Ok, I have watched, and left alone, for a few days to let the answers come in to see what kind of diversity we get.
I expected 3 major types of answers.
1.) From Christians stating that its just the way the world is heading. Pointing out that satan is the prince of this world and things will
continually get worse.
2.) The 'neutral' folks who attempt to remain impartial and then go on to point out that there are legit reasons to hate christianity because of the
things done by 'the church' or credited to 'the church' throughout history and today. Although this person attempts to sound impartial, they
never do point out that an actual christian would not have done those things.
3.) The typical nazi type who doesnt really need a reason to attack christianity but can throw any one of a million things into the air as a reason to
serge seemed to go for the deepest answer and provide a source that could easily explain much of the problem within the church (and by proxy the
world) today, but I doubt anyone read it
Shdwfx explained topic hijacking history. (thanks...I didnt get into the computer communication thing until 93-94 and msg/chat until much later
partyof1 pointed out something that I doubt the intended audience will acknowledge. Interesting catch po1
toolmaker basically says that its ok to be anti-christian if you disagree with the bible. I disagree with allot of things. I prefer many things, but I
am not against the things I dont agree with. Maybe you dont like watermelon, IM sure your not out picketing fruitstands that sell it...nor do you goto
websites and bash it even tho advertisers try to sell it to you.
Its one thing to not agree with the bible. Its another to oppose those who do at every turn
Tassadar laid it out as Christ did. Maybe thats why. People like to think of Jesus as a loving teacher but he also spoke some pretty cold hard facts
from which everyone has to pick. Most people just dont like to be forced to chose, and hate those who make them do so.
Mr NoOne basically says that christians deserve it because they are hypocrites. What is funny here, is that he becomes one while trying to explain why
he feels christians are such.
What is a steel worker? Someone who works with steel.
What is a lawyer? Someone who practices law.
What is a homonsexual? Someone who practices homosexuality.
mrnoone says that all homo's do not have homo sex. Thats about as stupid as saying all steel workers dont work with steel ..etc etc...
Mrnoone, Christ says that the sin is commited in the heart. He gives the example of lust.
You say that christians deserve to be hated because they have different morals.
Sounds like a group 3
somewhereinbetween just outright attacks me and christianity....thus comfirming the need for this very topic.
He then goes on to say that because I distinguish christianity from toher faiths, I am bashing them. Basically this is saying that christians deserve
to be attacked because they are different.
Go figure. This is also a group three (not properly a nazi...but meaning someone who doesnt really need a reason to hate....but hates just because
The last thing is the most funny. This person actually says that christians should just be quiet and then they wouldnt get bashed!!
MrNoOne shows up again to say that amont other things, christians are wrong because christianity has
1.) changed 2.) Doesnt let jewish rabbis be saved 3.) Says homosexuallity is a sin 4.) Says that the ONLY way to heaven is through christ.
It is for those reasons that christians deserve to be hated.
Christ said HE is THE way. No OTHER way. THEE way.
RANT says that he agrees that this is a conspracy forum, but that there is no sign of 'antichristian' conspiracy in the postings here. He says that
this idea comes to the surface quite a bit around here (hmmm....) but it is not true. THere is not anti-christian tone in this forum.
He then goes on to say he joined the board in my signature and that there is no opposing view allowed there but a quick preview or a few questions
would prove that wrong. Let me know who you are over there and I will send you a PM with links to aggressive opposing view threads that exist over
Your point is well made concerning moderation and viewpoints however , when comparing these two boards. I was not talking about moderation though. I
was talking about the level to which people are willing to attack christians for their POV.
The only difference is your "anti-Christian conspiracy" is a mainstream topic pounded daily by right wing pundits on major news outlets.
I dont see that happening in the mainstream news outlets. I see MUCH in support of views that are non-biblical however. Are we talking about ABC NBC
CBS CNN FOX MSNBC?
Are there ANY right wing pundits on the major news outlets?
somewhereinbetween feels that now is a good time to do an outright attack against me and attempts to use christ to do it. Just like the popes of the
crusades and inquisitions...he attempts to use religion to attack others.
This shows that it is indeed a LACK OF KNOWLEDGE // FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN that is behind the hatred, because he knows very little about what he is
Actually I think it smacked me in the face where even I recoiled at the blatant apostasy:
Perhaps it was a smack in the face from a demon because you went to a christian site?
Why is your site advising people that is how you pray when you were told how to pray?
Matthew 6:6 (hmm) But thou when thou prayest, enters into thy closet..6:9(hmmm inverted 6) After this manner therefore pray ye: our father which art
Nowhere does it say to pray to Jesus. You were told how to pray and what to say, why is this being changed? It is hypocrisy such as this that does not
allow me tolerance of this religion.
So whats the deal? Are we supposed to pray to Jesus? Are we supposed to pray only the Lords prayer?
Joh 14:14 James 1:1-7; 1 Cor 1:2; Eph 5:19; Acts 8:22; Acts 2 Rev 22:20, 2 Cor 12:7-9, Acts 7:54-60; Acts 8:24, 1 Jn 5:11-15, Acts 1:24; Heb 7:25
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou
shalt be saved.
Tell me when anyone said that 'this' is the 'only' way you will pray to God or Jesus
blahbahblah also makes the point of the first post, group 3, spouting misinformation and confusing the facts with the beliefs, his and mine.
The only thing I really wanted to know was if anyone else noticed it, and perhaps why.
But i think I just got my answer.
Joh 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
Joh 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world,
therefore the world hateth you.
Joh 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you;
if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Joh 15:21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
Joh 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.
Joh 15:23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
Joh 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my
Joh 15:25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
You hate christians because you hate christ, but him, you hate without cause.
[edit on 12-3-2005 by jake1997]