Should we ban folks from changing race/race changes - Ban Transracialism?

I would say "required" is a strong word, probably more of a guideline. It's not like someone is checking, but I think it could be used against you in a case like Warren now. If you are going to get into politics or be a celebrity or something that your past will be looked at with a fine toothed comb..


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a reply to: JAGStorm

For government purposes, you need to be at least 1/16th to be considered mixed race I believe. So Warren is nowhere near close enough for government work. In fact, most average Americans are going to have more Native American heritage than she does if we all got tested. So if that's all it takes to claim Native American heritage for Harvard's standards, then there are no real Native Americans.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I can only go back two generations so I dont have a clue what is in my makeup.

My mothers people came from the UK. Wales and England. My fathers people were from Italy.
But there could be anything at all in that makeup because europe is a melting pot of people.

a reply to: JAGStorm


I get that. If the question is asked to make sure guidelines for diversity are followed than I am fine with that.

If the question came up on a mortgage application that would be a different matter.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Race and gender shouldn't be on any type of paperwork.
The only reason for those to be on any form is to give someone an advantage other than merit.

a reply to: willzilla
Andrew Yang left off the hyphen in his speech last night at the Democratic debate and confused the hell out of me, for a hot minute.

When I first heard him say,"I am Asian", I immediately thought, "Why the heck are you up there competing for the position of "American" President?

So I guess in some circumstances the hyphen is necessary.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Probably yeah. Nothing to stop them from claiming they're president, or royalty either. Ths sh@t needs to stop.

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII
Should we ban folks from "changing race" and identifying as a different "race"?

Well, lets see...

Should we ban folks from flying with the use of only their hands/arms?

How about banning folks from being able to breathe underwater without the use of SCUBA or other apparatus?

That said, any attempt at defrauding someone through the use of 'identifying' as a race other than the race they are should be punishable by full restitution and 8 hours in the public stocks. Other than that, your OP is ridiculous and laughable on its face.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Race is fully identity based. According to the US government census documentation.

There are two types of people here -

Legal citizens.
Illegal immigrants.

Check appropriate box and move on.

I dont believe in special favors for any group of humans because of their ancestry.

a reply to: JAGStorm

You understand that they are now applying a scoring criteria to one of the college admittance exams (either SAT or ACT) that seeks to weight the persons raw score by their "adversity" score meaning factors like eithnicity can add or detract points from the overall score?

Knowing that, race and racial issues become important.

a reply to: ketsuko

For government purposes its what you identify as.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: tanstaafl

Race is fully identity based. According to the US government census documentation.

Then the government doesnt believe racism exists it's more like identity-ism?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JAGStorm

You understand that they are now applying a scoring criteria to one of the college admittance exams (either SAT or ACT) that seeks to weight the persons raw score by their "adversity" score meaning factors like eithnicity can add or detract points from the overall score?

Knowing that, race and racial issues become important.

If it is a privately funded institution, that's their choice.

But if my taxes are funding it, no way in hell should that be acceptable.

I'll begrudgingly accept social security tax, as it helps people.
However I shouldn't have to pay for ever increasing costs of "education" for colleges who want play p.c./ s.j.w. games...

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: ketsuko

For government purposes its what you identify as.

Well then, there is no racism because we all choose to be whatever race we're running around calling ourselves, and I can start being African-American tomorrow.

Thanks for clearing all that up.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AnakinWayneII


National security issue too? What would that be?

And can I just say Wow and homophobic too.
None of this is relevant to crime either.

How am I homophobic? "Transgenderism" has nothing to do with gay folk. Homosexuality and bisexuality is not even in the same sphere as the craziness that is "transgenderism".

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JAGStorm

You understand that they are now applying a scoring criteria to one of the college admittance exams (either SAT or ACT) that seeks to weight the persons raw score by their "adversity" score meaning factors like eithnicity can add or detract points from the overall score?

Knowing that, race and racial issues become important.

They scraped that

www.nytimes.com...

a reply to: JAGStorm

But only because people found out about it and complained, not because they decided it was wrong and not because the colleges in question were protesting or refusing to use it.

Btw, as someone who has Asian ancestry, your kids are going to be on the outside in this as much as mine are. Asians are as discriminated against as whites when it comes to academic diversity marks because y'all are just too high achieving so it's not fair to others who can't be bothered to raise their own kids to work hard and do well in school.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JAGStorm

You understand that they are now applying a scoring criteria to one of the college admittance exams (either SAT or ACT) that seeks to weight the persons raw score by their "adversity" score meaning factors like eithnicity can add or detract points from the overall score?

Knowing that, race and racial issues become important.

They scraped that

www.nytimes.com...

As far as I know they haven't scrapped their diversity programs.
Oddly enough every diversity program is ran by a minority so they are not very diverse...
How ironic...

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JAGStorm

But only because people found out about it and complained, not because they decided it was wrong and not because the colleges in question were protesting or refusing to use it.

Btw, as someone who has Asian ancestry, your kids are going to be on the outside in this as much as mine are. Asians are as discriminated against as whites when it comes to academic diversity marks because y'all are just too high achieving so it's not fair to others who can't be bothered to raise their own kids to work hard and do well in school.

Oh believe me I know, we are held to the highest standard of all. Waiting to see what happens with the Harvard ruling.
I am 100% against affirmative action, and truly believe we should all be equal and that is the opposite of equal.