What Did Adam Call His Wife Before the Fall?

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Where does it say there was no rain until the flood?

a reply to: rounda

It was a reply I got from a guy once who said there was no rain before the flood. Because many do not believe there was until the food because no mention of it. I on the other hand believe what scriptures says over mans opinions.

I am surprised you ever ran into this false doctrine before.

The most beautiful creature of all Creation, until God put on the ball an chain, and started calling her something else.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

The water cycle relies on the sun. The sun wasn't created until day 4.

It couldn't have rained without the sun to evaporate the water on the Earth.

Which is why God had to water the plants with the mist from the ground.

a reply to: rounda

Some make the claim because in Chapter 9 there was no RAINBOW before the Flood (Gen :12-17) this is another verse they use to prove no rain until after the flood. You see they claim you can't make a rainbow in the clouds without rain.

I doubt the cycle could evaporate enough water to rain in 2 days time. Remember it does not say "God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was no sun to evaporate water do distill rain". God had not caused it to rain so even if the cycle was in place on day 4 and 5, it wasn't going to rain until there was a man to till the earth. It didn't rain on day 6, nor day 7, pretty sure it rained after the 8th day (the day they fell) because that is when Adam became a tiller of the ground and Day 9 was his first day o the job.

The two oldest professions Farming and Sheep herding.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

1600 years between day 7 and the flood. And if you don't believe in a literal 6 day creation, who knows how many years between day 4 and 7.

a reply to: rounda

I am a Bible Literalist.

a reply to: UncleMikey

And there you have it. The First Adam was created on Day Three. That Adam died, along with the First Woman ever created named Ishshah.

God Reincarnated them on the Sixth Day, AT THE SAME TIME...

Genesis 1:27
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Now you know the 'rest of the story' as they say. You also know why Jesus rose on the Third Day. That is because Adam rose on the Third Day. Jesus is the 'Last Adam'.

The more you know.

There is no reincarnation, only resurrection.

Hebrew 9:27-28

27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Man dies one human death, and likewise, Christ died one human death.

The next verses explain resurrection AND why JESUS is called the "second Adam", not some reincarnated version of the original human Adam...

1 Corinthians 15:42-47

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Jesus is the ONLY Lord from heaven. Adam was created in a garden by Jesus before Jesus took on his own human form and came to earth.

Mikey, you need to do a better job of studying the Bible that you accuse EVERYONE else of lying about. You haven't thought this through very well.

a reply to: rounda

By the time of Noah's flood it is estimated that between 8 and 16 BILLION people were on the earth all coming from Adam.

a reply to: rounda

I know how many years between day 4 and 7.

NONE! Only 3 days

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Where does it say Adam became tiller of the Earth on day 8 or 9?

It says Adam was created on day 3 because there was no man to till the soil.

Genesis 2:15
The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.

There wasn't billions of people from Adam's line. His genealogy is basically laid out in the bible. Double that for Cain's genealogy which isn't laid out.

There could possibly have been billions of people on the Earth from the people God created on day 6.

a reply to: rounda

"By the sweat of your brow" is one indicator. And who do you think taught Cain to till?

Adam was no created on day three. That would be a private interpretation and wildly out of context.

Adams genealogy overlaps they are not end to end. And there was plenty of women around even today we have more women than men. Back then men could have as many as he liked.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Genesis 2:4
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.

5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[a] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

Says it right there, very clearly. Adam was created on the day God made the earth and the heavens, before the plants grew.

a reply to: rounda

TYPE OF SPEECH: Narrative. does not mean it was a chronological account in two, especially when compared to Chapter 1.

You are wrong in joining instead of rightly dividing.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Genesis 1:11

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 2:4

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

You claim to be a literalist, but ignore the actual words. It says, very clearly, that before the vegetation, God created Adam.

And every plant of the field BEFORE IT WAS IN THE EARTH.

The plant was in the Earth on day 3. Adam was created before the plant was in the Earth.

You're right, it's not chronological. Genesis 2 is going back to day 2 and 3 to tell the story of when God created Adam and Eve.

a reply to: rounda

chapter 2 has summary statments and additional info but no where does it indicate any DAY of creation changes. Chapter one says the 6th day and so the sixth day it is until it says clearly otherwise.

Sorry your opinions do not equal the facts.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: rounda

chapter 2 has summary statments and additional info but no where does it indicate any DAY of creation changes. Chapter one says the 6th day and so the sixth day it is until it says clearly otherwise.

Sorry your opinions do not equal the facts.

Oh so you're only a literalist when it's convenient for you. Got it.

The King James Version states, very specifically, "in the DAY the lord God made the Earth and the heavens, and every plant of the field BEFORE it was in the Earth."

You're so quick to judge people based on your "opinions" of an "interpretation" of the bible, which was probably given to you by your church. It probably isn't even from your own reading of the bible.

a reply to: rounda

You need to learn the figures of speech and how to study. the fact is in Chapter one, the summary in chapter two. And in the sentence is punctuation which is a means of division of the Old English Text.

You cannot follow MODERN or American English Grammatical rules when Studying the Old English.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

So it's safe to assume you read the Old Testament in Hebrew, then.

Otherwise, you're just reading an interpretation.

Cool fact, the biblical Hebrew also says in Genesis 2, the DAY the earth and the heavens were created, BEFORE plants were in the ground.

And further, in the Hebrew, "man, Adam" is used in the collective sense, "mankind" in Genesis 1.

Whereas in Genesis 2, "the man, ha-Adam" is used in the singular sense, referring to THE man he created in Eden.

Proving further that God created Adam on day 3, and mankind on day 6.

a reply to: rounda

"Biblical Hebrew" Does not exist it is made up. Event he Jews today are not sure what sounds and vowels were made in Ancient Hebrew. But it is not the same as a Hebrew COPY of any OT scriptures. the Jew's thank the AV Translators for their work in preserving the OT in English for from it is the Jerusalem Bible Translated from. Hebrew today is not the same as Hebrew in Ancient Israel.


COOL FACT CHAPTER TWO TYPE OF SPEECH IS SUMMARY NARRATIVE. That is supported by every Biblcial scholar since AD100