Facts About This Virus too many ATS Members Simply Want to Ignore.

Don't forget the regular flu is killing people off at the same time but where's the count?

originally posted by: Gothmog
YouTube videos ?
Sorry , I DO NOT get my information from YouTube videos.
Anyone can upload most anything.

He actually proves he is an MD at the start of the video, and gives his credentials, which tells me you didn't even watch 1 minute of that video. He is actually a general surgery specialist in Albuquerque, NM. It's really easy to prove he is whom he says to be.

Dr. Duc Vuong, MD

In the above link there is even a photo of him.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I gotta say man, I no longer care. If our rights and our economy are this worthless to the citizens of America, let 'em all die. Maybe that would be for the best. The fact is, whether fortunately or unfortunately, this was never going to kill millions of Americans regardless the response. That was fear mongering, pure and simple. America allowed the whole country to be raped for nothing. Well, nothing except another day of beatings guaranteed every day we continue this farce.

You could show me 100 million dead right now and I'd say the same, the price paid in the name of fighting Coronavirus was far too high.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Gothmog
YouTube videos ?
Sorry , I DO NOT get my information from YouTube videos.
Anyone can upload most anything.

He actually proves he is an MD at the start of the video, and gives his credentials, which tells me you didn't even watch 1 minute of that video. He is actually a general surgery specialist in Albuquerque, NM. It's really easy to prove he is whom he says to be.

Dr. Duc Vuong, MD

In the above link there is even a photo of him.

So this Youtuibe doc's credentials matter to you and you're defending him, but the doctor on Fox News you reject because his narrative doesn't fill your inner fear hole?

Gotcha.

Thanks for being one of the ones who has supported this farce, your check is apparently literally in the mail from the IRS "stimulus" which the government sent out after creating the situation making them needed.

FYI, the doctor you blasted is a licensed family physician from Minnesota and a Minnesota state Senator. www.foxnews.com...
I'm gonna go ahead and say he's holding a better hand than your New Mexican surgeon largely because, in addition to the strong medical credentials, he's also inside the politics involved, which your doc isn't.

Fact is the catalyst behind transmission and terminal auto-immume System/Blood viability OVERLOAD is a Pleomorphic Bacteria...that can morph into the size of the dead materials we find at the sites of auto-immune System reactions and call "viruses"......the ONLY LIVING VIRUS IS A PLEOMORPHIC BACTERIA IN DISGUISE.

The "Virus Lie" is one of the biggest most evil lies ever told.

No one can "catch a virus"...this is a fact.

Everyone can catch a living bacteria that is disguised in the size and mass of dead viral contaminants....and that is transmitted both in "viral" manners via fluidic conduits and also in bacterial manners.

ALL DYNAMIC ACTIONS described in Research and Medical findings related to the "Virus Lie" must immediately be attributed in WHOLE to this Pleomorphic Bacteria.....the fit is perfect.

The findings are accurate but the catalyst is incorrect.....literally everything ever attributed to anything VIRAL to be found within the scientific and Medical worlds must be immediately attributed to this LIVING PLEOMORPHIC BACTERIA...then what we mistakenly call cancers(they used the exact same lie template as the did with the Virus Lie] and all diseased are remediated at once.....everything attributed to "cancers" must immediately be attributed to the Pleomorphic Bacteria because a TUMOR is simply an inner scab a bodily defense and what we discover at these sites we call CANCER TUMORS are noting more than the bodies normal reactions to an alien contaminant….this contaminant comes from this Pleomorphic Bacterial catalyst.

originally posted by: mikell
Don't forget the regular flu is killing people off at the same time but where's the count?

The death rate from the regular flu in the U.S. is 0.1%

The death rate from COVID-19 in the U.S. as of April 11th was at 3.88%, and it may continue to increase.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: mikell
Don't forget the regular flu is killing people off at the same time but where's the count?

The death rate from the regular flu in the U.S. is 0.1%

The death rate from COVID-19 in the U.S. as of April 11th was at 3.88%, and it may continue to increase.

The experts are presently claiming we've likely only positively identified 6% of the infected, which means that death rate is actually 0.38%, compared to a serious flu year like 2009 Swine flu which say a 0.45% CFR, so wrong again.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

So this Youtuibe doc's credentials matter to you and you're defending him, but the doctor on Fox News you reject because his narrative doesn't fill your inner fear hole?

Gotcha.

Thanks for being one of the ones who has supported this farce, your check is apparently literally in the mail from the IRS "stimulus" which the government sent out after creating the situation making them needed.

Obviously you didn't read even my statement on the first page... The doctor on Fox News was making a false argument. If this doctor is wrong, then prove it by showing what he says is wrong.

BTW, I am still not talking about getting rid of our rights. But you are forgetting about the responsibilities that come with freedom. You also want to just "let the virus run through" and you don't care how many people in the U.S. die. That's not what freedom loving Americans in the past did when they were asked to put their lives on the line to defend even people in Europe during WWI, WWII and other wars, and you are forgetting that as well.

I keep hearing millions may have already had CoV19 , and that the death numbers would be much lower if they were included.

I don't know about other states, But in Idaho and Washington they don't test people who happen to pass away at home if they're elderly or have preexisting conditions. Those numbers have skyrocketed in the past month or so.

The nursing homes have seen a drastic increase in deaths, but no posthumous tests are being done. There just aren't enough tests.

I really wonder exactly how high the death toll is.; I think it's possible that it may be a lot higher than we know.

With nearly half the US population having some sort of preexisting condition and nearly 50 million senior citizens I can see where it had the potential to rival the Spanish Flu.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

The experts are presently claiming we've likely only positively identified 6% of the infected, which means that death rate is actually 0.38%, compared to a serious flu year like 2009 Swine flu which say a 0.45% CFR, so wrong again.

Those experts are CLAIMING... It hasn't been positively proven. There is a big difference between "claiming" and "proving."

Yeah, like I'm gonna' listen to 'Glen' from the Walking Dead!

Didn't Negan already use Lucille to cave his skull in already???

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

We should have been so lucky...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It is irresponsible to claim a "death rate" if all the data isn't in.

It's dishonest.

It's manipulative.

It's scare tactics.

It's social engineering.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: putnam6

An airborne respiratory virus would mean it doesn't need liquid to be transmitted. So far it is still thought to be a droplet born virus. If it was an airborne virus all medical staff, all nurses, doctors, and other medical staff, would all be infected. While not everyone is being tested there are many people whom thought they had the virus, including doctors and other medical staff, because they were really close to infected people, and didn't get it.

President Trump himself would have tested positive as he NEVER used a mask, and has not only been close to infected people, but he has been a lot closer than 6 feet to infected people such as dignitaries whom have tested positive on having COVID-19.

All evidence still says it is a droplet borne virus.

Now you are arguing semantics besides it seems WHO thinks otherwise on its airborne survivability and it certainly targets your respiratory systems



https: //www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/who-considers-airborne-precautions-for-medical-staff-after-study-shows-coronavirus-can-survive-in-air.html

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

The experts are presently claiming we've likely only positively identified 6% of the infected, which means that death rate is actually 0.38%, compared to a serious flu year like 2009 Swine flu which say a 0.45% CFR, so wrong again.

Those experts are CLAIMING... It hasn't been positively proven. There is a big difference between "claiming" and "proving."

Yet you base your arguments on CLAIMS that Coronavirus would have killed hundreds of thousands or even millions... that's a huge difference between unproven claims and actual defensible reasons to shutdown the country (of which there are none, but I digress).

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It is irresponsible to claim a "death rate" if all the data isn't in.

It's dishonest.

It's manipulative.

It's scare tactics.

It's social engineering.

What is being dishonest, and manipulative is to use numbers which haven't been proven as being real...

How about instead of trying to insult me, you just discuss the topic itself? Or are you not smart enough to do that hence you need to attack the messenger?...

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It is irresponsible to claim a "death rate" if all the data isn't in.

It's dishonest.

It's manipulative.

It's scare tactics.

It's social engineering.

It's the Narrative™

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The topic itself is insulting...

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Hey, man, CORONA with lime, right???

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You can't claim a death rate with incomplete data.

You can't.

You just can't.

Unless you are deliberately being dishonest.