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Should we ban folks from changing race/race changes - Ban Transracialism?

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posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 07:46 AM
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Should we ban folks from "changing race" and identifying as a different "race"?

Should countries like the USA, Canada, the UK and France etc pass legislation which prohibits folks from "changing race" and identifying as a different "race"?

What do you think? Thoughts?

(Should we ban transracialism?)


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posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 07:51 AM
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More importantly, why should anyone care what "race" you are in the first place?



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: BomSquad
More importantly, why should anyone care what "race" you are in the first place?


This is an issue for society in general, as a whole.

You seem to be living in a fantasy land where you think everybody is a lovey-dovey liberal who loves mass immigration and wants everything to be free.

Okay...
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posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 07:56 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Well what about mixed race people like me?? More often than not I don't like putting my race on anything, but some places don't give you the option not to. So sometimes I'll put white, sometimes I'll put hispanic. Both are technically right.

Really, BomSquad has the best point. None of this should matter, and places shouldn't be allowed to prevent one from declining the race question in general.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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originally posted by: AnakinWayneII
Should we ban folks from "changing race" and identifying as a different "race"?

Should countries like the USA, Canada, the UK and France etc pass legislation which prohibits folks from "changing race" and identifying as a different "race"?

What do you think? Thoughts?



There would only be one way to do this and this is not something most people want to do, DNA testing.

Right now in the US we don't have a clear definition on what race is, words like "have origins" are often used.
Some say whatever your mother is, some say if you have a drop of black blood, or whatever your father is.

Fact is, it is just not defined. I am of mixed race, I have used whatever benefits me and same for my children.

One of my kids schools went crazy over this. I marked them as Caucasian, even though it is obvious they are also ethnic. They sent home the demographic sheet and called me 2x to ask me the same question over and over. I said White/Caucasian and boy were they mad. I'm sure they get a little more money or get to check a box if I said something else.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 07:58 AM
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originally posted by: AnakinWayneII
You seem to be living in a fantasy land where you think everybody is a lovey-dovey liberal who loves mass immigration and wants everything to be free.


Wow, that's a stretch that even Stretch Armstrong would be envious of.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

The question about race needs to come off of every application or paperwork that now has one.
Period.

Why do we need to be concerned with skin color? Why is this even a question?

Do we group people by eye color?

Hair color can change with the wind so we wont even go there.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: Necrobile
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Well what about mixed race people like me?? More often than not I don't like putting my race on anything, but some places don't give you the option not to. So sometimes I'll put white, sometimes I'll put hispanic. Both are technically right.

Really, BomSquad has the best point. None of this should matter, and places shouldn't be allowed to prevent one from declining the race question in general.


This isn't about mixed folks.

You folks are naive if you think "race" isn't an issue, even in this day and age. That's like thinking homophobic and biphobic folks don't exist because the government passed laws implying that it's okay, that it's fine.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

The question about race needs to come off of every application or paperwork that now has one.
Period.

Why do we need to be concerned with skin color? Why is this even a question?

Do we group people by eye color?

Hair color can change with the wind so we wont even go there.


I'll say it again.

You are naive if you think "race" is not an issue, even in this day and age. That's like thinking homophobia and biphobia does not exist just because the government passed laws implying that it's okay, that it's fine.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:01 AM
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a reply to: BomSquad

Exactly.

Why is this even a question being asked anymore?



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: Necrobile

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII
You seem to be living in a fantasy land where you think everybody is a lovey-dovey liberal who loves mass immigration and wants everything to be free.


Wow, that's a stretch that even Stretch Armstrong would be envious of.


Naive. Many people are still racist, sexist, homophobic, classist etc.

We are not living in liberal wonderland, for crying out loud!



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII
Why is this an issue with you?

No no dont pretend its everybody and not just you since the responses you are getting to your OP proves that most do not care about it.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:04 AM
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originally posted by: AnakinWayneII
You folks are naive if you think "race" isn't an issue, even in this day and age. That's like thinking homophobic and biphobic folks don't exist because the government passed laws implying that it's okay, that it's fine.


You really are a special kind of, well, I best not say it, this isn't the mud pit.

I'm a mixed race person with brown skin who grew up in a racist town where the KKK marched the streets in the 70's still. I know what it was like to have my race be an issue, and I've also lived for 40 years and have also seen how the issues regarding the topic have improved. It's not perfect yet, and lately it seems to be getting worse thanks to dem's, but it's still slowly moving towards progress.

So, enlighten me as to what you're trying to get at, since I'm just a stupid brown guy who doesn't understand issues regarding race.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:04 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

It shouldn't matter, because which race you check on the page shouldn't impart any benefit or harm.

In the US, the only one I think should matter is whether someone qualifies as belonging to a Native American / First People tribe.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

What a silly question. Today, people get to be gender fluid. One day, male, the next day female, the next day........whatever AND its a crime against PC not to use their chosen pronoun, like hix or shem or whatever.

So of course people can be race fluid. Yesterday, I was a Viking, today, I am Lipan Apache!



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:06 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII




You seem to be living in a fantasy land where you think everybody is a lovey-dovey liberal who loves mass immigration and wants everything to be free.


You seem to have immigration and race mixed up because to hear the tale from the right the immigration issue has nothing to do with race.
Obviously it does and always has.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:06 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AnakinWayneII
Why is this an issue with you?

No no dont pretend its everybody and not just you since the responses you are getting to your OP proves that most do not care about it.


Look at it this way - it's similar to me asking whether we should ban "sex changes".



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: Necrobile




So, enlighten me as to what you're trying to get at, since I'm just a stupid brown guy who doesn't understand issues regarding race.


I laugh at questions like the OP, I say do it. DNA test everyone, all they will find out is that we are ALL mixed!
everyone!



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
You seem to have immigration and race mixed up because to hear the tale from the right the immigration issue has nothing to do with race.
Obviously it does and always has.


Now that's not true as well, I believe we need stronger immigration control and I for one support the wall. Am I racist against my own kind?? Am I a "Tio Tom"?? You'd be surprised how many hispanic people actually support this stuff.



posted on Sep, 13 2019 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: Necrobile

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII
You folks are naive if you think "race" isn't an issue, even in this day and age. That's like thinking homophobic and biphobic folks don't exist because the government passed laws implying that it's okay, that it's fine.


You really are a special kind of, well, I best not say it, this isn't the mud pit.

I'm a mixed race person with brown skin who grew up in a racist town where the KKK marched the streets in the 70's still. I know what it was like to have my race be an issue, and I've also lived for 40 years and have also seen how the issues regarding the topic have improved. It's not perfect yet, and lately it seems to be getting worse thanks to dem's, but it's still slowly moving towards progress.

So, enlighten me as to what you're trying to get at, since I'm just a stupid brown guy who doesn't understand issues regarding race.


Okay, point taken.

As I said above, it's similar to asking whether "sex changes" should be banned. Many discussions have been had over this - why does this make it any different?




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