UK civil war?

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: DaisyRainbow

These lot are so hypocritical, its unbelievable. They March to shut down free speech and democracy, then March again to uphold democracy!

The strange thing is they don't even recognise their own hypocricy!

Honey, hypocrisy has gone viral, globally, apparently.

Researchers are trying to trace it's origins, and they seemed to have tracked it down to Washington DC, January 2016.
Possible immunizations might be available towards the end of 2020.

Fingers crossed!

originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Didn’t look like many people?
Is it that serious?

Doesn't look like a big ice berg.. we won't sink..

Brexit or globalismn. I choose freedom..

ie Brexit.

I am just asking
It’s not an iceberg, it’s a few hundred people
Sounds like hyperbole, I am just asking

Civil war, really?

a reply to: DaisyRainbow

Thing is there is seldom real change without blood.

We should slaughter every last one of the politicians, aristocracy, landed gentry, lords, royals and their banker masters if truth be told.

Then Brexit might have a chance at real progress, as opposed to swapping out one shower of bastards for another ruling set with proven draconian track records.

The political establishment and ruling class of this nation has us on our arse, cutting the head off that Chicken would be a small mercy for the rest of the people on this island.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Well, it's not miners, steelworkers, teachers and trade unions we are after these days, it's anyone who is poor, the disabled and the immigrants.

Nobody has stolen any milk yet off millions of school weans but give Boris time, he's not in that long.

originally posted by: Cropper

originally posted by: justwokeup

Dogs, helicopters, mounted police and sectarian violence. Sounds like football in the 80s.

That's the only time you would see some serious kind of civil unrest in this country, if their beloved football was to be taken away.

Unlike the Rugby supporters in Cardiiff today. Then again we were playing Ireland.

www.walesonline.co.uk...

a reply to: Identified

How about income tax checks???

Thats if you are after real monies and proper leaches.

Oh, wait, canny touch that mob, after all they are entrenched in Westminster and the greater part of the financial district of Old London Town.

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: DaisyRainbow

These lot are so hypocritical, its unbelievable. They March to shut down free speech and democracy, then March again to uphold democracy!

The strange thing is they don't even recognise their own hypocricy!

Honey, hypocrisy has gone viral, globally, apparently.

Researchers are trying to trace it's origins, and they seemed to have tracked it down to Washington DC, January 2016.
Possible immunizations might be available towards the end of 2020.

Fingers crossed!

Researchers are trying to trace it's origins, and they seemed to have tracked it down to Washington DC, January 2016

Source the research.

originally posted by: angelchemuel
Can somebody explain to me why they keep chanting "stop the coup" please? Surely it is they that are trying to create a 'coup' by trying to stop democratic process?

Also had to laugh at the last bit of clip in the OP with the woman singing the Welsh National anthem....Wales voted by a huge majority to leave!!!

You have to laugh at the irony of it........Crowds protesting for democracy,

While trying to stop 'real' democracy by not letting the democratic vote to

be carried out. /smh...... you couldn't make it up!!

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: ForteanOrg

Oh, I see so you prefer a UN/EU un representative governance?

Brilliant, we overcame that in the West a couple hundred years ago

No, I'd prefer no government, state or nation at all, and humanity living in peace as one. But one evening of reading stuff on this forum soon teaches one that that might be a bit much to expect. So, the next best thing, at least as I see it, is to be part of a strong union of nations, willing to offer some of their sovereignty to improve the situation for all. Scotland and Ireland agree with me here. As do most young people in the UK. As do almost all Londoners. As does almost all of British intelligentsia.

But of course, it is a MUCH better idea to silence any debate by shutting down parliament..

a reply to: ForteanOrg

Consider the people who voted for Brexit the majority of such being over the age of 50?

90% of the silly sods will be dead long before the UK reaps any miracles form our departure from the EU.

Especially if they require the assistance of whatever remains of our NHS a few decades down the line.

Peace would be good all the same but the price of Hard Brexit will be the break up of the United Kingdom.

This is a relitavely small crowd of anti-democratic, hypocrtical, fascist wannabe's.
They are the real scum of our society here in the UK.
Hopefully their stench can be removed from the area once they are gone.

reading your headlines that amount of police presence sounds like a liverpool man united game reply to: DaisyRainbow

a reply to: UKTruth

But they live here, how would you have "their stench" removed?

They are not going to change their minds, the division is 48% palpable, should we remove that stench also?

originally posted by: ForteanOrg

But of course, it is a MUCH better idea to silence any debate by shutting down parliament..

Silence any debate??? THREE BLOODY YEARS OF DEBATE and STILL at square one

The protesters are sore losers who don't understand the meaning of democracy,

they are working against democracy and don't even realise it.

And they call those who want to leave stupid.....

a reply to: eletheia

Do you think it could end up in violence? There have already been counter protests with cops separating both sides, I voted remain but accept the referendum outcome, leave means leave 😕

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
For any Britons who recall the 1970s --

How does the tension compare to then? I've heard there was a lot of tension back then, Scargill, Thatcher, and all that.

Cheers

No were near as tense and you are talking about the 1980's not the 70's they were very different decades.

In the 1970's there was a lot of infiltration of the union's by communist element's funded by the soviet union.

A coup plot was arranged with the backing and promise of support by the CIA, the people behind this coup plot included such figures as Mountbatten the real head of the royal family (the queen was the figurehead but Mountbatten was perhaps more powerful) and he was going to be installed as a fake prime minister by the CIA backed military coup that was going to take place in which the Labour party then in power was going to be illegally arrested but in the event they were able to use other more covert tactics to bring down the Labour government of the time.
The household cavalry had been armed and was ready to move in and seize parliament, remember the British Military and it's officers do not swear an oath of allegiance to parliament but to the monarch, though the CIA did give there TACIT backing and perhaps more the actual orchestration behind it was the Tory party whom had not won the election and were willing to play foul to get what they wanted.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

By the 1980's Margarette Thatcher whom had won the election on the feminist vote rather than the right or left wing vote was in her first term and public opinion had turned very badly against her with the majority of the public by that juncture wanting her out but then the Military Junta in charge of Argentina launched a surprise invasion of the Falkland Islands and with the subsequent defeat and retaking of our sovereign territory from an invading nation she then rode a wave of national pride to another election victory which was coupled by a turn around in the markets that was all down to Asia having an upturn that then spread throughout the world and which the Tory's were only too happy to claim the credit for as it sparked new jobs in our own economy but was in fact not down to there policy's at all (though Regan may more rightly lay some claim to at least a sizable chunk of the credit) - but as the old saying goes sheep will be sheep so the electorate believed the hype as always, meanwhile as the economy's of the west - all the western nations (so once again nothing to do with Thatcherite policy's) - rebounded the soviet union's economy which was in a shambles and overburdened by military overspending did not, the people there had enough of the suffering, the tyrannical police state in which they lived and the dreadful conditions that were as bad as the third world and so that led to the despotic reign of communism finally coming to an end but mainly thanks' to Gorbachev whom despite being a communist himself had a far more democratic vision of socialism in mind than the failed and oppressive soviet model.

The big difference is the 1970's and the 1980's were both mired by strikes but the 1970's strikes were often led by militant communist factions that had hijacked the union movement while those in the 1980's were more down to people fighting to save a way of life from being destroyed by Thatcher's governments' policy's and the sell off of publicly owned company's and utility's.

It is difficult to compare to the two decades, they were ideologically quite different.

Since the 1980's (the first decade in which children in the UK earned less than there parent's generation) our real wages have not gone up except for white colour and managerial roles were those wages have spiralled to excess.

I could go on and on and on but it is a very complex subject but you will be hard pressed to find an unbiased opinion on the matter.

originally posted by: DaisyRainbow
a reply to: eletheia

Do you think it could end up in violence? There have already been counter protests with cops separating both sides, I voted remain but accept the referendum outcome, leave means leave 😕

There could be some......but probably not the militant leavers who only protest

and make a lot of noise (as someone on one of these threads mentioned "empty

vessels make the most noise)

If there is any violence it will come from the usual suspects...... those of a

violent leaning who join any crowds just to stir things up.

a reply to: DaisyRainbow

Its the 320,000 poor souls in Great Britain in a similar predicament to this poor fellow that should be protesting.



Then again kind of hard to stand up without a roof over your head or food in the belly.

What happens if they all march on Westminster, will "They" shoot them?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: UKTruth

But they live here, how would you have "their stench" removed?

They are not going to change their minds, the division is 48% palpable, should we remove that stench also?

Sure, if we can.
Would be great to revoke citizenships and pack you all off to mainland Europe as refugees.
Alas, I don't think it will be possible.

a reply to: UKTruth

How?

Can that be done peaceably with referendums that will most lightly signal the departure of Scotland and Ireland from the United Kingdom?

Not much left to be united about after that.

What happens to the proportion of the North of England that also quite possibly will wish to depart?

Is Westminster just going to shake our hands and let us walk off into the sunset?