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The problem of gender.

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posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 11:33 AM
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For those God found it's not unusual to believe God made us male and female. How it occurred you can't really tell from the Bible. Did God make Adam with a reproduction organ from day one? The Bible doesn't go into much detail about it but for most of the believers it's obvious God made us male and female.

Without an intelligence, what are the odds we came to be male and female?

I hope you see the improbability of how we could have ended up male and female without an intelligence.




posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 11:53 AM
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You do realise gender/sex is also present in animals and insects, right? Even more so, we see natural "gender change" in certain plant species (NOT humans or other animals) and even asexual reproduction.
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posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 11:53 AM
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Gender doesn't have to be a problem unless you feel it is your right to force other people into your way of thinking. And this goes for those who identify as something other than what is written on their birth certificate as well as everyone else.

If everyone would just go their own way and leave everyone else alone, it would probably not be nearly as big a problem.

Religion seems to be the big problem in this equation. If your religion requires you to get in the way of someone else's happiness, then you are actually abusing your right to believe whatever you want to believe. Because you are acting on it. You don't just have an opinion. You want to put the force of law behind your religion. And that is very problematic in the real world.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

The Bible is quite specific how God made Adam on the 6th day.

God made Adam from the dust of the ground and breathed 'life' into him so Adam became a living being. (Pretty sure it's Genesis 2:7).

God was just as specific on how he created Eve in Genesis 2:21.

He caused Adam to fall into a deep sleep and took one of Adam's ribs and made Eve.

So - no, there's no 'problem' with genders.

There are 2. Just as the Creator planned it.

peace



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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the problem is not Gender, the problem is people

XX or XY is pretty much it for all of us

some outliers do exist, but it's rare.

so can anyone use science to prove XX or XY are wrong?

they sex is nature and gender is social, only because they want to change the deffinition of Gender.


there are lots of words I would like to change the definition of, when do we start??

George Carlin changed the word KILL to the slang word for intercouse, I will substitute LOVE

"we're gonna Love you Sheriff, we're gonna Love you slowly"

so ya that offensive word and KILL should mean "Love" now

and other things that offend folks like "Cra cker" or it's Opposite can mean "Buffoon" now.

(funny how I can put "cr acker" but not the other word huh?, You'd think that would be racist)



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: TheRepublicOfCanada

You do understand good made those also and it it would be just as improbable for any living thing to require sexual reproduction versus asexual.

Jaden



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

For those God found it's not unusual to believe God made us male and female. How it occurred you can't really tell from the Bible. Did God make Adam with a reproduction organ from day one? The Bible doesn't go into much detail about it but for most of the believers it's obvious God made us male and female.

Without an intelligence, what are the odds we came to be male and female?

I hope you see the improbability of how we could have ended up male and female without an intelligence.



What is the intelligence of a plant? They too need transfer gametes to the female ovules in a process called pollination. As to male and female as maybe you suggest it is we have had different roles just like lets say lions do. For someone to say they are a attack helicopter is about as crazy as the 65 other genders we seem to have, next year it will be 75 most likely.

I think you are trying to say we would not have more than two genders without intelligence. In the past gender aligned with biology and now it aligns with your feelings and that is pure intelligence based.


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posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

Without an intelligence, what are the odds we came to be male and female?


If the whole male and female phenomenon had anything to do with a higher intelligence, then why did they give males nipples?

Doesn't make any sense, does it?



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: TheRepublicOfCanada

You do understand good made those also and it it would be just as improbable for any living thing to require sexual reproduction versus asexual.

Jaden


Yes, "God" made everything diddums.

He also made the other billions of stars and trillions of planets. Yes, diddums.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Would a male without nipples make sense?



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: BrianFlanders




If everyone would just go their own way and leave everyone else alone, it would probably not be nearly as big a problem.

A huge section of society wants to be outraged and offended, they live for it, they have a tendency to applaud, lets say racist behaviour and call those who point it out easily outraged and offended.
If it's not black people taking knee before a sports game it's Hispanics invading, middle easterners are terrorists, gays are an affront to god, atheists are a threat to judeo-christians (yet jews hate jesus), women complain of being raped, a young girl wants us to recycle, dogs are killing machines and today trannies are getting it both literally and figuratively, I think because those offended got a stiffy while viewing porn?

Unfortunately, that always oppressed section have proven it can be vote/ratings winner gettting s hits for certain websites and viewers for fox news and, certain politicians making it their crusade, hence its in the news recycler spin, ironic,Greta would be proud.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

I'm really struggling to understand what you're trying to say... especially because you are speaking of biological sex, not gender.


For those God found it's not unusual to believe God made us male and female.


Yes, we were made male and female by our Creator... whoever and whatever that is. No "belief." One's anatomical sex is objective, tangible and observable by anyone and everyone, even long after death when only a skeleton is remains.


Without an intelligence, what are the odds we came to be male and female?


I suppose the same as the odds that a plant or animal can reproduce asexually or via fragmentation -- which some do. There is no one way to reproduce, so I don't understand why sexual reproduction would indicate intelligent design (aka "God") and asexual would not indicate intelligent design. Especially since people who are monotheistic would necessarily believe that God is thee one and only source of creation, so all methods of reproduction would be the result of intelligent design.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:38 PM
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Sex and gender are not the same thing, necessarily.

If “sex” is the hardware you are born with, “gender” is the “software” you were given to operate the hardware. The two usually mesh, but occasionally they do not.

Fortunately, we are now better able to change the hardware to match the software. We do not understand the software well enough, yet, to fix it; we can’t even begin to successfully change it (hence the continued existence of terrorists and murders).

And yes, examples of animals spontaneously changing sex do exist; it is assumed that they adopt the gender characteristics analogous to their newly assumed sex upon transition, but since we are not able to communicate in detail with other specie, this assumption is based solely on observation of their new behaviors.

Why are some people so negatively concerned about the sexual/gender expression of other people?

Why does it matter?

Just respect people AS people, however they present themselves. Unless, and until you can telepathically “know” what is truly within another’s mind, the only way you can know them is by what the show you.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

I have always been baffled by the fact that nature evolution would have split into male and female. This system is dependent on hooking up with the same species the same group within that species. This has always seemed like a dicey way of doing reproduction. What if there was only one female and no males or males without females, a whole speice could die out without ever mating. Truly bizarre on natures part.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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lmfao

1+1=2
xx or xy

its as objective as math.
male or female genetically.

male or female AFTER by choice.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: JON666

If find it very improbable that that which we live and experience is not part of a creation.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

Both definitions can easily suit the topic, as well the social aspect as the sex really.

But honestly originally I wanted to mean sex with gender.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

I have always been baffled by the fact that nature evolution would have split into male and female. This system is dependent on hooking up with the same species the same group within that species. This has always seemed like a dicey way of doing reproduction. What if there was only one female and no males or males without females, a whole speice could die out without ever mating. Truly bizarre on natures part.



It must have been evolutionary beneficial.

With asexual reproduction there is no mixing. All you get are essentially clones with occasional mutations. This means there is less diversity, lowering adaption to changes in environment.



posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

The Only Real Problem I see with Genders is due to Mathematics , there are Only Two Divided by Themselves .
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posted on Oct, 5 2019 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

I have always been baffled by the fact that nature evolution would have split into male and female. This system is dependent on hooking up with the same species the same group within that species. This has always seemed like a dicey way of doing reproduction. What if there was only one female and no males or males without females, a whole speice could die out without ever mating. Truly bizarre on natures part.



It must have been evolutionary beneficial.

With asexual reproduction there is no mixing. All you get are essentially clones with occasional mutations. This means there is less diversity, lowering adaption to changes in environment.


This a hundred times over. This is the very well known assessment of why sexes emerged and allowed for evolutionary diversity, and in the end, a higher chance of survivability.

The OP is asking a question that is such a quick internet search away.



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