The absurd fight against "idols" as the OP discusses, launched by the ultraconservative leaders of the unsanctioned cult within the Catholic Church,
puts reasonable doubts of returning to inquisition practices of witch hunt, to banned books, and to mind control of what the common Catholics should
The statues Pachamama are Not idols for the Christians, as St John Paul II clearly said it, they represent the earth's fertility. They could be
considered as "idols" by uneducated indigenous people of Amazonas. The war the fanatics launched though has the purpose of accusing the pope and his
aides in idolatry, and NOT to try to reach out to the Amazonian indigenous people for a reasonable dialogue including on the statues they venerate.
And pachamama is very very convenient chance to accuse the pope of idolatry, of sinning against the first commandment (as an open letter of
conservative catholics claimed), and even of satanism.
The conservative cult has for its true purpose the reversal of Vatican II council and making heretical all those decisions that followed, including
the establishment of the new (now common) Catholic Mass and reverting back to the Latin mass from 16th century (not that it dates back to the
apostles, it just doesn't matter, the point is to return the status quo ante).
Bishop Schneider, a vocal critic of pope Francis, goes on to accuse also the environmental movement:
“Anyone who has dealt with the global environmental movement has undoubtedly heard the term Gaia. Gaia is a revival of paganism that rejects
Christianity, views Christianity as its greatest enemy, and sees the Christian faith as the only obstacle to a global religion that focuses on the
worship of Gaia and the unification of all forms of life concentrated around the goddess ‘Mother Earth’ or the ‘Pachamama.’”
Cardinal Burke: “Something very grave happened during the special assembly of the bishops’ synod for the Amazon region. An idol was introduced
into St. Peter’s Basilica — the figure of a demonic force. Therefore reparation is necessary and also prayers, so that the diabolical forces that
entered with this idol are vanquished by the grace of God, by Christ who wants St. Peter’s Basilica to be purified of the sacrilegious act that took
place during the synod.”
With such ultra fanatical views by people who are still good standing bishops and cardinals, one cannot be surprised when several million common
conservative catholics, mainly in USA gathered around the Latin masses communities, reject practically every word pronounced by pope Francis. That is
a church within the Church, a fanatical cult that draws its inspiration from past centuries that know nothing of today's openness of the Catholic
Church. Thus, for the natural act of masturbation one could go to hell if not confessed, let alone for relation not sanctioned in marriage or
Those people may believe what they want, (providing they do not close their kids in iron domes rejecting them the right to have a normal youth, and
many do exactly that). But those people and their leaders do not have the right to determine what the Catholic Church of 1.3 bln people should
believe. As of today, they keep the hold on ANY meaningful change, and for reasons I do not fully understand the vast majority of moderates or liberal
clergy submitted to their will. Thus pope Francis apologized to the homosexuals but did not say openly that they may receive holy Communion, as he
said of the remarried. Even less to bless their unions. The Catholic Church is literally paralyzed by several dozen prelates (out of several thousand
bishops worldwide) who want back the Middle age mentality.
What reform could happen in that situation? All is doomed to fail, regardless of pope Francis' good intentions and those of his aides.
Only RADICAL measures starting today, not tomorrow, not after New year...could revert the tide. Maybe several excommunications to cardinals and
bishops who dared to accuse pope Francis in heresy, are needed not so much to punish them than to show the believers who follow them they are
desperately outdated and wrong. And much more, to unblock the so much needed reform of the Catholic Church.
The accusation of idolatry is only one step of accusation of anti-christ practices in the vatican. Let break down the statement of cardinal Burke
"...during the special assembly of the bishops’ synod for the Amazon region. An idol was introduced into St. Peter’s Basilica — the figure of a
Burke accuses the legitimate synod of Amazonas, a large region in the world's predominantly Catholic continent that has roughly 50% of all catholics.
And claims that an idol a figure of demonic force was introduced at the heart of the Catholic Church during that high legitimate gathering. In other
words, the pagan beliefs of Amazonas have made their way to St Peter's together with the demons they carry with them.
"...so that the diabolical forces that entered with this idol are vanquished by the grace of God, by Christ who wants St. Peter’s Basilica to be
purified of the sacrilegious act that took place during the synod.”
so for card. Burke the diabolical forces are already inside St Peter's basilica, and that happened as we know thanks to pope Francis' explicit
defense of pachamama presence. In other words, the responsible of ushering the diabolical forces is no one else but the pope himself, together with
the majority of bishops in the Amazon synod. With one shot card. Burke accuses both the pope and the majority of bishops who do not share his
radically conservative views. That also negates the synod's decisions, one of which was to allow married priesthood and to increase the role of women
in church services, something that the conservatives fight fiercely against.
Moreover, we are told there is "sacrilegious act" right in St Peter's basilica. That calls in mind the "abomination of desolation" of the End times,
although not quoted. One step from formally declaring the pope -antichrist.
It is nothing short of a total accusation against pope Francis and any reform he and his team plan to do, even before they do it. Still the document
of pope Francis after the synod is expected to be released. For cardinal Burke and the similar minded prelates, that all is wrong in advance,
diabolical, and sacrilegious. They negate any idea of a reform. And instead of admitting they are desperately outnumbered, they accuse the multitude
of bishops and the pope in idolatry, heresy, sacrilege, calling to mind the images of the End times prophecies...
There is no middle ground left. Either this or that view is right. And card. Burke's is NOT the right one.
They just call for their excommunication. If we are to have a future of the Catholic Church as a modern alternative of the Dark ages. If we do not
accept their view of a church that "flourished" during the Dark ages and now is in eclipse. If we want our kids and grandkids to rejoyce in God's love
and not to tremble everytime the inquisitor pronounces the next sets of sins to burn in hell. That all doesn't need more time to be decided.
And as in the previous post, I'd expect pope Francis to arrange the things in the best way turning 83 that his successor to be also pro reform and not
to revert back everything achieved after Vatican II after Saint John XXIII. The Catholic Church either makes it or breaks it this Christmas. For many
centuries to come...
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