men think about sex almost as often as they blink(no I won't cite them do your own homework).

Man controls his own destiny and no one else. And as a whole we're doin a lousy job of it. Et can't help us or fix it or whatever. Get over it. Be your own person and stop trying to lay the blame on someone else. Take responsibility and if you screw up admit it and if you succeed then crow like a rooster. Just don't expect for nonexistant entities to be your fall guy.

Above all else be honest both to yourself and to others.



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 10:51 PM
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>Man controls his own destiny and no one else.
So what would you make of the reports that some people had visions of the tsunami of somewhat recent fame several weeks before the actual event.

There are also a considerable number of enormously creative people that feel they are getting some kind of help...

Not to mention a huge number of cultural references of taking things to a higher plane (lotsa combinations of words conveying the same concept
) for secours in whatever.



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 11:06 PM
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"OF COURSE they're real" says Micheal Jackson as he rubs the 'nose' on his face...



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 03:13 AM
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Hi Sleeper. I have read this thread through and through and I am so happy that you STILL reply. I have 1 question. I am an artist and I have always wondered where the 'spark' comes from...So according to you...it's aliens. I believe in E.T., but I do not believe for a second that great artists like Miles Davis, Picasso, Van Gohg, Jimi Hendrix, Lennon /Mccartney(Harrison) had an E.T. intervention. To think that these individuals did not have original and brilliant artistic responces to the time that was given to them is, for lack of a better term, stupid. I will not say that these people did noy believe in E.T., but for god's sake, please give credit to the 'HUMAN CONDITION'. That is what these great artists had to work with,NOT E.T.! Peace!

P.S. I know that you are rather...poetic...(maybe for the board) ...so if you care to u2u me!



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 05:07 AM
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ok, sleeper, im freaking out here. i dreampt that i was abducted yesterday, & i felt some things they were doing to me. lately, i dunno why, but ive been having dreams that i could feel, smell, taste...please tell me what you think. im freaking out here.



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by beefstoogh
ok, sleeper, im freaking out here. i dreampt that i was abducted yesterday, & i felt some things they were doing to me. lately, i dunno why, but ive been having dreams that i could feel, smell, taste...please tell me what you think. im freaking out here.


First of all why freak out? Perhaps you conjured up these dreams after reading about people like me and other abductions

But if you were abducted-----so what? There are many people that envy those experiences-----equally there are those that have bad experiences----because they don’t know and are fearful of the unknown

ET can’t hurt you; they always return people physically and mentally intact----sometimes improved

They usually erase most if not all experiences good or bad and only let you remember a few things----to confirm that they exist

Since you are on this board and asking questions on this thread you obviously have some interest in ET----and they know that

If you wish no contact with ET they will leave you alone----or at the very least erase completely any contact they have with you

The bottom line---ET will not hurt you, can’t hurt you, and are not allowed to hurt you

One of my purposes is to tell people that we are not food for ET, nor does ET want to kill us so that they can take our resources

ET is more akin to angels----and even when they play devil’s advocate it’s only for our benefit



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by eyeballkid
I believe in E.T., but I do not believe for a second that great artists like Miles Davis, Picasso, Van Gohg, Jimi Hendrix, Lennon /Mccartney(Harrison) had an E.T. intervention. To think that these individuals did not have original and brilliant artistic responces to the time that was given to them is, for lack of a better term, stupid. I will not say that these people did noy believe in E.T., but for god's sake, please give credit to the 'HUMAN CONDITION'. That is what these great artists had to work with,NOT E.T.! Peace!

P.S. I know that you are rather...poetic...



Here I go with that poetry again----

Does a flower create its beauty and fragrance?

Does a cow create juicy steaks for humans to savor?----Salad for the vegetarians

Is the sunset created by those that experience it?

There is more to talent than talent----those people you speak of had a passion----a desire----a need to fulfill a deep void in their souls----all of them failed to fill that void but the gods gave them something for their efforts

Often a gift given to any individual ends up being a gift to the world rather than a reward to the originator



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 09:25 AM
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What's your take on the tsunami preview?

It might be fair to say my friend was sort of traumatized by the experience. The only reason I give him any credibility is he asked me, know-it-all that I am, what I thought it meant... several weeks before it happened.

His personal life seems like it is one of continuous turmoil, so I told him that it might represent a sweeping devastating event outside of his control, and it was a warning for him to steele himself... Because in the end he was really just going to be a spectator...

He went into great detail in which he described it mostly as looking like movie clips, opening up with closeup of a somewhat large wave reflecting the early morning light. The sequences stayed in that style of presentation... till later he was on the beach, until he suddenly realized... Hey! This could be bad... He said he somehow heard someone 'say' to go to higher ground, but showed the picture of a hotel lobby with the impression they would be safe there. It then got somewhat strange and switched to a more abstract view with him standing in the lobby looking straight up with a cartoon like 'force-field' arc keeping the water from crushing the hotel...

Anyhow you get the idea...



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by golemina
What's your take on the tsunami preview?

It might be fair to say my friend was sort of traumatized by the experience. The only reason I give him any credibility is he asked me, know-it-all that I am, what I thought it meant... several weeks before it happened.

His personal life seems like it is one of continuous turmoil, so I told him that it might represent a sweeping devastating event outside of his control, and it was a warning for him to steele himself... Because in the end he was really just going to be a spectator...


Your friend chose to talk about it most keep it to themselves; confused about the whole phenomenal that lacks earthly explanation

I was shown the tsunami as well as other major events but not enough information to do anything about them

Events as those are not changeable, they are not warnings to change our ways, they are not punishment from god, they are part of the life on this planet----unpredictable and for a purpose----after all, this is a planet where life and death are intertwined----all of us are born and all of us will die----and few know how or when they will move on to the next segment of existence----so enjoy the ride if you can



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 12:05 PM
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In reading Eyeball's question to Sleeper I remembered that Paul McCartney attributes many of his original songs to those he heard in the prior night's dream. John Lennon witnessed a UFO from his New York City apartment. Many artists received their creative inspiration from dreams. Who's to say ET doesn't communicate with humans via dreams thereby prompting great works of art. What better way to inspire generations than through music and other art forms?

I've had many dreams of fleets of UFO's showing up in the skies and all of us staring in wonder. Are these dreams premonitions? Who knows today.
If I understand Sleeper correctly, ET is heavily involved in our lives and uses many methods to tweak the numbers down here on the blue planet.



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 08:06 PM
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Sleeper,

Where do souls reside? If when a person a born, a soul is inserted into the body, where does that soul come from?

Do they have machines to retrieve/store them?

How might souls relate to physics as we understand them today? i.e. what do they encompass, where/how do they travel?

Thanks.



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by Kostya
Sleeper,

Where do souls reside? If when a person a born, a soul is inserted into the body, where does that soul come from?


They come from a place like heaven, where souls are in various stages of physical spiritual energy depending on their level of enlightenment


Do they have machines to retrieve/store them?


No machines, souls are on their own for the most part---every soul knows its limits----where they can go and what they can do

Undesirables and those in trouble are escorted by ETs and may have no freedom but to reenter earth or another planet

Most entering earth are designated where they will be born and under what conditions---there is no tossing of the dice



How might souls relate to physics as we understand them today? i.e. what do they encompass, where/how do they travel?


Physics do not apply to souls----those souls that are free to travel do so according to their level of privilege---some travel in ships others get around through will----they can travel light years at the speed of thought----they can materialize or remain invisible

Ever feel like someone is watching you when you are alone? -----No human is ever alone



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by highhorse313
In reading Eyeball's question to Sleeper I remembered that Paul McCartney attributes many of his original songs to those he heard in the prior night's dream. John Lennon witnessed a UFO from his New York City apartment. Many artists received their creative inspiration from dreams. Who's to say ET doesn't communicate with humans via dreams thereby prompting great works of art. What better way to inspire generations than through music and other art forms?

I've had many dreams of fleets of UFO's showing up in the skies and all of us staring in wonder. Are these dreams premonitions? Who knows today.
If I understand Sleeper correctly, ET is heavily involved in our lives and uses many methods to tweak the numbers down here on the blue planet.


Thats' B.S. Dreams are the direct result of the brain, which science barely has any understanding of. I have had experiences of other people direcly making me dream something I had not wished to dream. (another thread about a year ago). E.T. is not to blame



posted on Apr, 20 2006 @ 12:06 AM
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Sleeper, If you want to write a poetry book, do it. If not, please try to answer questions like a normal person. This isn't a portfolio for would be fairy tales. If you are saying that an artist can not come up with a unique idea of their own without E.T. intervention, (let alone the idea of Post-Modern art itself, which kind of states that everything has already been done...) why not kill my self right now? What the Hell is the point to being human anyway? Should I join the army and die for my country for some unseen demoratic change, or should I continue working my crappy drug store clerk job just because I have a mindset like Van Gohg had? He was not a happy guy, and he died in poverty. Clearly the E.T. didn't care about him, but the rich people that now own his art don't want anything to do with E.T.

Your "idea" is flawed.



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