I think that same sex unions (politically correct speech) are the most hideously sick thing that is coming out of this new age. (and its not love another L lust) But since i cannot stop them from happening i will tolerate it so long as they dont try to come on to me, and if they do they will be missing a personal part and be walking on crutches for life.

Yes, but do you think it's right to redefine words in the langauge...after all language effects culture and society, just look at how well Ebonics has screwed up the people who speaks that!

It could be argued that Ebonics developed as an effect of culture and society's continued oppression & denial of care issues with the "people who speaks that".

The issue of redefining words in the language (RE: marriage) is complex. On one hand, it could be argued that the dictionary definition is representative of the historical antecedants to the word itself- thus, not reflecting current societal trends. However, it could also be argued that a common, unitary language must follow proper rules of grammar.

But then again, look at our culture's posting & writing styles. We don't follow exact rules of grammar either. We have naturally mutated our utilization of language away from the original rule set. Even in spoken English, we have butchered things up fairly well. It is a natural part of our cultural evolution just as are revolutions for the implementation of further rule sets. My personal view is that Ebonics is the direct result of shoddy education (or no education at all, considering that some folks never go to school & are illiterate).

Although you may vehemently oppose the alteration of language, language is also tied to the community as a whole. This then opens into the whole issue of requiring people to conform their behavior to a component of verbal language. If you do not fit the definition in the dictionary, you can not receive the rewards that society has constructed upon that word. If the society consists of people of varying intelligence levels, they will obviously adhere less to "accepted" definitions. What are we going to do with those folks?

This issue of "right" or "wrong" was a nice way to inspire an ethical debate.



[Edited on 17-7-2003 by MKULTRA]

Originally posted by NinjaoftheNight
I think that same sex unions (politically correct speech) are the most hideously sick thing that is coming out of this new age. (and its not love another L lust) But since i cannot stop them from happening i will tolerate it so long as they dont try to come on to me, and if they do they will be missing a personal part and be walking on crutches for life.

What!!? Gays don't love each other, its just lust! Where did you get that info?

Well I'm not waiting for you to reply. I want to know why people say they "tolerate it" if they aren't hurting you. I have seen that quite a few times. Why do you care if it isn't hurting you?

Gay marriages is hurting all of us...what kind of family can you raise if you have to point out to them that "Gays being married is not the same as a normal marriage".

Heterosexual kids will now have to adapt to accept something not NATURAL to them.

This is confusing and will lead to worse hate crimes if the gays would just not ask for legal marriage.

Furthermore their being married only serves to destroy any form of social upbringing that a child that is adopted by gays will have...

Originally posted by FreeMason
Gay marriages is hurting all of us...what kind of family can you raise if you have to point out to them that "Gays being married is not the same as a normal marriage".

Heterosexual kids will now have to adapt to accept something not NATURAL to them.

This is confusing and will lead to worse hate crimes if the gays would just not ask for legal marriage.

Furthermore their being married only serves to destroy any form of social upbringing that a child that is adopted by gays will have...

why kids will grow up to be more tolerant of other people, that just because their family does something one way that doesn't necessarily make it the ONLY way.

Just like they have to accept affairs, divorce, child abuse and all the other things that go on on nice 'normal' marriages.

remember kids - adaption and acceptance is gooooood for the soul

Originally posted by FreeMason
Gay marriages is hurting all of us...what kind of family can you raise if you have to point out to them that "Gays being married is not the same as a normal marriage".

Heterosexual kids will now have to adapt to accept something not NATURAL to them.

This is confusing and will lead to worse hate crimes if the gays would just not ask for legal marriage.

Furthermore their being married only serves to destroy any form of social upbringing that a child that is adopted by gays will have...

Social upbringing? Why would it destroy a social upbringing?

Decadence,decadent,decline,declining.

Rome has fallen, due to her decadence and her decadent people. Don't forget it.

If our civilisation want to follow the Rome path, she'll fall too.

A) ITS no one's business.

B) WHo are YOU to judge them & say they can't be good parents?

C) everyone has the right to be happy. Period. SO many hetero marriages fail & often the child is raised by a single parent. I think people feel its wrong for a child to have 2 daddy's or 2 mommy's. I know 2 gays who have adopted children & they are the BEST parents for them

Children aren't as judgemental as adults are.I've known a gay couple who have been together for 29 years now(thats longer than some marriages) How can anyone deny them the same rights as marriage? Its not right & GAY MARRIAGES WILL SOON PASS HERE! Its a given.Some even say as soon as 5 years or less.Gays & their lifestyle are being exposed to people to show they are just like any one else.( Will & Grace & many other tv shows are showing gay lifestyles, movies,magazines,politcs,etc.) There are so many other more important issues going on in the world today, why some seem to obsess with gays makes me wonder.Rev.Phelphs of godhatesfags.com MUST be gay! This man travels across the country to gay pride parades,funerals,etc.to protest gays.The man is a major closet case!Like many who are afraid of gays.

Originally posted by romantico
A) ITS no one's business.

B) WHo are YOU to judge them & say they can't be good parents?

C) I know 2 gays who have adopted children & they are the BEST parents for them.

A) When it comes to kids, we are ALL responsible !

B) Well, I do not judge them. I just think kids need a father AND a mother.Not 2 father or 2 mother.

C) In France, in 2003, 2 gay parents ( male ) have raped their adopted child with the help of their gay friends

Hey, Romantico,

If you, me, and everyone else in the world was gay the human race woud cease to exist in less than a hundred years..

That's one reason why I consider homosexuals sick creations of this age.

Disgusted,
Tassadar

Your third one is no reason. You point out one incident and that is supposed to justify that gays can't adopt.
What about organizations like NAMBLA? Don't they want to do the same thing?

Originally posted by maynardsthirdeye

Originally posted by NinjaoftheNight
I think that same sex unions (politically correct speech) are the most hideously sick thing that is coming out of this new age. (and its not love another L lust) But since i cannot stop them from happening i will tolerate it so long as they dont try to come on to me, and if they do they will be missing a personal part and be walking on crutches for life.

What!!? Gays don't love each other, its just lust! Where did you get that info?

Homosexuality is not normal its caused my lust,and perverts. Thats were he gets it. It says so in the Bible, homosexuality is lusting for the same sex. I may be wrong on the Bible part,but thats what it is. People are born straight,but lust and perverts and a bad upbrining makes them gay.Marriage is a holy sacrement which is not ment for something immoral.

Originally posted by maynardsthirdeye
Your third one is no reason. You point out one incident and that is supposed to justify that gays can't adopt.
What about organizations like NAMBLA? Don't they want to do the same thing?

If you are justifying NAMBLA then you are very mistaken about that sick orginazation.

Originally posted by Tassadar
Hey, Romantico,

If you, me, and everyone else in the world was gay the human race woud cease to exist in less than a hundred years..

That's one reason why I consider homosexuals sick creations of this age.

Disgusted,
Tassadar

I find that offensive Tassadar. You think that gays are out to turn everyone. You can't be "turned" no matter what anyone tells you.

AMEN!!!

Thank you JediMaster
I hope the whole board is enlightened now.

Tassadar

interesting aside

those men who seem to be most vocally homophobic are often those who enjoy watching girl on girl action pornography.

So is being gay ok so long as its only women who do it? And you get to watch?

OK then maynard,

tell me, how does homosexuality benefit anyone else besides the two perverts making out?

Wait, I'll answer those questions for you...

Does it help Society?
no

Do they create children to protect our world in the future?b]
no

Are they allowed by any major religion?
no

If you have anything else, please feel free to post. You won't be discrimnated for being different.

Tassadar

Originally posted by JediMaster

Originally posted by maynardsthirdeye
Your third one is no reason. You point out one incident and that is supposed to justify that gays can't adopt.
What about organizations like NAMBLA? Don't they want to do the same thing?

If you are justifying NAMBLA then you are very mistaken about that sick orginazation.

What!!? I am doing nothing of the sort! I'm saying that it is wrong to take one incident and justify that gay marriage is wrong. I'm think NAMBLA is just a disgusting as you think it is.

also, know i despise lesbians too dude, so back off

*anger*
Tassadar