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The problem of gender.

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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 04:22 PM
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The poster offered a fairly innocent question on topic in this particular forum.

What are the odds that male and female sexes would have developed without an Intelligence (which is usually a by-word for Intelligent Creator)? (The OP misspoke and equated sex and gender.)

The world is full of living things that are not male or female. Therefore, to the initial question, I say 100% chance.




posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: M5xaz

Everything you wrote there is false.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: M5xaz

Everything you wrote there is false.


Nope.
Everything I wrote there is true.

Because I should go to jail when using the wrong pronoun in Canada with a Tranny ?
Ridiculous.
How can you not see that this is not equal treatment ?

Like I said, if you feel insulted, get in line like EVERYBODY ELSE and use EXISTING slander laws INSTEAD OF DEMANDING SPECIAL LAWS , AND CRIMINAL PROSECUTION ON TOP OF THAT, FOR THIS GROUP ALONE.
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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: M5xaz

Nope.

Fox News



In addition to race, religion and sexual orientation, bill C-16 added gender identity and gender expression as areas that can be grounds for discrimination under Canada's Human Rights Act. It also amended the country's criminal code to add protections for transgender people against hate speech.

But experts say just using an incorrect pronoun isn't enough to qualify as criminal hate speech. "Absolutely not a chance," says University of Toronto law professor Brenda Cossman. "There is no criminalization of the misuse of pronouns."


None of the rest is true either; but sadly, off topic here.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

OP, would you clarify?

Sex is the biological differnces in animals regarding reproductive and developmental characteristics, generally separable into male and female in mammals, reptiles, amphibians (although their sex can change), birds, fish etc.

Gender is the socio-cultural definitions for man (male) and woman (female) in terms of traits like grooming, dress, mannerisms, etc.

Which do you mean to suggest requires a Creator?
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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: M5xaz

Nope.

Fox News



In addition to race, religion and sexual orientation, bill C-16 added gender identity and gender expression as areas that can be grounds for discrimination under Canada's Human Rights Act. It also amended the country's criminal code to add protections for transgender people against hate speech.

But experts say just using an incorrect pronoun isn't enough to qualify as criminal hate speech. "Absolutely not a chance," says University of Toronto law professor Brenda Cossman. "There is no criminalization of the misuse of pronouns."


None of the rest is true either; but sadly, off topic here.


Again NOPE.

The Bill allows for it.
It is merely the opinion of that lawyer that it will not be used this way.

We already know which way activist judges go.

XX will never be a man
XY will never be a female
Science.

Anything else is a mental delusion
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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: M5xaz

Are you an expert in Canadian law?

If not you're expressing your opinion, the opinions of two Canadian law specialists disagree with you.

Your claim is absurd.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: M5xaz

Are you an expert in Canadian law?

If not you're expressing your opinion, the opinions of two Canadian law specialists disagree with you.

Your claim is absurd.


No
Claiming XY is female or XX is male or defending that view if absurd.
Anyone can see which way the courts go

QED



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: M5xaz

Wrong again.



Humans are born with 46 chromosomes in 23 pairs. The X and Y chromosomes determine a person’s sex. Most women are 46XX and most men are 46XY. Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex.


World Health Organization



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Sure
There are RARE hermaphrodites and rare cases of
Turner syndrome
XXX Females
Klinefelter Syndrome
XYY Males

By definition, none of the above are XY or XX and the above are genetically testable.

Same as the case of that 7 year old in Texas - test him genetically, if he fits in one of the
scientifically demonstrable categories based on genetic testing ,fine, transition the kid.

If not genetic, it is child abuse to transition him if he is XY.
Not old enough to smoke or drive but old enough to be subjected to life changing surgery and life long dependencies on hormones.

So sorry, but you are wrong again

XY Male
XX Female



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: M5xaz

I have shown two instances in which experts in the respective matters of your claims directly contradict you.

The only evidence you have offered in rebuttal to those experts is your own opinion (again.)

Anyone interested in the truth can determine it on their own.

Best.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 10:16 PM
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There's so many pockets of XYs that are female gender cause of various testosterone insensitivity issues that are genetic and these days increasingly exogenous; in the Dominican Rep and India for example, so many males are born female or intersexual and raised as such rather than just assigned whatever their DNA testate shows, which can be wrong or vary including because of chimeraism.

They need a movie for XYs born female (obv missing ovaries) just like there's already one (Spanish) for XXY born female but during puberty the inny turned into an outty which was very traumatic for not just her but also her date!


Obviously a female born with one blue eye and one brown may be heterozygous Bb, but not necessarily., and how does one explain genetic hetero chromium in male men?

likewise calico male cats are usually sterile - but not always



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Gender is the socio-cultural definitions for man (male) and woman (female) in terms of traits like grooming, dress, mannerisms, etc.


Gender is a grammatical term for masculine, feminine and neutral nouns/pronouns but it has been hijacked by SJWs who want to convince everyone (by lying and misrepresentation) that LGBT issues have been a prominent influence throughout human history and suppressed by the hateful white christian bloc.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: M5xaz

Everything you wrote there is false.


Nope.
Everything I wrote there is true.

Because I should go to jail when using the wrong pronoun in Canada with a Tranny ?
Ridiculous.
How can you not see that this is not equal treatment ?

Like I said, if you feel insulted, get in line like EVERYBODY ELSE and use EXISTING slander laws INSTEAD OF DEMANDING SPECIAL LAWS , AND CRIMINAL PROSECUTION ON TOP OF THAT, FOR THIS GROUP ALONE.


That's not even close to how that law works.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: M5xaz

Nope.

Fox News



In addition to race, religion and sexual orientation, bill C-16 added gender identity and gender expression as areas that can be grounds for discrimination under Canada's Human Rights Act. It also amended the country's criminal code to add protections for transgender people against hate speech.

But experts say just using an incorrect pronoun isn't enough to qualify as criminal hate speech. "Absolutely not a chance," says University of Toronto law professor Brenda Cossman. "There is no criminalization of the misuse of pronouns."


None of the rest is true either; but sadly, off topic here.


Exactly. People are posting fake outrage over that law as if anything changed. The only difference is that gender ID now gets the same protections that race, class, sex, etc ALREADY HAS. As if accidentally calling somebody a "she" when they are a "he" will put somebody in jail. That's not how it works, but bigots these days will say anything to promote their hate.

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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Gender is the socio-cultural definitions for man (male) and woman (female) in terms of traits like grooming, dress, mannerisms, etc.


Gender is a grammatical term for masculine, feminine and neutral nouns/pronouns but it has been hijacked by SJWs who want to convince everyone (by lying and misrepresentation) that LGBT issues have been a prominent influence throughout human history and suppressed by the hateful white christian bloc.


LOL! They HAVE been oppressed by Christians for thousands of years. Being gay is punishable by death in the bible, they have been executed for millenia, but yeah that's all just a scam right? Treating people equal is a scam?



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 02:48 PM
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The TRANS movement - as covered by MSM - is obviously meant to divide and conquer US, as well as make fornicators and such feel like they're not doing anything 'wrong'!

Plain and simple.


Surely we are all connected regardless of how crazy our sexuality (if any) may be.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: letni

LOL @ fornicators. Grow up. You get your morality from a book that supports slavery. You have no place to even talk.



posted on Nov, 2 2019 @ 02:56 AM
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They removed the passages on slavery being wrong, and twisted the rest to make it appear they approved of it, that was common at the time, with many other issues, as well.

The Bible speaks about love, and freedom, repeatedly, which directly conflicts with any passage supposedly in support of slavery. This shows that the Bible was edited afterwards, and twisted around to look like it was approved of, but they did not think of removing any, and all, of the conflicting evidence. Oops.



posted on Nov, 2 2019 @ 05:24 AM
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Is Evolution’s Foundation Missing? (Awake!—1997)

WHAT is the essence of Darwin’s theory of evolution? “In its full-throated, biological sense, . . . evolution means a process whereby life arose from nonliving matter and subsequently developed entirely by natural means.” Darwinian evolution postulates that “virtually all of life, or at least all of its most interesting features, resulted from natural selection working on random variation.”—Darwin’s Black Box—The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution,* by Michael Behe, associate professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. [*: Referred to from here on as Darwin’s Black Box.]

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The Problems of the Beginning of Life

No matter how plausible Darwin’s theory of evolution may appear to be in the eyes of some scientists, they must ultimately face the question, Even if we assume that forms of living things evolved by natural selection, how did life get its start? In other words, the problem lies, not in survival of the fittest, but in arrival of the fittest and the first! However, as Darwin’s remarks on the evolution of the eye indicate, he was not concerned with the problem of how life began. He wrote: “How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light hardly concerns us more than how life itself originated.”

French science writer Philippe Chambon wrote: “Darwin himself wondered how nature selected emerging forms before they were perfectly functional. The list of evolutionary mysteries is endless. And today’s biologists have to humbly admit, with Prof. Jean Génermont of the University of South Paris in Orsay, that ‘the synthetic theory of evolution cannot readily explain the origin of complex organs.’”

In the light of the tremendous odds against such endless variety and complexity of life forms, do you find it difficult to believe that it all evolved in the right direction just by chance? Do you wonder how any creatures could have survived in the battle of the survival of the fittest while they were still evolving eyes? Or while they were supposedly forming primitive fingers on a subhuman body? Do you wonder how cells survived if they existed in an incomplete and inadequate state?

Robert Naeye, a writer for Astronomy magazine and an evolutionist, wrote that life on earth is the result of “a long sequence of improbable events [that] transpired in just the right way to bring forth our existence, as if we had won a million-dollar lottery a million times in a row.” That line of reasoning can probably be applied to every single creature that exists today. The odds are stacked against it. Yet, we are expected to believe that by chance evolution also produced a male and a female at the same time in order for the new species to be perpetuated. To compound the odds, we also have to believe that the male and the female not only evolved at the same time but also in the same place! No meeting, no procreation!

Certainly, it stretches credulity to the limit to believe that life exists in its millions of perfected forms as a result of millions of gambles that paid off.

Why Do the Majority Believe?

...

What viable and reliable alternative is there to Darwin’s theory of evolution? Our final article in this series will address that question.

Final article: God—Gambler or Creator? (Awake!—1997)



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