With 99% Percent of U.S. Covid-19 Victims Classified as Mild - What Entities Benefit From Hysteria?.

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Mach2
The 3% is world wide, including many countries with poor overall health to begin with. The 1% is a US only number.

US is at 3.4% so far.

Not true, and even if it is being reported that way, there is no possible way to tell how many ppl are actually infected, due to the shortage of test kits.

Can people have the FLU and not show any symptoms?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Mach2

Its more deadly proportionally.
Flu fatality rate is less than 1 % and the fatality rate for Covid is over 3%.

The fatality rate for the common flu is .01 in fact..

originally posted by: JHumm
a reply to: KKLOCO

Or lazy people, my wife works in health care and the doctor is a specialist, so not just a regular care doctor who would write a note for you to stay home but there are a few patients who are asking for a note from the doctor to get out of going to work.

Well, 85% of employees don't like their jobs, so expect to see doctors begin issuing "CoronaVirus passes" online pretty soon @ $20 a pop.

85% Don't Like Their Job: www.staffsquared.com...

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: carewemust
Thursday, March 12, 2020

Statistics clearly show that 99% of those in the United States who have CoronaVirus-19, are not sick enough to warrant hospitalization.

So?

Indeed there may be some who show no symptoms at all, they are still infected/infectious.

And this is different than influenza how???

Hotdogs are different to hamburgers how ?

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: carewemust

If your so convinced its all overblown hysteria, then why don't you just go book a cruise ship tour?

Go see the world dude... there's never been a better time if you were looking for a ridiculously cheap deal.

too late for that.

PRINCESS CRUISES VOLUNTARILY SUSPENDS ALL OPERATIONS OF ITS FLEET UNTIL MAY 10

originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: vonclod

You're correct! 50% is too high. I was just pointing out how statistics were being manipulated. Yeah, we don't know the death rate, but it is way more than 1% and the flu is only .1%

The Covid-19 "death rate" (mortality) in the USA is 2.3% and dropping, as continued testing reveals more people with the virus.

1,762 cases from Jan 21st to today. 41 of them have died. (17 were elderly at one nursing home in Wash state.) = 2.3% "death rate"

Source: www.worldometers.info...

a reply to: carewemust

Where did you get your 99% mild cases number? I didnt see that in your source.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: vonclod

You're correct! 50% is too high. I was just pointing out how statistics were being manipulated. Yeah, we don't know the death rate, but it is way more than 1% and the flu is only .1%

The Covid-19 "death rate" (mortality) in the USA is 2.3% and dropping, as continued testing reveals more people with the virus.

1,762 cases from Jan 21st to today. 41 of them have died. (17 were elderly at one nursing home in Wash state.) = 2.3% "death rate"

Source: www.worldometers.info...

The world average mortality rate is currently at 3.7%. This number is high because many people who get the disease never report it because of mild to no symptoms. We just dont know the actual mortality rate. Best guess is probably between 1.5 and 2.5 percent. Now this is only of our medical system does not get overwhelmed. If our medical system gets overwhelmed then that would be very bad. It would most definitely raise the mortality rate much higher. Maybe even higher than China's 3.9%.

In fact with our lack of quarantine measures it is likely that we will see between 60% and 80% infection rates in the U.S. and if that happens our medical system will be overwhelmed and we will see a much higher mortality rate than China. Fingers crossed.

originally posted by: nugget1
To think they are all collapsing their economies and health care systems to advance a political agenda for US Democrats is completely batt s#$@ crazya reply to: Beltalowda

I would think the highest concentration of efforts would be on protection the elderly- not wait until an entire nursing home is in jeopardy before implementing safety protocols.

It makes no sense, no matter how you look at it. When things just don't add up there's usually some not-so-benevolent motive.

I don't know how long it takes to get Covid-19 test results back, but it would be a good idea to only let visitors who have been "certified as Covid19-free", to enter Nursing Homes, and other Senior Living facilities.

You're 100% correct when stating how irrationally illogical it is to close colleges and K-12 schools over a virus that doesn't hurt people in those age ranges any more than the flu does.

But one thing is obvious when it comes to colleges. They save $$$ when students stay at home and take their courses there.

My son's college told him today that when Spring Break starts next week, he is to clean out his dorm room, because none of the students will be coming back to finish the school year on campus. All learning will be online for April/May/June. (I'll have to ask if we get a prorated refund of his Dorm room fee. Probably not. Colleges are greeeeedy.)

originally posted by: carewemust
Thursday, March 12, 2020

Statistics clearly show that 99% of those in the United States who have CoronaVirus-19, are not sick enough to warrant hospitalization.

Frequently Updated CV-19 USA Statistics: www.worldometers.info...

Naturally, the number of U.S. deaths from CoronaVirus-19 are therefore, minimal.

Since the cancellations, panic, and hysteria in the U.S. are blown way out of proportion relative to what the statistics say, what entities are driving this overreaction? What do they have to gain?

-CareWeMust

99% of the population don't get sick enough to warrant hospitalization? Sorry not buying it. Why did China and Italy react with the drastic measures they took?

Have you seen any first hand accounts of what it's like to have this virus? I have and it's basically pneumonia on steroids. Have you ever had pneumonia? I had it in 2003 when I was 26 and it almost killed me. I had cat scans and my lungs have scars from it.

My mom had lung cancer. They caught it early and she's cancer free. Chemo and radiation damaged her lungs. She couldn't survive and pneumonia like illness.

My aunt had a liver transplant to the cost of the American tax payers for $1,000,000. She takes drugs to suppress her immune system to keep it from attacking her liver.

My other aunt is having respiratory problems. She ended up in the hospital twice this year with pneumonia.

My grandmother is 80 years old and frail. I doubt she could survive a case of this.

Basically my entire family could get wiped out from this. CDC said 40%-60% of the population could catch this. The American medical association said possible 100,000,000 people in the US might get this.

If your in your 20's or 30's you probably have nothing to worry about. I'm the youngest in my family at 44.

There's a lot of misinformation out there and I'm not taking some off the wall websites word for it. I'll listen to the CDC and other experts thank you.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

The first thing to find out is how many hospital beds are available in this country.

Then, look at how many people who contract the Covid-19 virus, are sick enough to warrant a hospital stay.

Right now, there are 1,690 active cases in the United States. Of those 1,690 cases, 10 of them are in the hospital.

Once you know how many beds are available, you could calculate how big the epidemic would have to be to fill every bed.

Why are Americans always turning everything into something significant about our own politics. Seems so odd to try and turn a pandemic that started in China into a political boon for Biden? I don't even.

Things happen everyday that have nothing to do with us or our politics; not everything is about the MSM trying to take down Trump. Wake up.

originally posted by: wantsome

originally posted by: carewemust
Thursday, March 12, 2020

Statistics clearly show that 99% of those in the United States who have CoronaVirus-19, are not sick enough to warrant hospitalization.

Frequently Updated CV-19 USA Statistics: www.worldometers.info...

Naturally, the number of U.S. deaths from CoronaVirus-19 are therefore, minimal.

Since the cancellations, panic, and hysteria in the U.S. are blown way out of proportion relative to what the statistics say, what entities are driving this overreaction? What do they have to gain?

-CareWeMust

99% of the population don't get sick enough to warrant hospitalization? Sorry not buying it. Why did China and Italy react with the drastic measures they took?

There's a lot of misinformation out there and I'm not taking some off the wall websites word for it. I'll listen to the CDC and other experts thank you.

I'm speaking only about the USA. Besides the trusted www.worldometers.info... , the medical people who update the public in cities where national emergencies exist, also point out that very few cases require hospitalization. I was glad to see our Chicago officials make this point today at their CoronaVirus briefing.

As for the CDC website, it is not as thorough...and is not updated as often as: www.worldometers.info... . In fact, it shows fewer CoronaVirus Cases and fewer deaths than the Worldometers website...and it was just updated 8 hours ago. (Here: www.cdc.gov... )

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: carewemust

Where did you get your 99% mild cases number? I didnt see that in your source.

Look in the "Active Cases" box at: www.worldometers.info...

Right now it shows 1,690 current infected and 1,680 of them in mild condition.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: carewemust

Where did you get your 99% mild cases number? I didnt see that in your source.

Look in the "Active Cases" box at: www.worldometers.info...

Right now it shows 1,690 current infected and 1,680 of them in mild condition.

Oh I see that, thanks. However not to be mister debbie downer but couldn't some of those mild cases turn critical after the virus has had time to do its thing?

On 03/08/2020 there were 66 cases and as I type this today (five days later) there are now 1,762 cases. That means the vast majority of cases are still likely in incubation phase. I predict a fair amount of those will turn critical needing hospitalization. The numbers are out there. I believe it's something like 15% overall needing hospitalization (best guess so far). The pandemic is still in the beginning stages.

a reply to: carewemust
Has anyone mentioned "publishers of newspapers and other news media", who get more sales from dramatic headlines than from boring headlines?

a reply to: carewemust

You're 100% correct when stating how irrationally illogical it is to close colleges and K-12 schools over a virus that doesn't hurt people in those age ranges any more than the flu does.

Because most people have some old family members and they consider them humans in which their life has value. Also many children have underlying conditions that could put them at higher risk.

I believe I am to blame for driving hysteria. Well, to 7 people, anyway

(strong language)

a reply to: carewemust

your " statastics " are utter bollox

they simply ignore the dead

yeah - great - its not a problem for those who dont die

you ignored this in a previous thread - yet hear you are spreading the same idiocy in another thread

If everyone in the world was tested for the Coronavirus, I'd be willing to bet a house that the mortality rate is less than 1%. I'd have a hard time believing it would surpass .5%. Then add in that 80+% of those people were on their way out anyways due to terrible health and old age.