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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Its not our prized jewel its not our most advanced tech,
and since I don't foresee us fighting our allies in the near future whets the harm with giving you the JSF, if any it helps us out, not to mention you guys are actually paying for the F-35's development. Giving you the F-35 does not pose a military problem nor a problem of pride or status.
Enjoy your F-35's.
West Point, Out
Originally posted by Murcielago
The F-35's weight issue, well...isn't an issue, it was fixed months ago.
and I dont think the F-35 can supercruise, being that it has one engine.
Since when is STOVL tech not advanced?
Since when is stealth tech not advanced?
Since when is super cruise not advanced?
and since I don't foresee us fighting our allies in the near future whets the harm with giving you the JSF, if any it helps us out, not to mention you guys are actually paying for the F-35's development. Giving you the F-35 does not pose a military problem nor a problem of pride or status.
Yeah so why arent you even offering us the F-22 if we wont be fighting you and could help the production costs and help with the development of the F-22?
Originally posted by WestPoint23
The Harrier has it and you guys already have the Harrier so its not a major issue.
Stealth is advanced but the stealth of the F-35 is not our most advanced stealth tech so we have no problem giving it to our allies. But if you were to as about the stealth of the B-2 or Raptor then we would have a problem.
Not a feature of the F-35.
Devil please read my posts more carefully, for the F-35 I said it does not pose a problem of Pride or Status. Giving you the F/A-22 means that we no longer have the worlds best fighter to ourselves, and that is not acceptable.
Can the harrier hold the same ammount of armorments as the F-35?
No, the F-35 is much more advanced than the harrier...
Why though?
Why though?
Because you feel you need to "lead" us?
When no practically NO countries follow?
Originally posted by WestPoint23
It doesn't matter its not our most advanced jet, the F-35 could be better than all the other jets in the world but if its not our most advanced one then you can have it.
Because Generals don't like giving away their very best systems, even if it is to allies.
Nope because we want to keep our military supremacy and because it looks good having the best fighter in the world. Its the mentality of the Pentagon I cant do anything about it nether can you . Its just the way it is.
Why so?
So wait , you dont even trust the people that die with you?
Isnt that breaking a service value, "treat others with dignity and respect while expecting others to do the same."
"A loyal Soldier is one who supports the leadership and stands up for fellow Soldiers"
Supremacy over who, the UK?
WTF???
It also looks better if your willing to share and work with others...
Originally posted by WestPoint23
I don't know I cant read the mind of the people that make that decision.
Oh come-on I already told you its not about trust or respect. Its not that we don't respect you its just that we are not comfortable with giving other countries as close as they may be to us our best systems. And what does the solder quote have to do with export restriction?
The Pentagon just wants to be on top even on top of our allies when it come to military strength. We share and work with you we just don't share the very best stuff but you'll get the rest.
Be loyal to your fellow solider, not putting him at a disadvantage.
Why though?
Its only servres to help you if your ally can take a more dominent role during conflicts.
So the american military would intentionally leave an ally at a disadvantage and leave them open to attack?
Originally posted by WestPoint23
I already told you their logic behind it. You keep asking “why” there is only so many why’s I can explain.
Buddy I am loyal I have nothing to do with the export restrictions. Ahhhhh... again with the why! And its ok we will spare Britain the burden of fighting high tech A2A fighters from our enemies.
How is not getting the Raptor or other really high tech systems leaving you open to an attack?, come-one I don't think anyone is going to attack Britain anytime soon.
Originally posted by BillHicksRules
Devil,
At what point are you going to realise that WP is a moron?
He is steadfastly unable to grasp the simplest of concepts such as contract law, never mind more advanced skills, such as the use of a spellchecker.
He rambles on about the US not "sharing" technology. What he fails to realise is that the US is not being told it must share its toys with the other kids. What is being demanded is that US businesses honour the contracts they signed AND were paid for.
Originally posted by BillHicksRules
I think you will find he is not talking from a knowledge standpoint as much as his own point of view. If you take the time to visit the MOD and DOD websites about this subject you will find that they do not support any of his contentions.
In fact they dispute them quite strongly. As do the sites dealing with the individual projects mentioned.
I am happy to debate a topic with someone who although having a differing viewpoint, actually has information to back them up. WP on the other hand is simply a mis-informed troller trying to get a rise out of you.
If you want to play his game, then far be it from me to stop you. It is only your time you are wasting.
Originally posted by BillHicksRules
“He is an ambassador for his country”
Two things on this, firstly, how right you are. Secondly, just because someone comes from the US does not make them knowledgeable about it, as WP has so perfectly proved.
I am one of those people who, rightly or wrongly, judge those I meet online by what they say.
Originally posted by BillHicksRules
I am from Scotland too but would never think of referring to myself as an ambassador for it.
As to my garnering opinions on people based on what they post, I would say that if one does not want to be thought of as stupid and intolerant then one should not post stupid and intolerant posts.
As to what I think of you, do you actually care? Do you post so people will like you?