The problem of gender.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Evolution. It's a thing.

Nobody can change their gender, no matter how much one may wish it was actually possible.

I've never thought about my gender being right, or wrong, good, or bad, lucky, or not lucky, blaming God, or praising God, for being born as male, not a female, or vice versa.

Gender is crucial to almost every single species on Earth, and some rare species which replicate alone, still have both genders present, so gender is still very important, for all life to continue, to survive, to exist as a species.


The claims about being someone trapped in the wrong body, doesn't know any other gender, but his/hers, and claims to know it's the right one, and if that doesn't defy all explanations, then nothing does.

All of us have a gender, it is not wrong, or right, it just is.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

There is no fossil support for "transitioning" asexual creatures into male and female.....this is a problem for the idea that it happened.

a reply to: TheRepublicOfCanada

There actually are some frogs and I think a few other animals that change sex under certain environmental pressures and can even reproduce after doing so.

Some human males can even with the right emotional stimuli start lactating when their children are born.

Sex is not as clear cut and simple in nature as people would like to pretend it is.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: TheRepublicOfCanada

There actually are some frogs and I think a few other animals that change sex under certain environmental pressures and can even reproduce after doing so.

Some human males can even with the right emotional stimuli start lactating when their children are born.

Sex is not as clear cut and simple in nature as people would like to pretend it is.

Reversing the entire millions of human history because some people decided they want to have an artificial vagina is not the same as nature really giving you the tools to do it, when needed

Some human males can even with the right emotional stimuli start lactating when their children are born.

Some human males are also serial killers, some are Hikikomori, should we assume there's a similar reason for that as well?

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

Without an intelligence, what are the odds we came to be male and female?

If the whole male and female phenomenon had anything to do with a higher intelligence, then why did they give males nipples?

Doesn't make any sense, does it?

Um, yes it does. Men have nipples because embryos are always female in their early stages, and males only differentiate from the female prototype after a few weeks. In other words, men's nipples are the vestiges of being born female.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

If Adam was made in gods image, does that mean "god" contemplates "its" navel?

....and the Von Neuman machines having tired of wiping out civilizations came upon the 3rd planet...and there they rested.

And they felt lonely...

and they created flesh and blood man...and they inserted themselves inside Man...so they could taste the sins of the Flesh...

and death.

I hope you see the improbability of how we could have ended up male and female without an intelligence.

Improbability is a value judgement.

A faith in a supreme creator is faith. No need for god - mono - triune - polytheistic perfection - sin - redemption mind convolutions for acceptance that life just is.

If man was so special why did this god give gender to the animal kingdom as well. We are no better than animals to this biblical god.

originally posted by: micpsi

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

Without an intelligence, what are the odds we came to be male and female?

If the whole male and female phenomenon had anything to do with a higher intelligence, then why did they give males nipples?

Doesn't make any sense, does it?

Um, yes it does. Men have nipples because embryos are always female in their early stages, and males only differentiate from the female prototype after a few weeks.

Which is a fact that supports the theory of evolution, over intelligent design... yeah?

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

If man was made in God's image, we'd all be invisible with no way of detecting ourselves. It would be just like we didn't exist.

originally posted by: TheRepublicOfCanada
You do realise gender/sex is also present in animals and insects, right? Even more so, we see natural "gender change" in certain plant species (NOT humans or other animals) and even asexual reproduction.

Actually, I recently learned it can happen in some frogs and a few select other animals, but what those who try to use this kind of thing to convince you that this somehow legitimizes the radical trans agenda, the 'sex' change (it isn't a gender change) usually happens during the embryo cycle. In those very rare cases where it can happen to a mature frog, the plumbing is actually already there, and it is in the DNA - in other words,m it isn't a birth defect, it is a normal aspect of their sexual 'identity' (pun intended)...

a reply to: tanstaafl
All mammals (including humans) begin female....some change to male in the womb... some don't.
That is why all mammals, male and female have nipples.

originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

If man was made in God's image, we'd all be invisible with no way of detecting ourselves. It would be just like we didn't exist.

'We' don't exist..... only the the visible image appears to exist.
Nothing is separate from this ever present visible image.

Christ (not a separate person but the ever present image of light) is the visible image of the invisible God.

Whatever is happening is all there is.... no thing separate in 'Christ'.... there is only the way, the truth.... the (one) life.

a reply to: Barcs

True...gods omniscient powers went AWOL in Eden..."Adam where are you....."

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: tanstaafl
All mammals (including humans) begin female....some change to male in the womb... some don't.
That is why all mammals, male and female have nipples.

Yeah (I watched Jurassic Park too), but the article I read about this was talking about a spontaneous change later in the cycle as a result of some external factors. I forget the details.

The bottom line is...

To any/all supporters of the trans ideology: come back and talk to me the day science reaches the stage where a fully functional adult male human being capable of fathering children can undergo some kind of treatment that transforms him into a fully functional adult female human being capable of becoming pregnant and carrying a child to term, and has no health or other complications for the remained of their lives.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

But there is no visible image of god. That was the point.

Which came 1st?

Per bible, man, then woman.

Developmental studies show embryos whether xy or XX or, the xy also starts off like XX til much later test hoRhone masculines the brain and reproductive anatomy.

In bird and reptiles it's reversed and environmental stressor can change the sex.

Some species can be hermophroditic, even humans as their are XXY and even xx-xy people out there.

But Mary not a human case of Parthenogenesis since no Y in her DNA

Anyway according to scripture, male were made first, right?

But science seem to value female more since it can inject egg with the females own DNA and shock it into a developing fetus, giving birth to new copies of her or anybody, even males or other species or genus!

Something some reptiles do naturally, clone themselves - females only?

originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: Itisnowagain

But there is no visible image of god. That was the point.

Says who?

The Bible states:
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.

And... Man is made in the image of God.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: Itisnowagain

But there is no visible image of god. That was the point.

Says who?

The Bible states:
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.

And... Man is made in the image of God.

What the bible claims is irrelevant, I'm talking about reality. There is no visible image of god and never has been. Plus nobody has actually seen Jesus, the stories are based on myths, and most people think Jesus looks WHITE. It's a complete guess based on presupposition. That's why I said if humans were created in god's image, then they were created to appear non existent because that's exactly how god seems since there is no way to observe, test or measure god, just blind faith in mythology.

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 3:28, NIV

originally posted by: BrianFlanders
Gender doesn't have to be a problem unless you feel it is your right to force other people into your way of thinking. And this goes for those who identify as something other than what is written on their birth certificate as well as everyone else.

If everyone would just go their own way and leave everyone else alone, it would probably not be nearly as big a problem.

Religion seems to be the big problem in this equation. If your religion requires you to get in the way of someone else's happiness, then you are actually abusing your right to believe whatever you want to believe. Because you are acting on it. You don't just have an opinion. You want to put the force of law behind your religion. And that is very problematic in the real world.

Sorry bud but it is libtards like yourself that are causing problems, for example Canada's new law that impose prison terms if we use the wrong pronoun. NO OTHER GROUP GETS TO IMPOSE PRISON TIME IF OFFENDED

Look, if you feel insulted, get in line like everybody else and use EXISTING slander laws .

YOU > 0.1 % MINORITY ALWAYS DEMAND SPECIAL TREATMENT
Majority is getting tired of being FORCED to play at your insane mind games.

SCIENCE : There is XY and XX, fixed at conception . PERIOD. Nothing else. Any other drivel you push is MENTAL ILLNESS

Majority rule - if good for South Africa, then good enough for here as well.