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Originally posted by madmanacrosswater
NOw if you believe God is active, real, powerful, aware... then why do you believe he cant protect his own bible from mere man?
Mere man? Not giving oneself much credit, eh?
The same reason he doesn't protect his children from disaster. He wants us to experience, and figure it out for ourselves.
God warned us there would be trials. Its not so we can experience the feelings and figure things out.
Paul had a 'thorn in his flesh'. Why? The bible tells us.
Jesus said we would be hated for his sake. He was hated, and so will we be.
God saves every one of his children in the end.
I see where you're coming from, but I'd like to propose a challenge for you and Al. Test the Word. Do as it says and see if it works. Let me know what the result is, I'm very interested in the follow-up. We can compare notes of the experiment.
Originally posted by madmanacrosswater
I don't think Christ is the reason many "hate Christians". In fact, it is not true Christians that the hate is pointed at. It is the use of Christ's name to push intolerance and fear that many "hate".
Its a pretty broad teaching in the bible that those that belong to Christ will be
few in number
Originally posted by dbrandtGod created Adam and Eve in His image.
Does not even begin to identify God’s image, unless of course you wish to state that God has a mind, will and emotions, a shocking revelation to be sure!
I'll have to answer a few at a time. God is a triune being, so are we. We have a body, soul and spirit. God is eternal. People once created will live forever somewhere. We were also created to have certain attributes that God has. We have a mind, will and emotions like God does. But we are not God nor ever will be.
Maybe if I can introduce Shakespeare to prove Hamlet, but be my guest anyway, I want to know what God’s image is, per you.
So do you want me to use Bible verses to show my points?
Why is God a triune because your NT scriptures say so?
Yes, I do. But I want support not some wayward interpretation which says nothing like: “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created them…” I want to know what constitutes God’s image.
Yes it does, do you want the places where it states this?
Why would God need a will exactly, since this is suggestive of being subject to good and evil?
First of all, I have never heard of such a thing as “will-Diligent,” Secondly, the question was posed because you offered this
I don't take it that way. Here is one definition of will-Diligent purposefulness; determination:. God cannot sin, He has plans that He carries out. One part of His will was that He was determined that mankind would have a Savior so any who wanted could escape eternal seperation from Him and choose the Savior and have eternal life.
Therefore, you have not supported your position which was to suggest that we, being created in God’s image have a will, therefore he had a will. But within a few words nonetheless, you contradict yourself in that while you don’t "take it" that God has a will, you use the term: “his will.” I would prefer clarity of thought dbrandt, can you muster same?
We were also created to have certain attributes that God has. We have a mind, will
No one will recognize that except for christians.
Many people saw HIM face to face. They saw HIM heal the sick. Feed the poor. Teaching and illustrating Gods principles and laws. Producing miracles that improved the lives of indivuals as well as thousands, etc..... and on and on it goes. All done in the name of Jesus Christ !
You Know I have often wounder why God made Satan,, with out him, Man would not have been Tempted, and every thing would have been hunke dorey and there would be no death..
BBBUUUUTTTTT That was the only way he could have given us a choose for which we could had to be with one or the other, We or I make our own way with whom I want too..