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Should we ban folks from changing race/race changes - Ban Transracialism?

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posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:12 AM
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originally posted by: Necrobile
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Well what about mixed race people like me?? More often than not I don't like putting my race on anything, but some places don't give you the option not to. So sometimes I'll put white, sometimes I'll put hispanic. Both are technically right.

Really, BomSquad has the best point. None of this should matter, and places shouldn't be allowed to prevent one from declining the race question in general.


Why would hispanic be considered a race? I know dominicans who are essentially black and puerto ricans who are blond haired and blue eyed yet both are hispanic.

I do not think the federa; government considers hispanic a race.

I also think you can just skip any questions that are about race on an application. If someone insists I would ask why.
Sometimes they ask simply to prove that they are compliant in hiring practices. They cannot base hiring on race. That is against the law.




posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Dude no one is saying race isn't an issue in this country.

We are saying it should not be.

Skin color does not matter. My own changes with the seasons for christs sake.

It simply does not matter what color you are.

The only race that needs to matter is the human race.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: Necrobile
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Well what about mixed race people like me?? More often than not I don't like putting my race on anything, but some places don't give you the option not to. So sometimes I'll put white, sometimes I'll put hispanic. Both are technically right.

Really, BomSquad has the best point. None of this should matter, and places shouldn't be allowed to prevent one from declining the race question in general.


Why would hispanic be considered a race? I know dominicans who are essentially black and puerto ricans who are blond haired and blue eyed yet both are hispanic.

I do not think the federa; government considers hispanic a race.

I also think you can just skip any questions that are about race on an application. If someone insists I would ask why.
Sometimes they ask simply to prove that they are compliant in hiring practices. They cannot base hiring on race. That is against the law.


I know you are talking to another poster, but I agree with you here - to an extent. I've never even agreed with the term "transracialism"...



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
Why would hispanic be considered a race?


Well, if you want to get technical about it, fine, replace all the times I said "hispanic" with "mexican" and you'll get my point. I've just always been led to believe that saying "hispanic" was more polite, similar to saying "native american" rather than "indian", but hey, let's throw politeness out the window and be more technical.

My point still stands. I know many mexicans that support Trump. Are they racist against their own people?? Are they all "Tio and Tia Toms"??



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:18 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Obviously it is.... for you.
Know what that means?

Yeah that.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:18 AM
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I've got two minds on this one.

One- race is a statistic.
Height, skin color, eye color, hair color... mixed races complicates it but there's a perfectly reasonable way to categorize this.
Dna testing is the easiest method, of course. We could pretty much make a race grid and pin people right in their square or whatever, and it would be a good thing for identification.
Of course, in a world where people can change their gender all willy nilly and ignore all logic, reason and science... the whole concept of identification gets all wishy-washy.

Of course, on my other mind...
I really, really don't want any government identifying me by any measure. Obviously its too late for that- they're watching everything and keeping statistics on us, building their own little social credit score.
In the past few years, I'm sure they had to add a few more line items to each persons file- 'claimed gender' and 'claimed race' - where of course they keep ACTUAL race and gender on file under 'race' and 'gender'

Anyone claiming to be something they're not are just mentally unstable. If you can't come to terms with what you are, how can you expect anyone else to?



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:19 AM
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As an aside, there are also national security issues to take into consideration.

Much like some folks may be worried about the recent movement of "transgenderism" and how it could go hand in hand with crime and identity theft, so other folks are worried about "transracialism" and how it could go hand in hand with crime and national security threats.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:20 AM
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a reply to: lordcomac

what are we looking for in the DNA?

Black or white?
99% of blacks have white blood due to slave owners raping their slaves to increase their stock.

See how stupid and irrelevant such a decree would be?

Not necessary... an IQ test I could get behind.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:21 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Obviously it is.... for you.
Know what that means?

Yeah that.


What? That I'm racist?

You must live in a liberal wonderland? How is it there? Free healthcare, one-day work weeks and a Mexican housekeeper and maid?



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII


National security issue too? What would that be?

And can I just say Wow and homophobic too.
None of this is relevant to crime either.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

OK, so race isn't a thing which is fine and for the record I agree it shouldn't be and shouldn't matter anymore than hair or eye color, but whether or not you are legally a citizen of a country very much does matter.

Cultures are different and you cannot deny it.

No matter what ethnic background, skin, hair or eye color you are, you will be a very, very different person if you happen to be adopted and raised in the US as opposed to adopted and raised by parents in China ... or India ... or Nigeria ... or Russia. All are very different countries speaking different primary and secondary languages with different cultures and ways of doing things.

And there is a reason why countries seek to preserve their cultural distinctiveness through borders and immigration laws.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:32 AM
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All this transracial crap is confusing.

Interesting snippets.

Skin whitening in some African communities and in parts of Asia cause all sorts of problems. Basically, they perceive lighter skin to be better. By trying to change the colour of their skin are they trying to change their racial identity?

Are dreadlocks specific to a particular race? As in the view that a white guy with dreadlocks is engaged in cultural appropriation. Don't mention that dreadlocks are not exclusively African as that would spoil the story!

Canada Geese have different races. Little known fact outside the those who are interested in such things. Canada Geese in Britain, whose ancestors came from (er) Canada and North America, are now form their own distinct race, but not a different species.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: AnakinWayneII
As an aside, there are also national security issues to take into consideration.

Much like some folks may be worried about the recent movement of "transgenderism" and how it could go hand in hand with crime and identity theft, so other folks are worried about "transracialism" and how it could go hand in hand with crime and national security threats.


Spit is out, say what you mean.
What is your beef?

Are you worried that Hispanic people can change their race to white? Or that white people will claim they are black?
What crime and national security threats are we talking here?



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

It happens in fish too.

Get into aquarium fish for long enough and you know that within a species you can often have different variants that will display different color morphs depending on their collection points in the wild. They are not a different species, but you do need to keep and breed the different morphs separate as if they were or else they are considered a hybrid, neither one or the other.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Elizabeth Warren claimed Native American ancestry in order to get an employment advantage.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JAGStorm

Elizabeth Warren claimed Native American ancestry in order to get an employment advantage.


Is that illegal or a national security risk?



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:42 AM
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Along with race, I wish people would quit hyphenating Americans. Hyphens kinda belong in a last name.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII


Should we ban folks from "changing race" and identifying as a different "race"?


Why? That makes no sense. It's impossible to change race just like it's impossible to change "gender." With no laws, there is no change. All a law can do is enable one to "change" to a literal legal fiction.... so the law might allow one to claim to be a different race or gender, but the inherent physical reality remains the same.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JAGStorm

Elizabeth Warren claimed Native American ancestry in order to get an employment advantage.


Is that illegal or a national security risk?


It's lying to gain financial advantage. But considering that there are plenty of scholarships and other programs open only to people of certain ethnic backgrounds, you could call it a form of fraud.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Why are you obsessed with transracialism?



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