Wal-Mart will require shoppers wear mask July 20th

The Justice Department doesn't have a problem with this:

The ADA does not provide a blanket exemption to people with disabilities from complying with legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operations. I'm Donald J. Trump and I approve this message.

originally posted by: 5ofineed5aladder
It's just a mask i don't see the big deal. It makes everyone more comfortable. I feel soooo oppressed urma gaaahd

You know the "sheeple" people are always talking about? Congrats, you are one of them.

It has nothing to do with being "comfortable", it has everything to do with fear-mongering, beating people down with doom porn and constant attacks on common sense until they give up and let the insane run the asylum.

"Just a mask"... "just a number"... "just a vaccine"...

I agree with those that said the majority of the world handled this completely wrong. The infected should have been quarantined and the rest of us should have been able to continue our lives as normal. These masks aren't preventing anything, they're slowing it down. That's it.

I don't want it, I don't like being sick from anything, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let fear-mongering ruin my day. I'm sick of this. All of this.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: carewemust
Four Walmarts within 5 miles radius of my place. All have required masks since late March.
Masks should be required 365 days a year in one of them, if you get my drift.

No, I don't. Could you be more specific?

Don't be an ass. You know he's talking about WalMart being a filthy store in general because people that go there are the great unwashed - literally.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Not a single state in this country would have had to go into lockdown if Walmart would have opened every register.

I know that sounds out there, but I bet the math would prove it true so long as they use the same shaky mathematicians that calculated Covid rates...

originally posted by: Charliebrowndog
For all the nonsense about making people wear masks or voluntarily wearing masks why are these businesses not setting up hand washing stations that are mandatory or making people wear gloves? Where is the national push to wear gloves in public? When was the last time you went into Walmart or any store for that matter and not touched anything? How many people do you see in a public restroom not wash their hands or cover their cough, pick their nose or butt, and then not sanitize their hands after?

You would think that a retailer that sells groceries and everything else under the sun that involves people touching the products would not overlook that aspect of hygiene. This is a big factor why I just laugh at the masks because there are so many other ways that the virus can be spread that have not been addressed at businesses like this.

I wear masks basically just so I don't have to worry about being hassled but I have little confidence that they are doing anything except annoying the person wearing them.

Wearing gloves is useless when ordinary soap kills the virus. If you touch something infected with gloves and pick up something else, guess what? You have just spread it with your gloves. Think for a second, how many things do you touch in a five minute period in a store? The cart, of course, fruit, vegetables, boxes of pasta, cans of soup, meat packages, egg cartons, too many things to worry about because it's impossible to stop.

originally posted by: mikell
a reply to: tanstaafl
HIPAA

Correction noted, thanks...

originally posted by: tanstaafl
You do realize that it is a violation of HIPPA rules to even ask me that, no?

How is a retailer violating HIPAA by asking you that question? Cite the specific violation. HIPAA applies to your doctor (or related profession), healthcare provider or insurance company communicating your personal information.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
You do realize that it is a violation of HIPPA rules to even ask me that, no?

How is a retailer violating HIPAA by asking you that question? Cite the specific violation. HIPAA applies to your doctor (or related profession), healthcare provider or insurance company communicating your personal information.

Ask the HHS...

"Who Can Look at and Receive Your Health Information

The Privacy Rule sets rules and limits on who can look at and receive your health information

To make sure that your health information is protected in a way that does not interfere with your health care, your information can be used and shared:

For your treatment and care coordination
To pay doctors and hospitals for your health care and to help run their businesses
With your family, relatives, friends, or others you identify who are involved with your health care or your health care bills, unless you object
To make sure doctors give good care and nursing homes are clean and safe
To protect the public's health, such as by reporting when the flu is in your area
To make required reports to the police, such as reporting gunshot wounds

Your health information cannot be used or shared without your written permission unless this law allows it. For example, without your authorization, your provider generally cannot:

Give your information to your employer
Use or share your information for marketing or advertising purposes or sell your information"

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Wal-Mart took a knee and will now require masks.

www.cnn.com...

"About 65% of Walmart's more than 5,000 stores, including its Sam's Club locations, are located in areas where there is a government mandate on face coverings."

"To help bring consistency across stores and clubs, we will require all shoppers to wear a face covering starting Monday, July 20," Walmart US chief operating officer Dacona Smith and Sam's Club chief operating officer Lance De La Rosa said in a blog post Wednesday. "

I didnt see that one coming or at least not yet.

Thoughts?

I'm just going to refuse and inform anyone who tries to stop me of two things...

1. I have a medical condition that precludes me from wearing anything that restricts my breathing.

They cannot question this, as it would be a violation of HIPPA...

2. Georgia State Law makes it a misdemeanor to wear a face mask.

Most States have similar laws... check yours...

Next?

You are an individual and have the right to make that choice. Walmart is a private entity and has the right to also make a choice. What gives you the right to deny the choices you are demanding?

originally posted by: F4guy
You are an individual and have the right to make that choice. Walmart is a private entity and has the right to also make a choice. What gives you the right to deny the choices you are demanding?

If you flash the medical exemption card in my area, they will tell you to leave, place your order online or via phone (they give you a number), and they will curb side deliver, no charge.

Might take an hour or two, but it negates the issue in it's entirety.

So far, this is the posted signs at every grocer and major box store I have seen. Not sure how that plays out in a large item box store (like furniture or big screens - I haven't dealt with this for the pandemic), but I imagine it is similar to what they do at the building centres. Load you up, wait in the booth, you inspect and sign off, away you go!

a reply to: tanstaafl

Uh, that says nothing about someone asking you. Try again.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
So, do you actually have a medical condition that precludes you from wearing a mask, or is this just a matter of assuming a fake ailment in order to weenie-out on the rules?

You do realize that it is a violation of HIPPA rules to even ask me that, no?

Just as a matter of interest. I gather that some people are prepared to assume fake medical conditions so that they don't have to wear a mask and be sad. You made the announcement, I didn't expect that you were going to be all coy when asked why.
Shall I expect an Interpol Red Notice to be issued any time soon?

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: carewemust
Four Walmarts within 5 miles radius of my place. All have required masks since late March.
Masks should be required 365 days a year in one of them, if you get my drift.

No, I don't. Could you be more specific?

Don't be an ass. You know he's talking about WalMart being a filthy store in general because people that go there are the great unwashed - literally.

A) You are asserting that just because one has to be circumspect about their spending, they are 'filthy'.
B) Buddy singled out one store in particular as necessitating the wearing of a mask, due to it's clientele. If he is going to make such a statement (with a wink, no less), he should back it up. Otherwise, just keep one's creepy opinions between like-minded peers.

originally posted by: F4guy
You are an individual and have the right to make that choice. Walmart is a private entity and has the right to also make a choice. What gives you the right to deny the choices you are demanding?

Walmart does not have the 'choice' to violate State law, that forbids the wearing of masks in public except for certain, specific things - and this plandemic is not one of them.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: tanstaafl

Uh, that says nothing about someone asking you. Try again.

Ok, so they can ask, but I do not have to respond, and they cannot require a response that divulges any medical details that are protected by HIPAA.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
I'm just going to refuse and inform anyone who tries to stop me of two things...

1. I have a medical condition that precludes me from wearing anything that restricts my breathing.

They cannot question this, as it would be a violation of HIPPA...

2. Georgia State Law makes it a misdemeanor to wear a face mask.

Most States have similar laws... check yours...

Next?

A) If you lie about having a disability, for any reason, you are a garbage person.

B) Walmart can still refuse to let you enter because they offer online grocery pickup, a reasonable accommodation.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Hey, I was just trying to clarify your statement about Georgia law concerning facemasks. You said it was against the law and I offered an offical notification I found from the State of Georgia claiming it advised people to wear them. To me, this indicated that the information you had conflicted with the information I found.

I then asked if you could find reference from the State of Georgia saying that it was against the law to wear masks in public but you did not. All you did was deny the communique from the State of Georgia asking people to wear masks as valid.

I also offered a link to the State of Florida as an example of how laws about wearing masks in public often have an,''intent'' clause, thinking that maybe Georgia might have something similar in their law. I don't know. I do not purport to be an expert on Georgia law. Are you? An expert? If so, once again will you back your comment with citation to back it up?

A) You are asserting that just because one has to be circumspect about their spending, they are 'filthy'.

Wrong. That is a very common statement by a lot of people, mostly idiots taking pictures and complaining about WalMart customers. Locations are not specific.

B) Buddy singled out one store in particular as necessitating the wearing of a mask, due to it's clientele. If he is going to make such a statement (with a wink, no less), he should back it up. Otherwise, just keep one's creepy opinions between like-minded peers.

It flew right over your head.

I’ve been wearing a mask in any store I go to where there are people. Wisconsin doesn’t mandate masks, so it’s up to the individual businesses. I always wear a mask the few times I go to WalMart. There are always people there, and a lot of them ( customers, not employees) are stupid. Most do not wear masks. I just try to stay the hell away from people in general, so this isn’t rocket science. It’s not hard to wear a mask. I take it off as soon as I get to my car. I don’t understand for the life of me why people are politicizing mask wearing. It’s ridiculous. It seems most of the people whining about having to wear a mask are on of a certain political party.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: tanstaafl

Uh, that says nothing about someone asking you. Try again.

Ok, so they can ask, but I do not have to respond, and they cannot require a response that divulges any medical details that are protected by HIPAA.

You're right, you don't have to answer. They don't have to let you in either. That information is not protected by HIPAA when it comes to retailers. There is a comprehensive site full of information here.

Auggie could have been a nice guy and offered that link to you to educate you instead of being a jerk, but that's not his style. And you could have gone there to clarify the information after the first time you were called out on it, but you chose not to. So take the opportunity to educate yourself.

a reply to: 5ofineed5aladder

Tell that to my pulmonologist, who has told me that wearing a mask will induce an asthma attack. Never had asthma until 5 trips to the middle east while in the Marine Corps. But, if it makes you feel better, why should I care about my own health, right? Because the mask is supposedly to protect other people from what I may or may not have, or so you gullible sheep tend to say. Personally, I prefer my ability to continue breathing over whether or not you feel all warm and fuzzy inside because of a mask that has been proven in multiple studies to be ineffective anyway because nobody can figure out how to correctly use them.

Pro-tip: put the mask on, don't touch it at all until it's time to take it off. When it's time to take it off, don't put it back on. Use a clean one. You won't see a surgeon going from one OR to another wearing the same PPE.