Originally posted by WestPoint23
Its just the attitudes our generals and politicians they don't want o give yup their most prized possession no mater ho close the ally.
- That's fine Westy, no-one is saying they can't hold those views.
.....let's just make sure that they make that crystal clear before inviting orders from us or invite our companies to become involved in cost/risk
sharing on new projects or seek our support in future.
Also, could you explain to me how Chinook's became "most prized possessions" and what possible rationale there might be for taking UK orders for
them and not delivering them with necessary codes thereby rendering the new aircraft only fit to be broken up for spares?
Yeah you fight with us there for we will have the really good tech and you got nothing to worry about.
- Have you lost your mind? Is that why you think the UK & Aus have worked together with the US since WW2?!
(Besides which the US 'lead' in high-tech is a very very recent thing
and one you'll find born out only in terms of production, remember when the visiting senior USAF people were shocked to encounter the 'MBB
A completely independant and unknown - outside of Europe's aero-industry - Euro supersonic
contemporary of your 'Have Blue' project, hmmm?
Wake up Westy; physics, metalurgy and chemistry belong to no-one country, Europe's R&D is as good as anyones.)
And well probably fight along side you so either way your still ok.
- Oh right, so, no consideration whatsoever that maybe the UK & the Aussies came along because they thought it was the right thing to do?
(even when it was at great political cost to their national govs?)
And some people don't consider the U.K and the Australians a coalition they still think the U.S. is fighting alone which is not
- American attitudes like yours Westy go a long way to losing support for the current involvement and making sure that next time you are utterly
alone and that you will suffer the incresed costs of finding yourselves always alone.
I wonder just how many in your 'defence' industry are really that thrilled at the full implications of all this.
Who in their right mind welcomes the prospect of the shorter production runs, the higher costs, the smaller orders this will necessitate from the US
tax-payer and the lower profits to 'feed' the R&D that got things to the current level of advancement, hmmmm?
All your gov's (along with some in the military and some blinkered idiots in the 'defence' industry) own paranoid work, enjoy.
And I’m saying if need be to go at it alone well be ready, it dangerous if the U.S. starts deepening on other counties to fight its
- It's also deeply dangerous when there is a mentality abroad in the US that sees threats at every turn.
The cold war is over, there is no 'national threat' and there is no serious credible replacement for the old USSR.
Get over it.
And its not stabbing in the back its simply looking out for Number 1.
- Except for the part where you do actaully stab your supposed allies in the back, you do actually rip them off, you do actually trash their
voluntary involvement and freely given support and you really just couldn't care less about any of that, right?
[edit on 1-4-2005 by sminkeypinkey]