Autopsy Finds Broken Bones in Jeffrey Epstein’s Neck, Deepening Questions Around His Death

a reply to: Boadicea

You are exactly correct!!!

Rope is made of cotton fibers. Soft fluffy little pieces of cotton that couldn't make something strong like a rope.
Thanks for the example its perfect.

But now someone will say I said he had a rope or made a rope out of toilet paper or cotton swabs or something like that.

originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: Xabi87

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: mysterioustranger

They have said over and over there were no cameras covering any cells. They monitor the hallways outside the cells.

Who is they? Show us a source and then we can agree that there were no CCTV.

Jeffrey Epstein's death may never be conclusively determined, because we're told standard practice in the area where he was detained is that cameras do not point inside cells.

www.tmz.com...

Jeffrey Epstein 'had no cameras in his cell to catch moment he hanged himswww.mirror.co.uk...'

Is that good enough for you?
Because there are like pages and pages of this same information from different news sites and such.

The place obviously has some serious security and surveillance flaws. What better place to put the highest profile/highest risk detainee we've seen in more than a decade? Better yet, let's put Dumb and Dumber on nightwatch!
Nothing fishy here, right?

What if:

So he made or used something to get around his neck. Then he tied one end somehow to the pole on the top bunk, and the other end around his neck. Climbed to the top bunk squatted (like in the fetal position). Then jumped off holding his legs. (still in the fetal position.) That might would have snapped his neck.

a reply to: underpass61

Oh there is plenty fishy here and f'd up too.
This should never have happened.
Those women are left without justice.
Others who could be guilty go unpunished.
Its all a filthy mess.

a reply to: Tekaran

What pole of the top bunk?

Aren't they all concrete slabs nowadays?

I believe there are no polls or bars or springs. Just concrete and a thin mattress. Oh and paper sheets.

Just throwing this out there , If he was killed by someone like the Clinton's for example or anyone in power . Wouldn't they also cover up the Autopsy reports ?

a reply to: Gargoyle91

Well, sure. But it is a lot easier to just pay someone
to keep quiet, or look the other way.

What is more important is determining the truth about Bill Clinton.

Did Bill visit Epstein's island??

As President Trump said, we need to know.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The Ghost of David Carradine would like a word.

Touche'.

And just to add, one Dr. Michael Baden performed an autopsy on Carradine for his family as well.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Gargoyle91

Well, sure. But it is a lot easier to just pay someone
to keep quiet, or look the other way.

What is more important is determining the truth about Bill Clinton.

Did Bill visit Epstein's island??

As President Trump said, we need to know.

"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"
...some famous person

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: underpass61

Oh there is plenty fishy here and f'd up too.
This should never have happened.
Those women are left without justice.
Others who could be guilty go unpunished.
Its all a filthy mess.

I hear ya, it really sucks when that happens!

originally posted by: Gargoyle91
Just throwing this out there , If he was killed by someone like the Clinton's for example or anyone in power . Wouldn't they also cover up the Autopsy reports ?

Well, yeah. We are all just spinning our wheels here. But it’s fun ain’t it?

We will never know the full truth. I think that’s the most frustrating part...

originally posted by: Boadicea
Touche'.

Close, but everyone calls me Douché.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Gargoyle91

Well, sure. But it is a lot easier to just pay someone
to keep quiet, or look the other way.

What is more important is determining the truth about Bill Clinton.

Did Bill visit Epstein's island??

As President Trump said, we need to know.

Well...we know Epstein had a large painting of Bill Clinton hanging in his office...sooo..it seems they were bosom buddies.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Boadicea

Thanks for the example its perfect.

Quite welcome. This isn't rocket science. Just basic physics.

Rope is made of strands of material, like wire or fabric, that are each individually twisted in one direction, and then twisted or braided together in the opposite direction. The beauty of rope is that materials which are actually quite weak on their own, can be manipulated to be quite strong. As the researchers stated in an article by Science News, it is a testament to the power of geometry.

Roped In

But now someone will say I said he had a rope or made a rope out of toilet paper or cotton swabs or something like that.

C'est la vie, eh? I'm agreeing in principle... but I don't even think Epstein killed himself.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: HalWesten

No one is saying he fell from anywhere.
He did this by self strangulation by leaning forward on 67 year old bones.

I didn't say he fell, I said the article that was referenced didn't mention how far those men fell when they hung themselves.

A friend of my son hung himself when they were in high school. He did it with a belt or a tie, I forget now, in his closet. Closet rods are not that strong but somehow he accomplished it.

a reply to: IAMTAT

bosom buddies

Henry or Kip?

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Well...we know Epstein had a large painting of Bill Clinton hanging in his office...sooo..it seems they were bosom buddies.

Or that Epstein thought Bill Clinton was a good target for a joke and not worthy of any respect.

The fact that that painting was there does not tell us the reasons why it was there.

So who was the dumb one to put such figure in a cell with no cameras and apparently so lame security?
Couldn't Trump take care of it? Or perhaps he wanted to see him dead as much as Clintons did.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"
...some famous person

Right?

He had some paper around his neck and he is dead now,
what difference does it make?

a reply to: ArMaP

apparently Thai child molesters - particularly the dealers which sometimes house the children involved - are permanently /often (disguised as) trans to avoid later recognitions . From Stacy Dooley documentary . Even a hood is enough , masks etc .
One pedophile Epstein would have been employing a range of molestering techniques . Pictures like the one of Clinton remind us of what Alefantis was putting onto twitter . Murder scenes etc . serve to dissuade victims from talking