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UK civil war?

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posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: ForteanOrg

I think there is many a shaking of heads all over the nation, not just in Scotland.


Yes, indeed.

The Brexit vote is mostly a vote against change. It is based on fear. The remain vote is mostly a vote in favour of change. It is based on hope. Hence younger people and smarter people have voted 'remain'. They see that being part of the EU guarantees continuous positive change: it is the track record of the EU that convinced them, not the fear-mongering of older right-wing folks that want to go back in time and re-establish the long dead Victorian empire.

Brexiteers are often typical Geoff and Judy types that sit in a pub on a Sunday afternoon, discussing the nature of foreigners and their disgust for them. The more they paint a black picture of others, the better they look themselves. They have a strong opinion and they are, of course, 'right, as anybody that has half a brain can see'. And they are right: anybody that has half a brain can see that, but those of us with fully functioning brains find that rather hard. Especially when we note that these foreigners don't even live in the hamlet of Ilfreycombenshire where that pub sits. Nor for 20 miles around.

And with the same simple logic that reduces the complexity of an atomic bomb to that of a firecracker, they were given a chance to vote: remain or leave? Given that they can't believe that it migh be the British themselves that are the root cause for whatever real or imagined problems they have with foreigners, it MUST be the EU, and given the simple choice "against or for" they voted against. Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt.

But there you have it, I can't do much about it either. So, yes, perhaps the best thing to do is simply wait. Leaving the EU is against what the majority of the younger people want, and they will be in charge 10 years from now. I would not be surprised, if I'm still around by then, to see the UK re-enter the EU.

Until then: indeed!
edit on 1-9-2019 by ForteanOrg because: he had an opininon.




posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Don't worry, there will be peace once the UK fully accepts sharia law.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: funbobby
a reply to: DaisyRainbow

A civil war fought with rocks and sticks.


Knives, bats, improvised bombs, never mind the firearms already held by Irish terrorists and the tonne of AK's and such like here from the eastern Europeans.
If it went tits up in the UK if would be brutal...its easy psychologically to shoot someone at a distance, takes a special kind of #ed up to plunge blades into fellow humans.
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posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: funbobby
A civil war fought with rocks and sticks.

My guess is that the fantasy weapon is "national strike", a powerful weapon in European countries which have experienced hardline socialism. I've seen Twitter bandy the phrase around. I don't think it could muster the popular support.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: funbobby

Don't get me wrong, if I may coin a term I am a 'Culturist' not a racist, I believe British culture has a lot of problems inherent in itself but the class system is the most primal even of these, still I also believe it is among the best cultures ever to grace this planet and have no love for Shariah or Islam, at the same time I have no wish or inclination to persecute Islamic believers but shall never allow there shariah to be placed over me or mine, arranged marriage is disgusting and child marriage even more so, the problem there is incompatibility of culture and belief's with the majority of the Islamic world being century's behind the rest of the world, they do not tolerate of other belief's etc.

So like I say do not get me wrong but just as I will not tolerate Shariah law I shall also not tolerate football hooligan moron's with ultra right wing attitudes since both sides of that particular divide are literally as bad as one another.

Haters are going to hate it's all they have to live for.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: DaisyRainbow

Don't know about that blade situation these days, meaning half of those wee bastards that carry such will stick it in you soon as look at you without even batting an eyelid.

With the other half, carrying around the idiot wands because of they are scared and for protection.

Different mentality with weans and blades these days, don't help that a significant proportion live in abject poverty with mass unemployment and feck all to do all day but fight and stab one another for fun.

They're not special kind of persons, but they are kind of #ed up by design.
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posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Class war not race war.


Colour, race, creed, religious and sexual orientation, are simply tools "They" use to promoted division and keep us apart.

Haters are going to hate because conditioned to do so i suppose.

I mean what else to they have or even know???


(post by funbobby removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: funbobby

Yes and outside a funeral in Govanhill no less.


Another woman got her throat cut in her own flat in front of her partner and six-year-old daughter around 300 meters away in an unrelated incident.

That's if you're talking about what happened in Glasgow at the weekend.

Mad riots in Govan as well apparently about an Irish march, Polis 100 strong riot wagons and dogs all over the place.

Been a bit bonkers up here, to be honest.
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posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: funbobby
a reply to: DaisyRainbow

Muslims there seem to prefer it, didn't one of them go on a stabbing spree like yesterday?


No that was here in France.

Link : www.france24.com...
edit on 1-9-2019 by Lagomorphe because: Link added



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

It sounds like you already have to choose your words carefully, when it gets to the point where you feel the need to speak up to try to stop it, won't you just be labeled a "ultra right wing" speech criminal and arrested?
First they came for the soccer hooligans...



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: funbobby

Naw mate, the only law that applies here is the Law of The Land.

The people who choose to follow the judgments and decrees of Sharia Law courts do so of there own conviction.

There are other religious courts in operation in the UK by the way, so its not only Sharia Law thats doing the rounds.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

It seems efforts to control people's access to or carry of pointy things have failed or backfired.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe

It's a real nightmare going on over there.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: funbobby

Its Glasgow pal, as unfortunate as the case may be, some idiots are always going to carry idiot wands around these here parts, its a culture thing.


They actually managed to put a dent in it for a while but now with all the austerity back, closures and/or lack of funding for just about everything and anything that gave our young kids and adults something to do, the weans are just back to gang fighting and stabby stabby really.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: funbobby
a reply to: Lagomorphe

It's a real nightmare going on over there.


It’s not as bad as some media like to portray it.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Democacy is allowing nations that remained to stay in Europe being allowed to stay. Ie Scotland and N.I



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Democacy is allowing nations that remained to stay in Europe being allowed to stay. Ie Scotland and N.I


Scotland voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. Then the United Kingdom including Scots voters voted majority to Leave the EU.

There is a demonstrated majority in Scotland for both staying in the UK and the EU.

The proposition that Scotlands people now wants to leave the UK to stand on its own or beg to join the EU as a tiny new applicant is far from clear. I think it unlikely.

At some point the SNP will get another ref and probably lose it again. Scots that like being British, that see it as core identity, will still like it and still vote for it. However if the SNP do win it Scotland will leave. As the UK should have left EU by now.

That's democracy.



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: justwokeup

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Democacy is allowing nations that remained to stay in Europe being allowed to stay. Ie Scotland and N.I


Scotland voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. Then the United Kingdom including Scots voters voted majority to Leave the EU.

There is a demonstrated majority in Scotland for both staying in the UK and the EU.


Actually you're wrong on the latter point, there's a demonstrated majority for remaining in the EU.
edit on 1/9/19 by djz3ro because: I accidently wrote leaving the EU, that's what I get for posting as I try to get the kids to sleep....



posted on Sep, 1 2019 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: justwokeup

I hope the Scottish and Irish UK people choose to run as the bad boys of the region, front it, take whatever # it throws us, be proud to be independent together, be exited and run together with it...I voted remain...but I get it...and I like it as an "in yer face" to the world thing, i lost the vote but now i embrace it 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧







 
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