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originally posted by: djz3ro
originally posted by: justwokeup
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
Democacy is allowing nations that remained to stay in Europe being allowed to stay. Ie Scotland and N.I
Scotland voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. Then the United Kingdom including Scots voters voted majority to Leave the EU.
There is a demonstrated majority in Scotland for both staying in the UK and the EU.
Actually you're wrong on the latter point, there's a demonstrated majority for leaving the EU.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: justwokeup
Democracy is when the voice of nations is heard. As I said two nations within the UK voted to stay in Europe. A voice that through your reply would prefer to remain unheard. That is not democracy.
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: justwokeup
Democracy is when the voice of nations is heard. As I said two nations within the UK voted to stay in Europe. A voice that through your reply would prefer to remain unheard. That is not democracy.
We are the U.K. the united kingdom of four nations
originally posted by: ForteanOrg
The Brexit vote is mostly a vote against change.
It is based on fear.
The remain vote is mostly a vote in favour of change. It is based on hope. Hence younger people and smarter people have voted 'remain'. They see that being part of the EU guarantees continuous positive change: it is the track record of the EU that convinced them, not the fear-mongering of older right-wing folks that want to go back in time and re-establish the long dead Victorian empire.
Brexiteers are often typical Geoff and Judy types that sit in a pub on a Sunday afternoon, discussing the nature of foreigners and their disgust for them. The more they paint a black picture of others, the better they look themselves. They have a strong opinion and they are, of course, 'right, as anybody that has half a brain can see'. And they are right: anybody that has half a brain can see that, but those of us with fully functioning brains find that rather hard. Especially when we note that these foreigners don't even live in the hamlet of Ilfreycombenshire where that pub sits. Nor for 20 miles around.
And with the same simple logic that reduces the complexity of an atomic bomb to that of a firecracker, they were given a chance to vote: remain or leave? Given that they can't believe that it migh be the British themselves that are the root cause for whatever real or imagined problems they have with foreigners, it MUST be the EU, and given the simple choice "against or for" they voted against. Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt.
perhaps the best thing to do is simply wait. Leaving the EU is against what the majority of the younger people want, and they will be in charge 10 years from now. I would not be surprised, if I'm still around by then, to see the UK re-enter the EU.
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: ForteanOrg
The Brexit vote is mostly a vote against change.
Really?.....or simply supposition on your part. When were you last in the UK?
It is based on fear.
Fear of WHAT?..... Not against change, it is because we want change we are
leaving.
The remain vote is mostly a vote in favour of change. It is based on hope. Hence younger people and smarter people have voted 'remain'. They see that being part of the EU guarantees continuous positive change: it is the track record of the EU that convinced them, not the fear-mongering of older right-wing folks that want to go back in time and re-establish the long dead Victorian empire.
WRONG, remain vote is a status quo..... It is the leave vote in favour of change.
Younger is not always smarter, they have no life's experience, and very few are
remotely interested in the political scene, I can think of at least half a dozen
who intended to vote but voting was going to encroach on their social lives......
empty headed, not so smart!!
(I see the German hard right are making inroads)
Brexiteers are often typical Geoff and Judy types that sit in a pub on a Sunday afternoon, discussing the nature of foreigners and their disgust for them. The more they paint a black picture of others, the better they look themselves. They have a strong opinion and they are, of course, 'right, as anybody that has half a brain can see'. And they are right: anybody that has half a brain can see that, but those of us with fully functioning brains find that rather hard. Especially when we note that these foreigners don't even live in the hamlet of Ilfreycombenshire where that pub sits. Nor for 20 miles around.
And with the same simple logic that reduces the complexity of an atomic bomb to that of a firecracker, they were given a chance to vote: remain or leave? Given that they can't believe that it migh be the British themselves that are the root cause for whatever real or imagined problems they have with foreigners, it MUST be the EU, and given the simple choice "against or for" they voted against. Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt.
Full marks for your vivid imagination of the people of the UK but I personally
know of no Geofs and Judys living the lives you describe, along with fear,
anxiety and doubt./smh.
perhaps the best thing to do is simply wait. Leaving the EU is against what the majority of the younger people want, and they will be in charge 10 years from now. I would not be surprised, if I'm still around by then, to see the UK re-enter the EU.
Much supposition on your part about what the majority of younger people want
makes me wonder just how many you actually know?
And yes in ten years time they may be in charge ...... but they will be ten years
wiser too, so no chance of re entering the EU, ( IF IT STILL EXISTS)
Thanks for the laughs!!!!
originally posted by: Lagomorphe
It’s going to be a bloody awful mess Eletheia and you know it.
And why do you have to SCREAM certain words?s
special importance, value, or prominence given to something.
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: Lagomorphe
It’s going to be a bloody awful mess Eletheia and you know it.
Well you can't make an omlette without breaking eggs! and papering over cracks
doesn't make for a good job.
And why do you have to SCREAM certain words?s
Emphasis
special importance, value, or prominence given to something.
I type as I speak?
originally posted by: DaisyRainbow
Thanks for the replies 😍
Has anyone seen this, I know different reasons but tensions seem to rising, roll on winter, we only riot when its warm 😂
www.bbc.co.uk... 😟
Riot police, mounted officers, a helicopter and dog units were called in following an Irish Unity march and counter protest in Glasgow